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WILMASBOYL78
01-03-2008, 07:56 AM
Looking for the part number for the NGK plugs you guys recommend for the 1970 L78 motor....saw this once before.
thanks, wilma
Eddie M.
01-03-2008, 08:38 AM
this is what I found in a search
the 5671 is for the 840s, the UR5 is for the 291.
hope this helps
Mr. Chevy
01-03-2008, 08:54 AM
Tom, I run the UR5 in my motor in the Nova, 70 L78 Motor. Thats the correct plug for that motor. They are great!! Really woke the combustion chamber up.. I was using the new AC Delcos and they were junk. I was getting a surge in the RPM range at about 3,500. I put the NGK plugs in and it made a huge difference, much smoother at idle and strong the through RPM range.. I highly recommend them!! You can pick them up at Advanced Auto Parts. Thats were I got mine last summer. I think they were like .95 cents a plug.. Well worth it!!
Rich
Chris396
01-03-2008, 10:42 AM
What about aluminum heads? I'm running NGK's in my iron heads. Can I reuse the same plugs?
DarrenX33
01-03-2008, 04:19 PM
Yeah UR5 rings a bell. NGK only in my cars...
budnate
01-03-2008, 04:56 PM
I ran across this NGK link the other day and saved it
http://www.ngksparkplugs.com/about/index.asp?nav=20000&country=US
WILMASBOYL78
01-03-2008, 05:48 PM
What about the gap...??? that web link shows .060....what do you guys set them at..??
wilma
VintageMusclecar
01-03-2008, 06:09 PM
Tom;
Set them at .035" if the car still has an OE points style distributor.
Eric
WILMASBOYL78
01-03-2008, 06:13 PM
thanks.... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif
VintageMusclecar
01-03-2008, 06:32 PM
Coitenly!
http://www.nndb.com/people/973/000047832/3patetas_curly.jpg
DarrenX33
01-03-2008, 06:41 PM
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Tom;
Set them at .035" if the car still has an OE points style distributor.
Eric
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Hmmm... Hey Moe, does it matter if the innards are Crane or Pertronix? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hmmm.gif
VintageMusclecar
01-03-2008, 07:24 PM
Darren;
IMO, no.
I've personally never found much benefit in fat plug gaps, all they do is work the rest of the ignition components that much harder. I used a Crane Xr-1 conversion on my 496, and with Autolite plugs gapped at .035", it never missed a beat on the dyno.
Eric
ps.
The name's "Curly." http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
DarrenX33
01-03-2008, 07:30 PM
Cool. Sounds like I golden..
Ok, I'll be Larry. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Kim_Howie
01-03-2008, 07:47 PM
I used NGK in my old 427 nova, great plug. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif
Chevy454
01-03-2008, 08:25 PM
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Darren;
IMO, no.
I've personally never found much benefit in fat plug gaps, all they do is work the rest of the ignition components that much harder. I used a Crane Xr-1 conversion on my 496, and with Autolite plugs gapped at .035", it never missed a beat on the dyno.
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If anything, with compression you might need to tighten the gap a tad...or help cheat your power up/down as needed...we've played around with gaps a little in our Camaro, and @ 12.2:1 I wanna say we're ~32? [Lemme check my notebook before anyone takes that as the Gospel! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif]
But as someone above said, switching from our coveted AC plugs to NGK's cleared up a big end stumble, and showed power on the dyno, and we've never looked backed!
666 the legend
01-03-2008, 08:46 PM
NGK is a great plug but..I use the CHEAPY Denso $1.98 plug [gap .35]in my NOVA..[970 HP N/A] and it starts up everytime and havent changed a PLUG since last May..!! is 9.50 ET all day long..at 3,600 lbs..!!
L78steve
01-03-2008, 08:50 PM
Are the iridium plugs worth trying?
666 the legend
01-03-2008, 09:29 PM
I try whatever WORKS...!! as long as you have the RIGHT HEAT RANGE...and it runs GOOD and DEPENDABLE...Thats all that matters to me...
mudjnky
01-03-2008, 09:45 PM
I need to replace the plugs in my Wifes car and after reading this I'll give the NGK's a try. Does anyone know which plug would go in a GM crate engine 454/420HP, iron head? I'm pretty sure that wouldn't be in the NGK catalog.
PeteLeathersac
01-03-2008, 10:19 PM
A couple side notes to the superiority of NGK plugs;
Not sure if the same in the States or not but new offshore produced vehicles coming into Canada sometimes show up with Champions installed as 'original equipment' instead of the actual spec NGK's to save on import taxes!.
I believe they ship the Champ plugs and a few other simple items from here to Japan or wherever the production plant is so a lesser percent of the car is considered produced offshore hence the lesser import taxes.. Of course the Champs run like s**t in many applications and are quickly changed to the spec NGK's by service techs in the know.. This isn't publicised by the manufacturers for obvious reasons also not spread to the dealer level either to keep them from changing them under warranty!.
Also to NGK's credit, they're all I use on the old two-stroke racing snowmachines anymore too.. With mixed or injected oils, Champs and others foul very quickly in comparison to a set of NGK's!.
~ Pete
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif
x Baldwin Motion
01-04-2008, 01:53 AM
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A couple side notes to the superiority of NGK plugs;
Also to NGK's credit, they're all I use on the old two-stroke racing snowmachines anymore too.. With mixed or injected oils, Champs and others foul very quickly in comparison to a set of NGK's!.
~ Pete
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif
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I've also got the NGK's in the outboards, I think the little boat's plugs are three or four years old and it always cranks on half a pull.
Jim69Z
01-04-2008, 07:02 AM
What part no. would be correct for my stock 302 as the ngk weblink does not have all the correct engines listed?
Chevy454
01-04-2008, 05:29 PM
I believe it will be the XR5 (#3332)...1969 Camaro 5.0L (http://www.ngk.com/results_app.asp?AAIA=1034716)
Jim Ferron
01-04-2008, 05:43 PM
I believe NGK plugs and the more expensive Accel u-groove plugs...are the same plug...no?
mudjnky
01-04-2008, 05:44 PM
I think the U-Groove is Nippondenso
DarrenX33
01-04-2008, 06:11 PM
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I believe it will be the XR5 (#3332)...1969 Camaro 5.0L (http://www.ngk.com/results_app.asp?AAIA=1034716)
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Correct as I have them in my 302.
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