View Full Version : Barrett-Jackson lawsuit over the Ramcharger Cuda
Charley Lillard
01-09-2008, 04:31 AM
The Cuda that the Judge said was short saled etc and he chained the car up after the auction... Bill Howell faxed me the exhibit just signed by the Judge..
"Exhibit A.
Upon Review of auction video footage and further consideration of the relevant facts, I, David L. Clabuesch, have concluded that with respect to the January 20,2007 auction of my vehicle-a 1970 Phymouth Hemi-Cuda conducted by Barrett-Jackson that I can no longer pursue any action alleging auction irregularities, including the claim that the car was short hammered while on the auction block. I have also determined that there was no relationship between Barrett-Jackson and the buyer of my vehicle nor was there any conspiracy between Barrett-Jackson and the buyer of my vehicle or any other person, to short hammer the sale of the car. I no longer believe that Barrett-Jackson violated the terms of the consignment agreement in conducting the auction sale or otherwise breached any duties to me as a consignor.
Signed: David L. Clabuesch
1/7/08 "
Charley Lillard
01-09-2008, 04:32 AM
Kinda clear who won that arguement I think...Thanks Billy
Wasn't B/J also going after him for slander for some negative things he was saying about them on the internet afterwards?
Is that settled too?
agtw31
01-09-2008, 04:54 AM
looks like the little fish got swallowed up by the bigger fish
300deluxeL79
01-09-2008, 04:57 AM
and did the 'winning' bidder get the car?
Donutblue
01-09-2008, 04:57 AM
Charley, I'm happy for BJ. Pretty obvious in that writing that Clabuesch put up the white flag and threw his towel in the ring - any info what brought about the surrender at this stage ? I'm sure prior to the lawsuit and many $$$ ago for all parties he must have reviewed that video, NOW he puts the brakes on ?
Does this mean that there is no hanky panky going on at this auction???
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PJ
Hylton
01-09-2008, 05:44 PM
Boy! Must have bruised the ego of the judge to have to make that statement.
1970Bluel78
01-09-2008, 06:12 PM
Written by a Lawyer and signed by someone over matched
quick-bowtie
01-09-2008, 06:28 PM
Does this mean that there is no hanky panky going on at this auction???
We all know Barrett is the MOST HONEST COMPANY IN THE WORLD!! They are true cars guys selling to car guys they're not in it for the money..lol
Power and money will spin anything.
chevelleheart
01-09-2008, 07:18 PM
My Feelings EXACTLY,.........How could it not be fair and above board !! LOL
PeteLeathersac
01-09-2008, 07:50 PM
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Written by a Lawyer and signed by someone over matched
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A perfect 'in a nutshell' statement!.
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~ Pete
John Brown
01-09-2008, 09:09 PM
With the upcoming auction, now is the perfect time to get this thing concluded. It wouldn't do to have it pop up again.
I am always curious when packages like this get tied up so neatly. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hmmm.gif
I will be watching closely at the auction this year and with a hint of suspicion. I am sure we have not heard the end of this.
PJ
JRSully
01-09-2008, 09:30 PM
Probably some back office deal made between the plaintiff and defendant "we'll give you what you wanted for the car and you recant your bashing of BJ" end of story
Les Quam
01-09-2008, 11:24 PM
Very possible they reached a settlement a week or so prior to this years auction and part of the deal was this statement by the plaintiff. I doubt this Judge walks away with nothing and folds this fast, that would be highly unlikely in my opinion. I am sure he carefully considered the merits of his suit before filing. My two cents.
427king
01-10-2008, 12:05 AM
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Probably some back office deal made between the plaintiff and defendant "we'll give you what you wanted for the car and you recant your bashing of BJ" end of story
[/ QUOTE ] So everyones a winner.
HiHorse
01-10-2008, 01:44 AM
Good to hear everything back to normal? fast cars and fast money
L-79 Nova
01-10-2008, 03:00 AM
That nutcase judge from NY that sued the cleaners for 24 million over his lost pants lasted longer than this case. Ron...
olredalert
01-10-2008, 03:05 AM
------Its just my opinion but I think that B/J had this judge by the short hairs. Im not sure why, but its something we dont know about and probably never will..........Bill S
Johnny Horsepower
01-10-2008, 03:21 AM
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Does this mean that there is no hanky panky going on at this auction???
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PJ
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If I recall correctly, this was right after the BS auction of the non car items(ie. rock and roll stuff) I remember clearly having an opinion right then and there. Spanky was pissed that the auction lost momentum. I won't give my opinion here for legal safety but I remember it for a reason.
JOHN
rich p
01-10-2008, 03:28 AM
SHHH Thoses were some good seats there John !
JRSully
01-10-2008, 03:31 AM
If Ramcharger Cuda guy is making a "public" statement as to the status and/or demise of the case, obviously some kind of settlement was reached. I don't think he would do that willingly, especially being a Judge. Cuda guy wants the money he "believed" he was entitled to in a "fair" auction and BJ wants thier good name/status back. BJ has to go on and on and would probably would rather not admit any "guilt", Cuda guy just wants his money and he'll go away, soon to be forgotten. My .02
rich p
01-10-2008, 03:41 AM
I feel he had NOTHING !! NO RESERVE !! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif
People think the sellers are so happy. I see them walking down the ramp PISSED OFF a LOT. Guys think their car is worth a million and it brings a half a million. You should see the look on their faces. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif
Check out the 4 door Hemi car when that went threw. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif
Norm reynolds
01-10-2008, 04:27 AM
I really do not think B/j will be as big as it once was
I know for fact there was a lot of anger and disgust with the whole thing last year
A lot of people lost big money because of the bone head Idea of no reserve
Why transport a car go threw all the B/s and end up selling for much less then you have in to it that is just crazy I know there would be no way I would sell with out a reserve
And I will not be surprise that there will be more lawsuits in the works
I know of more coming only time will tell what the out come will be but for every lawsuit just gives B/J a black eye To make it honest they have to bring back the reserve if not it will be a slow death for B/J each year it will get smaller till one day it will be gone
I know a lot of people that used to go will not be going this year Me I don’t think I will even waste my time watching it on .TV They really shot them self in the foot last year
Last year was so bad I am surprise they are putting on Tv but hey I don’t have to watch
Charley Lillard
01-10-2008, 05:02 AM
Amazing...The market has turned down, Barrett-Jackson is the biggest barometer of that and it is their fault ? Someone sells a car at no reserve, doesn't get what he thought he should and it is their fault ? Was there not enough bidders ? Has there ever been that many registered bidders ? And it is their fault ? The guy with the Cuda made money on the car but bitched because he was sure it was worth more. Does anyone think the same car today will still bring what the guy got for it ? I don't think it will. Yes I think the quality of cars is down because of the no reserve but I applaud them for doing it while it worked. This is a auction. All my life I looked at auctions as a place to maybe get a good deal. Now the sellers should sue because they listed a car at a auction at no reserve and it didn't get them what they would have set their reserve at if they had a reserve ? ARRGH !!!!!!!!
Xplantdad
01-10-2008, 05:07 AM
I agree...people are pissed that the cars sell at too high of a price...people complain when the cars don't sell at a high enough price.... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hmmm.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif
I have it easy...I just go to have fun...it's one of the best car shows around!
kwhizz
01-10-2008, 05:11 AM
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I agree...people are pissed that the cars sell at too high of a price...people complain when the cars don't sell at a high enough price.... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hmmm.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif
I have it easy...I just go to have fun...it's one of the best car shows around!
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It's an "Event"........Like the Street Rod Nationals...only with some of the "Finest" Muscle Cars on the Planet.......and.........you have the option of buying any one you want...........I think it's pretty cool..."Everyone" knows the Rules going in........So.....What's the Problem...... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hmmm.gif
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69hurstSC
01-10-2008, 05:35 AM
investment owners are in this hobby for the wrong reasons
Bill Howell
01-10-2008, 05:45 AM
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Amazing...The market has turned down, Barrett-Jackson is the biggest barometer of that and it is their fault ? Someone sells a car at no reserve, doesn't get what he thought he should and it is their fault ? Was there not enough bidders ? Has there ever been that many registered bidders ? And it is their fault ? The guy with the Cuda made money on the car but bitched because he was sure it was worth more. Does anyone think the same car today will still bring what the guy got for it ? I don't think it will. Yes I think the quality of cars is down because of the no reserve but I applaud them for doing it while it worked. This is a auction. All my life I looked at auctions as a place to maybe get a good deal. Now the sellers should sue because they listed a car at a auction at no reserve and it didn't get them what they would have set their reserve at if they had a reserve ? ARRGH !!!!!!!!
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I agree 100% Charley. If you watch the life on the block episode with this car and the actual auction, Mr Clabuesch said in one of the pre auction interviews that he "would see" if Chrysler was wrong or if he was by not taking their offer earlier in the year. Then the car brings more money than they offered him and he still pulls this stunt, slandering Barrett Jackson all over the internet, etc.....
I am afraid this incident just goes to show how we Americans take bits of news clips, and take them to be the gospel. Hopefully they got into his pocket deep enough to make him think before pulling another stunt like this.
Thanks for posting this Charley. I could not log in on the new laptop, had to get back on the old Dell...
rich p
01-10-2008, 06:33 AM
Like the Judge who sued for his suit !! Whats up with these Judges ??? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif
They should know better about wasting court time. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/scholar.gif
Donutblue
01-10-2008, 06:41 AM
Whats a RESERVE ?? I SAID just make him an offer !!
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quick-bowtie
01-10-2008, 06:59 AM
I too agree that its NOT Barretts fault the market went bad and all the sellers know its NO RESERVE before hand so to whine after the fact falls on deaf ears to me.
What I dont like it the Rock Star event it has become, 5 or 6 years ago when I first started selling with them they treated people right and actually thanked you for bringing your car and even kicked you a couple perks but now Barret has turned into a Money Monster with partnerships, TV, and the whole rock star attitude, unless you have a BIG NAME or a BIGGER CHECK book your a nobody and it clear shows. Why on earth would you treat your normal clients like second string?? when the market goes bad and the rock stars stay home your screwed and I think that is alot of whats happening..
Dana's sales and Russo still give you that personal touch and make you feel welcome and that there thankful for your business and thats what I believe will continue to make them rise and Barrett fall.
I for one wont sell with them again and I even made good money with them last year to me its all about how your treated and Barrett has become to big for there own good. IMHO
Im going to buy because I believe there will be some somkin' deals with all the negitivity how that got the few good cars they have to go NO RESERVE this year is beyond me.
After watching life on the block that Judge clearly sealed his fate by what they recorded him saying.. but it did sell way to cheap and Id glady give 300k for the car today.
I don't think anyone can directly blame B/J,or anyother auction house,for any market rise or fall.Their popularity and thus televising & reporting auction prices more frequently today,shows the world what certain people are willing to pay,and thus makes more & more vehicle owners AND buyers stand up & take notice as well.
Be it up or down.
kwhizz
01-10-2008, 03:34 PM
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I don't think anyone can directly blame B/J,or anyother auction house,for any market rise or fall.Their popularity and thus televising & reporting auction prices more frequently today,shows the world what certain people are willing to pay,and thus makes more & more vehicle owners AND buyers stand up & take notice as well.
Be it up or down.
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Ken
Supergas990
01-10-2008, 06:05 PM
I've never attended any car auction, but do tend to follow them and will have some beers while watching BJ each January. To me it's a way to get my winter car fever exercised.
For my nickle, I'd prefer to do business with anyone from this site on a private/dealer car purchase than at an auction. Perhaps I'm to methodical when it comes to car shopping, but I prefer to know and trust the person I'm dealing with. A good deal is one that all parties agree is fair.
Auctions are a different animal and i think get even more difficult when participants get into their 15 minutes of celebrity.
my.02
Blair
Hylton
01-10-2008, 06:31 PM
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This is a auction...... Now the sellers should sue because they listed a car at a auction at no reserve and it didn't get them what they would have set their reserve at if they had a reserve ? ARRGH !!!!!!!!
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I remember you making this argument last January and agreed with you then. I could not believe how many guys were expecting to make a pile of dough in a no reserve auction.
Bill Pritchard
01-10-2008, 06:47 PM
From an article on this subject in this morning's 'Arizona Republic' newspaper.....
"The terms of the financial settlement were not disclosed."
My guess is that B-J offered the judge a few bucks for his perceived shortfall, he made his mea culpa, and everyone moves on.
mockingbird812
01-10-2008, 07:03 PM
Hey Bill. Good to hear from you. Should be nice Saturday afternoon. In fact a nice day for a top down cruise up to Indian Bend and 101! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif
To avoid something like this happening again,and if they don't already,do you guys think that auction companies will now have one of their own meet with a seller one on one while their vehicle is being driven away from the gavel,to gauge the sellers opinions/feelings and settle any disputes right there & then?
njsteve
01-10-2008, 07:57 PM
Absolutely not. They dont really care about how the seller feels. I do see them placing all sold cars in a security controlled lot with no access by anyone but the buyer after his paperwork is finished. I bet that will be something new added this year.
Canuck
01-10-2008, 08:41 PM
As speculated the entire matter is finished. Steve Davis added his .02cents in the press release. I feel much better now. I wonder if he was wearing his shades during the press release.
http://www.barrett-jackson.com/media/pressreleases/010908_FinalStatement.asp
kwhizz
01-10-2008, 09:14 PM
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From an article on this subject in this morning's 'Arizona Republic' newspaper.....
"The terms of the financial settlement were not disclosed."
My guess is that B-J offered the judge a few bucks for his perceived shortfall, he made his mea culpa, and everyone moves on.
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I Hope they didn't give him a "Penny"........They did "Nothing" wrong.........
Ken http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif
Stuart Adams
01-10-2008, 09:34 PM
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From an article on this subject in this morning's 'Arizona Republic' newspaper.....
"The terms of the financial settlement were not disclosed."
My guess is that B-J offered the judge a few bucks for his perceived shortfall, he made his mea culpa, and everyone moves on.
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I Hope they didn't give him a "Penny"........They did "Nothing" wrong.........
Ken http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif
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Exactly. It's a frickin no reserve auction. It's a big corporate business that probably has lost some of its personal appeal, but that is corporate America. Have you called Sprint lately.
If you sell or buy at these no reserve auctions no whiners allowed. Like Bill Gates sais "Life isn't fair, get used to it."
427king
01-10-2008, 10:13 PM
If you bring a big dollar car to BJ, just ask in writing that you want to be guaranteed a certain amount of run time in the contract.
Charley Lillard
01-10-2008, 10:21 PM
The contract is very clear that there is no run time guarantee...
Stuart Adams
01-10-2008, 10:34 PM
Probably alot more phone bidders and foreign money at this years auction.
427king
01-10-2008, 10:34 PM
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The contract is very clear that there is no run time guarantee...
[/ QUOTE ] Im sure they like others will need to start catering to sellers again in the very near future.
njsteve
01-10-2008, 11:44 PM
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Probably alot more phone bidders and foreign money at this years auction.
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Probably Canadians, http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif the way the Canadian dollar is at the moment compared to the US dollar.
Norm reynolds
01-10-2008, 11:56 PM
The way I see it people know there is NO reserve so they don’t have to go to B/j to sell cars The way to get though MR Jackson is no one goes there to sell there cars with out a reserve might take a few years but when less and less people go there then he might not be so bull headed It has been discuss a lot a local car cubs and shows that I have been to this past year .Most of the people that once went there will not this year and what is the story of Steve Davis ??
Every were I went this past summer I hear this guys name it seemed that he ticked off way to many people with last year circus Mr. Jackson would be wise not to even have this guy there But in the end it up to the people if they do not like the way they are running the business then you do not have to go there. If it was that bad last year then the best thing to do instead of
crying about it is just don’t go The best way to get some one to under stand is in the pocket Sure there will be people going this year but might not as many as last year and maybe less in 09 .To me that make the biggest statement. Lawsuits are messy and take to long By less people get involved the less money made and that will wake them up and clean it up
Me I am not going to waste my time watching it on Tv
The bottom line is there is no reserve this is a know fact so if you do not like it DON’T GO. Depending on B/j to work the cars to get the money you want is very dangerous and not the smartest thing to do
427king
01-11-2008, 12:19 AM
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The bottom line is there is no reserve
[/ QUOTE ] The "no reserve" is a incorrect term. If i bring a COPO there and say on the contract ill buy it back up to 200K, then the reserve is 200K,you as a bidder just dont know it. So in effect it isnt a no reserve auction.Then again it insures that the auction house receives boith seller and buyer commision on both ends whether a car actually trades hands or not . Its like bidding on an item on ebay with no reserve ,and then at the last second the sellers preset bid gos in effect. How the term no reserve gets used is beyond me.
Charley Lillard
01-11-2008, 12:29 AM
As far as I know there is no place to tell the auction house you will buy it back. I think in fact they state that the seller cannot buy it back. That does not prevent a seller from having a friend that is a registered bidder buy it back for him but you better have friends that really trust each other.
x Baldwin Motion
01-11-2008, 12:48 AM
"and then at the last second the sellers preset bid gos in effect" http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif
Chuck, the seller bids on his own item under a different name to meet his (no)reserve? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif
Johnny Horsepower
01-11-2008, 01:00 AM
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The bottom line is there is no reserve
[/ QUOTE ] The "no reserve" is a incorrect term. If i bring a COPO there and say on the contract ill buy it back up to 200K, then the reserve is 200K,you as a bidder just dont know it. So in effect it isnt a no reserve auction.Then again it insures that the auction house receives boith seller and buyer commision on both ends whether a car actually trades hands or not . Its like bidding on an item on ebay with no reserve ,and then at the last second the sellers preset bid gos in effect. How the term no reserve gets used is beyond me.
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427king
01-11-2008, 01:23 AM
Charlie, Why do you hear about people getting upset because they had to pay the sellers and the buyers premium just to get thier title back?? Weve all heard about the Crossram car from OK, that the seller had to cough up 20K plus just to have them release his car back to him, is that a false story?????? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif
Charley Lillard
01-11-2008, 02:32 AM
InI think in prior years to las year you could buy your car back. Last year they said no. I remember Andy Wolf wanting to buy his 68 Yenko back and they said no. He didn't think about having a friend there to buy it back for him. Ifyou don't want to let your car go under a certain amount then you should take it to a reserve auction. If you do buy your own car back and the hammer drops before they realize you are the owner I think all they can do is charge you both the buyer and seller fee. At 16% on a 100K car you only net 84K after you buy it back so you hadbetter really think about weather you think you can do better than 84K before you buy it back. You also have to have some consideration for the buyer that reads the catalog that says no reserve, flys across country only to have the guy buy his own car back.
427king
01-11-2008, 03:24 AM
The simple solution to ending ALL and ANY type of shill bidding at any public auctions on high dollar items ,cars or otherwise is to have the venue issue IRS sales/purchase reporting forms to buyers and sellers just like when land and property change hands. At that point buyyer and seller have too much to lose on a false sale.
Bill Pritchard
01-11-2008, 04:05 AM
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I Hope they didn't give him a "Penny"........They did "Nothing" wrong.........
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In a perfect world, I couldn't agree more, Ken. Unfortunately, in the real world, things don't always work that way. B-J needed to make this go away before this year's event got underway, and have any accusations (real or otherwise) made against them refuted. They got that, in spades.
Stefano
01-11-2008, 04:13 AM
I don't want to unjustly accuse anyone of anything, but: if you watch BJ, R&S or even RM, on TV last year you'll see Charley at each and every Venue with a bidders pass around his neck.
I think he might just be a professional Jacker?????
It is not the mfg of the "gun" we should blame, but the guy who pulls the trigger, so to speak.
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Johnny Horsepower
01-11-2008, 04:21 AM
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Charlie, Why do you hear about people getting upset because they had to pay the sellers and the buyers premium just to get thier title back?? Weve all heard about the Crossram car from OK, that the seller had to cough up 20K plus just to have them release his car back to him, is that a false story?????? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif
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I think the point of contention is the term no-reserve; and it is a valid term. At a reserve auction you pay nothing but a stiffer enrty fee; if the car does not sell take it home. In a no reserve if you ended up buying your car back directly or not, you are paying buyer AND sellers fee. What does this mean. You did not have a reserve and the car sells to the highest bidder. If that bidder is you, it cost you money that it does not cost in a reserve auction. The goal of no reserve is to let people know the car really is for sale and it is. In short , I see no problem with the term "no-reserve" as it is very diferent from a reserve auction.
My $.02
JOHN
Charley Lillard
01-11-2008, 04:22 AM
Ha !!! I think it is Bubbles.....
kwhizz
01-11-2008, 04:26 AM
I don't want to unjustly accuse anyone of anything, but: if you watch BJ, R&S or even RM, on TV last year you'll see Charley at each and every Venue with a bidders pass around his neck.
Quote...........Stefano
So........Are you saying that Charley is one of those "Lurker" http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gifguy's..........LOL
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kwhizz
01-11-2008, 04:28 AM
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Ha !!! I think it is Bubbles.....
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Hummmmm!!!!!!! Jeff knows about "Bubbles"......
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427king
01-11-2008, 04:29 AM
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I don't want to unjustly accuse anyone of anything, but: if you watch BJ, R&S or even RM, on TV last year you'll see Charley at each and every Venue with a bidders pass around his neck.
[/ QUOTE ] Lillard is just trying to get in good with all of them them so they wont charge him full 480,000 commission when his supersnake sells. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Xplantdad
01-11-2008, 07:10 AM
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Ha !!! I think it is Bubbles.....
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Hummmmm!!!!!!! Jeff knows about "Bubbles"......
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Yes...yes Jeff does http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
nuch_ss396
01-11-2008, 04:12 PM
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Probably some back office deal made between the plaintiff and defendant "we'll give you what you wanted for the car and you recant your bashing of BJ" end of story
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Yes Jim - But don't foget about the ever popular NDA (non-disclosure
agreement) that must have been signed..... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
Nuch
Canucklehead
01-12-2008, 05:21 AM
Hey Charley, you don't have to answer if you don't want to but here you are a guy with a high profile car for sale, now what would be your opinion on why you would'nt take your car there in the fact that the other supersnake got 5.5 mill last year. Don't mean to put you on the spot but just curious what your opinion would be from a collectors point of view.
Charley Lillard
01-12-2008, 06:10 AM
I don't have the nerve to sell at no reserve.....
novarichie
01-12-2008, 06:16 AM
don't send it through b.j. ring up ron pratt?
Canucklehead
01-12-2008, 06:29 AM
I would assume Ron has already heard about it, a man with that kind of collection surely has his ear in the right places
I would also think that with the internet play your car is getting you will get the word out to the appropiate people anyways. With that kind of a car those people know who has it.
rich p
01-12-2008, 06:45 AM
I dont think he will be the guy that rings the Bell for the highest sale this Year.. But we were saying that last year.. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif
Not the way the Euros are http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif and this is what some of the Muscle owners will look like http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif
oboym
01-12-2008, 07:06 AM
1966 Cobra Super Snake at B-J
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPES8hxU4dM
novarichie
01-12-2008, 07:38 AM
well,if not pratt,how about williams,the guy that ran pratt up on the cobra last year?
BUIZILLA
01-12-2008, 02:43 PM
personally, I think they should do away with phone bidding..... seems shady to me.... if your not in front of the podium your not in the game... that includes the lazy a$$es hovering the bar in the back, get off your a$$ and get up front..
my .02
rich p
01-12-2008, 06:10 PM
Thats why its the Greatest auction on Planet Earth. Bids are coming from everywhere ! Should see the view from the SkyBox..
CRAZY !!! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif
We were sitting next to the guy from the Discovery Channel when he was using ALLEN as his bidder and the place was going CRAZY. I think Charlie was sitting there and their is nothing like it !!! The Frenzy over the million dollar cars is overwhelming. No Car Show or any other auction can give you this feeling.
You just dont feel it sitting on the couch http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/drool.gif
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