My old yellow hemicuda ragtop for sale???

[njsteve]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Plymouth-...1QQcmdZViewItem (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Plymouth-Barracuda-HEMI-CUDA-WORLDS-MOST-FAMOUS-1971-Plymouth-Hemi-Cuda-Convertible_W0QQitemZ150196489737QQihZ005QQcategor yZ6409QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)

It says Bill Wiemann owns it. I thought someone else in AZ has it. Am I wrong?

Hey, I think I still have an extra one of the original broadcast sheets from that car (it had 4 of them, if I recall correctly) Maybe I should put that on ebay. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Nice opening bid minimum of $2,700,000. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif

[rich p]

Steve If you want to give me a call I can hook you up with Bill. NO Charge http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif Im sure he would want another Buildsheet if your passing it on.. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[njsteve]

Doesn't Mr. C own this car or did it trade hands? I would imagine whoever buys it may want the 6 inch thick series of photo album pages I still have on the car, before during and after. I was a nice car to start with and I photographed as much as I could, way back when, in order to document where everything was for future generations.

It's nice to see my work held up after all these years even if it was a "driver-restoration" at the time. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/burnout.gif

Here's a "before" shot:

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b216/nk15268/cudasnow-1.jpg

She really was a bear to drive to work in the snow. Those studded snow tires really helped. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[quick-bowtie]

Man that pics just kills me.. moving snow from around the Cuda so you could probaby take it for a spin...lol If you only had that crystal ball that said how much that car would be worth today!

Do you remember what you sold it for back then?

I heard Bill bought the car from Mr.C awhile back.

[Mr70]

Nice pic Steve..What year was that taken?

[njsteve]

[ QUOTE ]
Man that pics just kills me.. moving snow from around the Cuda so you could probaby take it for a spin...lol If you only had that crystal ball that said how much that car would be worth today!

Do you remember what you sold it for back then?

I heard Bill bought the car from Mr.C awhile back.

[/ QUOTE ]

I sold it for a record price back in '87. It went for .02% of the current ebay price. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif

That photo was from Superbowl weekend back in January, 1986.

[Charley Lillard]

Mr.C....I hadn't heard him called that before...Pretty funny.

[rich p]

Its been out of Mr C's collection since July. I should know since I put it together plus a Hemi Challenger convert.
I think Bill has close to a half dozen Hemi e-body converts at this moment. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

What would the world do without richP?

[Xplantdad]

[ QUOTE ]
Its been out of Mr C's collection since July. I should know since I put it together plus a Hemi Challenger convert.
I think Bill has close to a half dozen Hemi e-body converts at this moment. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

They were all on display at Pavillions a few months back. Unfortunately I wasn't there that day...

[rich p]

I was thinking the same about you Marlin !! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif
I love you too ..

[ssl78]

Wow it must be pick on Rich P month. I would think Rich has been involved in more high end car deals than any body else. Its not every one that can put those kind of things together. What a experience it would have been to be part of some of those deals. I believe he has made a lot of people happy both buyer and sellers.

[njsteve]

It is nice to see that there is still a market out there for the big dollar cars. Maybe the rumors of the collector car market prices dropping is just a conspiracy created by the big dollar collectors to get the prices down so they can come back in and scoop them all up at bargain basement prices...

Just like Orange Juice and Pork Belly Futures. Hey, I saw Eddie Murphy and Dan Akroyd in Trading Places, I know how the market works. It's those darn Duke brothers at it again.

Hey, Rich you want to broker my photo album and broadcast sheet? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif Interesting trades accepted!

[rich p]

Hey John !! Thanks for the kind words. It's been a fun trip for me doing this when everybody said I couldn't do this job !!
Now everybody is brokering cars and have taken a lot of people(victims) for a lot of money. I have tried to specialize in selling only some of the Best pedigree cars and only pedigree cars since I have started.
Hey John, I enjoy hanging with all the guys in Chicago when I'm in town and have said that you guys are straight up.( Your pizza still S*^ks)

Steve I'm sorry I don't get involved with bargaining for buildsheets,fender tags, etc. I feel they belonged with the car when it was first sold. I see guys doing this a lot and I will stop while I'm ahead. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif Sorry ! I'm sure you can get a hold of him.

Im proud to say I have NO skeletons in my closet http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

I have tried to bring the Best in the SuperCar world to this website http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

For Most of you ! Have a great and safe Holiday.. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/headbang.gif

[njsteve]

Looks like the car has 2 bids now!

Rich, that extra broadacst was one I found in my bookcase where I used to store car info, 10 years after the car left. If I recall correctly the car had broadcasts located all over it: 4 or more, that went with the car to Otis. It even had a unique Assembly Line Damage Report I found under the carpet that showed the front end had been damaged somehow at the plant. There were "X"s handwritten on all the front panels in the diagram. Everything I had at the time went with the car. I hope all that stuff is still with the car since I never made any copies of anything back then.

As for photo albums. I think I am like a lot of people who keep that personal material since they also contain a lot of images of family in them. When Mr. C was considering buying the car several years ago he contacted me and I happily scanned and sent him a large number of photos of the car, gratis.

(P.S. I was joking about the brokering comment http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif But I'd imagine you probably run across that for real, quite often in your travels)

And a Gruntled Festivus to you all http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif
Now, lets get back to the Airing of the Grievances and then on to the Feats of Strength.

[flyingn]

amazing.. 2.7 mil. It IS a beautiful car..

[427king]

Is it me being a pessimist,or do big dollar cars like this always get listed [and always bid on at least once and not meet reserve]just to give a seller some price tag and negotiation power to boast to the real venue the car will be sold at whether it be Mecum,BJ, or a private sale. I cant remmeber the last time a big dollar car sold thru ebay or failed to get a bid....its always big $$$ bid[s] ,no reserve met. Maybe ebay should start making people have no reserve auctions like BJ does http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif

[Chateau Slate 66]

Did someone say "Feats of Strength?"

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s30/ajmartinson/211greg23halfincharms.jpg

[rich p]

I still cant over when someone ask for 50K + for someones short block to his car.
I have seen a LOT of HOGS in this hobbie ! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif

Steve I know you wouldnt sell the Broadcast http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
I also had the privalage of putting a little tiny scratch on the bumper when I was trying to park it in a tent. Ask Charlie L: He was standing next to the pole when I tapped it. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[427king]

[ QUOTE ]
I still cant over when someone ask for 50K + for someones short block to his car.
I have seen a LOT of HOGS in this hobbie !

[/ QUOTE ] If you had the shortblock to this car in your garage from when you sold the car,and the current owner wanted it,what would you sell it for since the car was being sold for more than 2,646,000 over what you sold it for ???? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif Do you actually know of someone that asked 50K for a shortblock to a car??If so, what kind of motor was it ??

[rich p]

I have seen Hemi's & ZL1 motors held hostage..

There's Hogs & theres Pigs http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

[P.J.]

Are you kidding? If it was my car and someone had my original born with short block and my car was worth 26000,000. I would think that its worth at least $ 100,000.
The car without its orig motor would be a hell of a lot less
in value.
PJ

[PhilS]

Although I'm skeptical of the bid, there is certainly alot of interest with over 20k hits and 32 hours to go.

[njsteve]

[ QUOTE ]
I also had the privalage of putting a little tiny scratch on the bumper when I was trying to park it in a tent. Ask Charlie L: He was standing next to the pole when I tapped it. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

Rich, here's a story of willpower: At the 1986 Musclecar Nationals I had the car sitting on the open trailer and some doofus walks up and proceeds to pull back and peel down the front rubber bumper edge where it meets the fender, cracking the paint. I almost vapor locked screaming at the guy...and he was one of the workers for the event! He says: "I was only trying to see what was behind it." It took all of my self control to not try to see what was behind his frontal lobes with my tire iron. I think that was the last Musclecar Nationals I participated in. Too much stress. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif

[427king]

[ QUOTE ]
Although I'm skeptical of the bid, there is certainly alot of interest with over 20k hits and 32 hours to go.



[/ QUOTE ] There may be one or two people in the market that would look at this auction and be a serious buyer. The 20000 hits arent from potential buyers,they are from people on holiday vacation wondering why a car is 2.7M and checking back every ten minutes to see if it has a bid

[rich p]

I do NOT agree with you ....

Does the original matter in a ZL1 when everybody who knows these motors were blown up day two ???

Dont get me wrong !! Who doesnt want the original motor in their car. I would bet a good 25% ++ are restamped in the Hemi world and others. Copo's, 429's, hemi's etc..

Dont get me going on re-body's http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif

[427king]

If you call the guy "greedy" who wants 50K for the original motor to a car worth a million dollars ,what do you call the guy wanting a million dollars for the car without the original motor?

[ANDY M]

"Chuck"? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif

[427king]

There are 5000 comedy writers on strike,evidently you crossed the pickett line. I do have to say the car listed is quite a gem,if a car was worth 3M it would certainly be a 71 hemi convert

[njsteve]

[ QUOTE ]
If you call the guy "greedy" who wants 50K for the original motor to a car worth a million dollars ,what do you call the guy wanting a million dollars for the car without the original motor?

[/ QUOTE ]

A Barrett Jackson Consignor http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[rich p]

Just got the call !! Three REAL Bidders on the car... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif

We shall see..

[flyingn]

if this works out.. It may set all kinds of records..

NJSteve. I do npt know the story on this car .. can you link me to your story?? Where ya found it and history? I always love reading about that stuff..

Frank

[CanadianPoncho]

Could this be an Ebaymotors record if it sells?
Todd

[Charley Lillard]

If it sells on Ebay I'll put the Supersnake on Ebay.

[bashton]

[ QUOTE ]
if this works out.. It may set all kinds of records..

NJSteve. I do npt know the story on this car .. can you link me to your story?? Where ya found it and history? I always love reading about that stuff..

Frank

[/ QUOTE ] http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Pick up Colin Comers new book; "Million Dollar Muscle Cars". It has this car on the cover and inside is some neat reading about it. It was also featured in Randy Leffingwells book "American Muscle" when it was part of Otis Chandler collection. Both are MUST HAVE books!

Of course, I am sure we would ALL like to hear more stories from NJSteve, though. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

BA

[bashton]

[ QUOTE ]
If it sells on Ebay I'll put the Supersnake on Ebay.

[/ QUOTE ]

I have a better idea; http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/Can-I-Have-It.gif

[Z-11 396]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
If it sells on Ebay I'll put the Supersnake on Ebay.

[/ QUOTE ]

I have a better idea; http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/Can-I-Have-It.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

+++ Bob +++ NO, you can't have it, now I could make you a good deal on a ole Flat Six car, by the way did anyone see http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif a << Covair >> in the Million $$$ book ??? I didn't think so.. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif..Kasey

[njsteve]

Stories? When I write my book, most of them will come out. Here's a teaser. Imagine hitting a record breaking ice/snow storm (Superbowl weekend 1986) on the way back from buying the car and seeing this unfold in front of you, mile after mile. It was a complete white out and these guys still felt invincible at 65 mph...until they tried to change lanes, take a curve, stop, or take an exit ramp. I felt like Mel Gibson in the original Mad Max...just trying to make it home, running a guantlet of insane truck drivers. There was about 1,000 miles of this:

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b216/nk15268/tripback.jpg

[Born30YrsLate]

[ QUOTE ]
If it sells on Ebay I'll put the Supersnake on Ebay.

[/ QUOTE ]
...starting bid $1 and no reserve?...

[427king]

Is this the same car. http://www.corvettes-musclecars.com/Mopar/71CudaConvertible/index.htm

[Johnny Horsepower]

[ QUOTE ]
What would the world do without richP?

[/ QUOTE ]

Sleep better http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif

Just kidding,,,,I love you Rich. ( I think our sale was a world record at the time?!)

[Jeff H]

Hey Steve, I noticed in your snow picture, the car has a chrome bumper but in the auction now it has the painted bumper. Did that get swapped out by a previous owner before you got the car?

[Johnny Horsepower]

[ QUOTE ]
Hey Steve, I noticed in your snow picture, the car has a chrome bumper but in the auction now it has the painted bumper. Did that get swapped out by a previous owner before you got the car?

[/ QUOTE ]

Nice catch...................I need a mountain dew http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/scholar.gif

[njsteve]

It was originally a chrome bumpered car with a silver grill. It just looked ugly that way, so I changed it.

[quick-bowtie]

Real bids? I would think someone serious about the car would bid more than $100 over the 2.7million opening bid. And five guys have all only bid $100?? Maybe they'll do a deal in private but then why even bid in the first place? call me skeptical I guess?

[rich p]

IT STILL IS !!! Just in case you think you lost some money.

Just kidding,,,,I love you Rich. ( I think our sale was a world record at the time?!)

[/ QUOTE ]

And you slept pretty well after the sale too..

[Born30YrsLate]

...according to the questions being asked in the auction it appears Mr. W will be selling some more cars...
How many of the '71 hemi 'cuda 'verts does he currently have?...

[njsteve]

Just from the photos I see the white 71 export car, the blue 71 four speed car, the yellow 71 car, an orange 70 and the red on red 70 that was the first hemicuda ragtop built (the famous magazine test car), and a purple 70 Challenger convert. So he has the first and last hemi cuda ragtops built!

[rich p]

The TRI-Fecta !! 71 Hemi Cuda-70 Hemi Challenger-70 Hemi Cuda CONVERTIBLES
Very few collectors have owned the Tri-fecta !!

A couple members here still do have or have had the privilege of this..

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif

[Stefano]

Hey speak for yourself, I can't believe I just got out bid http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Didn't some other infamous "Broker" have another Hemi Cuda for sale on ebay a few years ago as well?

[Charley Lillard]

Tuttle ? LOL

[rich p]

Wow King !! Sounds like you need a little couch time..
Little anger built up ??? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif

BW could care less what everybody thinks !! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

[njsteve]

[ QUOTE ]
Is this the same car. http://www.corvettes-musclecars.com/Mopar/71CudaConvertible/index.htm

[/ QUOTE ]

Yes, it is. It is really hard to get a good depiction of that yellow in a photograph. That was when Mr. S had it a few years ago.

[427king]

Is Dr. No going to bid?? Doesnt anyone have a first name in this thread???? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif Great car,im sure someone will grab it. Priceless photo you have of it. I think id sell all the others and keep this one if i was the seller .

[njsteve]

I dunno about Dr. No, but I heard Auric Goldfinger might be interested. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[PhilS]

It would be my choice to keep as well.

[Mr70]

$2,700,600.00 Reserve Not Met.

"If it sells on Ebay I'll put the Supersnake on Ebay."
Crap!... I just wanted to see this happen.

[PPPJJJFFF]

[ QUOTE ]
Real bids? I would think someone serious about the car would bid more than $100 over the 2.7million opening bid. And five guys have all only bid $100?? Maybe they'll do a deal in private but then why even bid in the first place? call me skeptical I guess?

[/ QUOTE ]

I'm skeptical also. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hmmm.gif

Patrick

[427king]

[ QUOTE ]
Wow King !! Sounds like you need a little couch time

[/ QUOTE ] Rich, I just got back from my couch session, i asked my shrink why im always so cynical about ebay car auctions , but always an optomist in other areas. He said i suffered from dual personality disorder,so i told him to bill the "other" guy. Ives always had a problem blaming the other person, its a trait i got from my parents http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[njsteve]

[ QUOTE ]
... its a trait i got from my parents http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

Wow, usually insanity is a hereditary trait you acquire from your children. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Bill Pritchard]

[ QUOTE ]

Wow, usually insanity is a hereditary trait you acquire from your children. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

OK, I don't have any kids.....who can I blame? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[427king]

The joke is that you are saying you blame other people for everything,and then reinforce that statement by proceeding to blame your parents for making you like that, Boy you guys dont get jokes very well.. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif

[Charley Lillard]

[ QUOTE ]
$2,700,600.00 Reserve Not Met.

"If it sells on Ebay I'll put the Supersnake on Ebay."
Crap!... I just wanted to see this happen.

[/ QUOTE ]

Maybe I will put it on during Barrett-Jackson.

[427king]

[ QUOTE ]
Maybe I will put it on during Barrett-Jackson

[/ QUOTE ] Just make sure to list it like the L89. Thats how all rare car auctions should be. The car is available at any time for a fixed price,and if someone wants to make a serious offer and be held to that offer[note emphasis on HELD] they can have that option. How close are we on a sale by the way??

[69hurstSC]

[ QUOTE ]
Stories? When I write my book, most of them will come out. Here's a teaser. Imagine hitting a record breaking ice/snow storm (Superbowl weekend 1986) on the way back from buying the car and seeing this unfold in front of you, mile after mile. It was a complete white out and these guys still felt invincible at 65 mph...until they tried to change lanes, take a curve, stop, or take an exit ramp. I felt like Mel Gibson in the original Mad Max...just trying to make it home, running a guantlet of insane truck drivers. There was about 1,000 miles of this:

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b216/nk15268/tripback.jpg

[/ QUOTE ]

incredible Steve! the day i brought my 69 RR home in 96 was very similar. a crazy snow/ice storm. i remember one time looking out the drivers side window to see my RR on the trailor looking to pass in the passing lane http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif

[njsteve]

It was the scariest road trip of my life. I was going about 25 mph along with all the other car traffic and these trucks whould just scream by at 65 or 70. I guess they thought at 8 feet off the ground they were somehow above the weather inversion layer that was closer to the ground like us car drivers were.

At one point I pulled off the highway into a Holiday Inn to stop for the night. Of course, no vacancy. I go to leave the parking lot and it was sheet ice. All the wheels locked up and my whole rig goes sliding downhill across a 4-way intersection, through a red light. The Good Lord steered me into the only non tree-lined/concrete abutted/cliff edged spot in the area. It turned out to be the gravel parking lot of a bar, threading the needle between two tractor trailers.

I took that as a hint from God that I should stop there and get a drink til the weather cleared. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif

It sure took a while for that darned weather to clear. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[Mr70]

"Maybe I will put it on during Barrett-Jackson."

Excercising the Triple Dog Dare. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

http://quakeragitator.files.wordpress.com/2007/09/double_dog_dareya.jpg