Barrett-Jackson 2008.....

[markinnaples]

$63k for a Turbo T/A? Yikes, even with 7k miles. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ooo.gif

[69hurstSC]

i'm doing the fantasy bid thing and went over on the Truck Trike by $500 and over on the T-bird by $1,000. so basically i'm screwed in the points because you dont get any for going over! trying to win a 26" flat screen!!!

[markinnaples]

I just bid on the old Chev coupe, we'll see what happens.

Good luck, as I am leaving for Vac Thursday night and won't see most of the auction.

[Chateau Slate 66]

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$63k for a Turbo T/A? Yikes, even with 7k miles. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ooo.gif

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That's what I thought too! I thought the turbo motor was "undesirable". http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

[quick-bowtie]

PRICES ARE INSANE TODAY.. If this holds up friday and sat will set records.. pretty sure its just the inexperined buyers paying crazy money today though..

[quick-bowtie]

P.S. the T/A was a very nice car and I wanted it I thought it was a 25k car and told myself Id even pay 30k boy was I wrong!!

[Charley Lillard]

TA was a very low mile car but cars were bringing great money for what they were.

[70 copo]

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$63k for a Turbo T/A? Yikes, even with 7k miles. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ooo.gif

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That's what I thought too! I thought the turbo motor was "undesirable". http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

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No Mystery about it. Nice Late Bandit aditions have been hot for years.

The guys who wanted these cars when they were young and could not afford are now stepping up to the plate because Now they have the money and now they are going to get what they wanted years ago.

You are right the 301 Turbo was challanged with a less than great turbo oiling system that caused early turbo failure, and overall ran mid 17's all day.

I drove two seperate 301T T/A cars that my friend had new. Both were so slow... by comparison my 2bbl 383 '67 Chrysler Newport would stay right with either at WOT. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif

[GTO_DON]

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P.S. the T/A was a very nice car and I wanted it I thought it was a 25k car and told myself Id even pay 30k boy was I wrong!! [/quote
I have a 1977 True Bandit car with 8400 miles on it that is just as nice as that car! Mine is a W72 car also. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Z-11 396]

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TA was a very low mile car but {{{ cars were bringing great money for what they were }}}.

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++ Lilliard ++ Does that included the << Corvair's >> too.!!!!!!!!.???????????????????.. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif..Kasey

[Charley Lillard]

Kasey...I didn't see the final price but there was a corvair wagon that I think I saw at about 8K before I got sidetracked and didn't see it end. I thought it was strong money for about a 64 wagon.

[TMagda]

There was a red 1979 TA, 400, 4 speed (desirable) w/ 300 miles that sold on ebay a few months ago. I think it went for mid 30's. I had a '79 403 auto in 1979. Kept it for 3 months - total POS. I alway thought the '79 400, 4 speed was considered the last "desirable" TA. It is to me anyway. $63k for a 301 turbo is shocking. I am so priced out of this hobby.

[king_midas]

Un-verified, but I have heard that in Vegas the casinos put "plants" at slot machines in high-traffic areas that win a lot...

I know nothing more than those cars were about the worst GM F-Bodies ever built; they are total crap, no performance, rattletraps with tacky decals. I don't care if it had 7K miles on it, whomever bought it either wanted their 20 seconds of fame, or won the Powerball.

Any early Turbo T/A or Formula is a candidate for worst car ever, and viable evidence of approximately when GM de-railed.

[Late BrakeU2]

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Un-verified, but I have heard that in Vegas the casinos put "plants" at slot machines in high-traffic areas that win a lot...

I know nothing more than those cars were about the worst GM F-Bodies ever built; they are total crap, no performance, rattletraps with tacky decals. I don't care if it had 7K miles on it, whomever bought it either wanted their 20 seconds of fame, or won the Powerball.

Any early Turbo T/A or Formula is a candidate for worst car ever, and viable evidence of approximately when GM de-railed.

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Don't sugar coat it,how do you really feel? Seriously though at 70k with juice that's about 3X what that car would normally bring.For the same coin you could have a 10th annie W72 4spd with similar mileage AND a Y84!
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[1970Bluel78]

Some guy I knew had one of those Turbo T/A's. What a turd.

[68l30]

A good friend of mine has a 81 TA SE 301 non turbo.....neat car but guttless..I remember a quote from a mag back then that said Pontiac managed to turbo charge a V-8 and still couldn't find horsepower... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Steve

[Hylton]

Well I have had experience with those 301 turbo's and not only were they turds, but the turbo would not last 50K miles. The only way a turbo T/A is worth 63K is if it has 62K cash in the trunk!

[69hurstSC]

it doesnt really matter what the fellow paid, it was his money. the car was immaculate and beautiful, coupled with the fact it is in the most desired color combination. if this car ran 14's from the factory we would be wondering why it went so cheap.

[agtw31]

sounds like some fresh meat got bid by the bidding bug.

[TMagda]

This kind of thing kills me because I wanted a '79 TA. I always liked the looks and thought a 400, 4 speed might be a great low cost entry into the muscle car hobby. Now everyone that owns one is going to think it's worth $60k.

[Z-11 396]

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Kasey...I didn't see the final price but there was a corvair wagon that I think I saw at about 8K before I got sidetracked and didn't see it end. I thought it was strong money for about a 64 wagon.

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+++ Charley +++ Looking at the price's they are getting,it is well below the price for similar car's on EBAY.. Of course I don't know the condition of the ones at BJ, that would make a difference. Hope you, and the other guys are having a great time. As the ole //// Indiana Jone's /// Knight said in the cave, when you pick a Car, Spend your Money <<< Wisely >>>.. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif...Kasey

[HiHorse]

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$63k for a Turbo T/A? Yikes, even with 7k miles. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ooo.gif

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I think I better go check out this local original paint '78 T/A 4spd at 5% the cost.

[Jeff H]

I like most of the 70's Birds and T/A's but the front end on that 80 is http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif and the turbo motor is another http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif so I was really surprised to see it climb that high. I was thinking prices might be up because the real estate market is down and the stock market is down. Fri and Sat could be interesting.

[Mr70]

I've got an urge for a red bar of cheddar.. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/headbang.gif
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

[YenkoYS-199Stinger]

I had one of the Recaro Turbo TA's I picked up in the late 80's. The girl http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif that had it was on her 2nd motor and 4th turbo. I pulled the 301 and shoved a 327 with ported heads and threw a modified turbo on it from Texas Turbos. Now that puppy would run!!!!!! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif

[firstgenaddict]

Whoa... a 67 SS 350 for 90k?
WOW http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif

[KENNY_PASCOE]

I WAS THINKING THE SAME THING.... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif KP

[gab02]

I love to watch the Barrett-Jackson, but the monster garage cars suck http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif!!! I'm ready for some real cars.

[Mr. Chevy]

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Whoa... a 67 SS 350 for 90k?
WOW http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif

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I SECOND THAT!!!!!!!!!!!

Rich

[Mr. Chevy]

How about that 69 Camaro pace car with the small block?? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif

Rich

[firstgenaddict]

Saw that as well... it looked like a driver with nice paint at the best... lots wrong at a glance and looked like the chassis was over sprayed... 60 something .... YIKES...

[firstgenaddict]

66 L-72 Big car... 53.5k not bad...

[67BelAir427]

It was IHRA Top Fuel racer Bruce Litton who bought that car.

[bilede]

I should be at B-J tomorrow. If we haven't met before and you see my SYC hat be sure and say hi!

[chevelleheart]

Does anybody have any info on the 69 Green COPO Chevelle at Barrett Jackson. Any info is gladly welcome'd . Thx Bob [email protected] or 1-403-519-2685

[Charley Lillard]

I went to the Haggerty Insurance party and in the parking lot was a Yenko Deuce. Either Gobi or yellow. I didn't get close to check though and it was dark.

[mssl72]

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66 L-72 Big car... 53.5k not bad...

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The guy took a loss on that one. He paid 56k I think it was last year at BJ. He put some money into it in the meantime, paint, etc. and put it on the block this year. I think he should have waited a few years.

[Paul_S]

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It was IHRA Top Fuel racer Bruce Litton who bought that car.

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Bruce bought the L-72 Caprice? So, that means it's going to Indiana? hmm... getting close.

[Jeff H]

That 1970 Nova L78 #'s matching GM of Canada car seemed to be a good buy at $50K. The automatic probably hurt the potential value on the car.

[69hurstSC]

i still cant believe the Talladega's and there sister cars Cyclone Spoilers still havent broke the bank. its just plain stupid!!!

[Paul_S]

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i still cant believe the Talladega's and there sister cars Cyclone Spoilers still havent broke the bank. its just plain stupid!!!

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Yup, what he said...

[Mr. Chevy]

That 68 Chevelle ss 396/325HP car 4 speed, light blue sold at a good price of 60k.. I thought it was going to do more than that... I was shocked that the black, rag top, 69 Chevelle SS non numbers 396 with aftermarket intake and headers pulled the money it did...

Rich

[427450]

Just watched a non numbers matching AAR Cuda pull $90,000 plus the 10% buyers fee, that is $99,000 for a car without the original drivetrain! That seems to me to be pretty good also.

Don't know what the "BIG DOLLAR" cars will do yet. However, do you guys think some money is coming out of the stock market and into collectibles (again)?

[Chris396]

Prices seem to be pretty solid this year. That woman should have told the auctioneer yelling at her to bid $90,000 for the Black Chevelle SS convertible to F off. That would have really made me mad.

[jasonL78]

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Prices seem to be pretty solid this year. That woman should have told the auctioneer yelling at her to bid $90,000 for the Black Chevelle SS convertible to F off. That would have really made me mad.

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I was thinking the same thing. I would think you are under alot of pressure to make a quick decission on a car you want to buy. You don't need some jerk yelling in you ear bid 90,000. It was just wrong!!!!

Just my 2 cents

[Mike]

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That 1970 Nova L78 #'s matching GM of Canada car seemed to be a good buy at $50K. The automatic probably hurt the potential value on the car.

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The hammer looked like it was going to come down at around $38K...then it got a second wind. Looked like a nice car.

[StealthBird]

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I know nothing more than those cars were about the worst GM F-Bodies ever built; they are total crap, no performance, rattletraps with tacky decals. I don't care if it had 7K miles on it, whomever bought it either wanted their 20 seconds of fame, or won the Powerball.

Any early Turbo T/A or Formula is a candidate for worst car ever, and viable evidence of approximately when GM de-railed.

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Well, considering the 70-81 Trans Am's were FAR better cars, with more power, better handling, better build quality, and nicer interiors than 70-81 Z/28's, I guess that puts the 70-81 Camaros and Z/28's just beneath the AMC Pacers and Gremlins on the old hiearchy chart. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

The 80-81 Turbo T/A's were slow, very slow, but in 1980-1981 they were considered fast. The 210 hp rating on those cars was accurate, but without much torque, it's pretty hard to push a 4000 lb car with 301 cubes, even it it was helped by a turbo. Buick got it right a few years later....

The Turbo T/A only had to compete with the likes of 170 hp Camaros, Corvettes, Citations, and other rolling embarrasments like the infamous Hurst/Olds W-30, or the gelded AMX, or a host of other cars we'd all like to forget. Face it, everything pretty much sucked during those years.

But at least the 80-81 Turbo Trans Am's remained performance cars during this dismal era. They remained the best handling cars in America, they came with 4-wheel disc brakes, and are remembered for being one of the more beautiful cars from that time period. Probably half of the people that bought those cars didn't have a clue about all the research and work that went into creating an aerodynamic tour de force, with functional spoilers, extractors, and how the WS6 suspension was a source of jealously amongst the Chevrolet engineers. To most buyers, it just looked cool.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but considering the 80-81 Special Edition black/gold cars are going for $40K+ now, it shows that even though these cars, while slow in the 1/4 mile compared to 1960's standards, are now bringing prices equivalent to restored base 64-72 GTO's, 442's, GS's, and Chevelle SS's.

Different strokes....

[Mr. Chevy]

It is amazing how some things bid high and others that look like really nice, good, solid buy cars will not do a whole lot.. Like that 70 L78 Nova mentioned above.. For example just can't see how that does 50k and what I though was hideous looking that stretched out, customized gold T-Bird http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif did like 80k I think it was was.. Makes me sick, but I guess it is all in peoples tastes and what turns them on!! Definatley not for me!! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

Rich

[69hurstSC]

<~~~ interested to see what the SC/rambler will bring. they made a descent jump from 2 years ago to last year.

[mockingbird812]

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I know nothing more than those cars were about the worst GM F-Bodies ever built; they are total crap, no performance, rattletraps with tacky decals. I don't care if it had 7K miles on it, whomever bought it either wanted their 20 seconds of fame, or won the Powerball.

Any early Turbo T/A or Formula is a candidate for worst car ever, and viable evidence of approximately when GM de-railed.

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Well, considering the 70-81 Trans Am's were FAR better cars, with more power, better handling, better build quality, and nicer interiors than 70-81 Z/28's, I guess that puts the 70-81 Camaros and Z/28's just beneath the AMC Pacers and Gremlins on the old hiearchy chart. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

The 80-81 Turbo T/A's were slow, very slow, but in 1980-1981 they were considered fast. The 210 hp rating on those cars was accurate, but without much torque, it's pretty hard to push a 4000 lb car with 301 cubes, even it it was helped by a turbo. Buick got it right a few years later....

The Turbo T/A only had to compete with the likes of 170 hp Camaros, Corvettes, Citations, and other rolling embarrasments like the infamous Hurst/Olds W-30, or the gelded AMX, or a host of other cars we'd all like to forget. Face it, everything pretty much sucked during those years.

But at least the 80-81 Turbo Trans Am's remained performance cars during this dismal era. They remained the best handling cars in America, they came with 4-wheel disc brakes, and are remembered for being one of the more beautiful cars from that time period. Probably half of the people that bought those cars didn't have a clue about all the research and work that went into creating an aerodynamic tour de force, with functional spoilers, extractors, and how the WS6 suspension was a source of jealously amongst the Chevrolet engineers. To most buyers, it just looked cool.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but considering the 80-81 Special Edition black/gold cars are going for $40K+ now, it shows that even though these cars, while slow in the 1/4 mile compared to 1960's standards, are now bringing prices equivalent to restored base 64-72 GTO's, 442's, GS's, and Chevelle SS's.

Different strokes....

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Nice commentary - I enjoyed the story! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[musclecarjohn]

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The hammer looked like it was going to come down at around $38K...then it got a second wind. Looked like a nice car.

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Is it just me or has anyone noticed the increased block time these cars seem to be getting this year?I know the pace is slower the first few days but this must obviously be a fall-out over the Ramchargers fiasco last year.
If you look closely,the auctioneer holds the hammer up until Craig Jackson gives a slight nod.
I don't think anyone can complain about short-selling so far this year...

[Hylton]

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Well, considering the 70-81 Trans Am's were FAR better cars, with more power, better handling, better build quality, and nicer interiors than 70-81 Z/28's, I guess that puts the 70-81 Camaros and Z/28's just beneath the AMC Pacers and Gremlins on the old hiearchy chart. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif


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I have owned 4 2nd gen Trans Ams and I agree that the 2nd gen T/A was a better handling car than the Camaro but the only people I can see prefering the valour interior are pimps and John Travolta whannabees. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif The turbo cars may have had more horsepower than the stock LM1 Camaros but everyone knew that all you needed were headers, a cam and an aluminium intake to get the car into mid to low 14's. We even kept the stock rear, crappy heads and Rochester on them.

[Fast67VelleN2O]

In a 1979 Issue of Car Craft, that I believe I still have around, they took a bare bones (no p/w, no t-tops, no a/c etc) 79 Trans Am WS6 400 4 speed car with a 3.42 posi, and I believe they got it to go high 13's stone stock! If thats not badass for 1979 standards, I don't know what is!

[StealthBird]

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I have owned 4 2nd gen Trans Ams and I agree that the 2nd gen T/A was a better handling car than the Camaro but the only people I can see prefering the valour interior are pimps and John Travolta whannabees. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif The turbo cars may have had more horsepower than the stock LM1 Camaros but everyone knew that all you needed were headers, a cam and an aluminium intake to get the car into mid to low 14's. We even kept the stock rear, crappy heads and Rochester on them.

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Uhmmm....yeah....I guess modifying a Z/28 with headers, cam, and intake, and leaving a Turbo Trans Am dead stock, is fair. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[tom406]

I'm not sure we're ever going to see Talladegas and Spoiler II's catch fire. They're unique and cool, to be sure, but I think FoMoCo's decision to build them in big, homogenous batches limits their overall appeal. ALL the Spoiler II's are 351/FMX auto cars, which is certainly not an awe-inspiring drivetrain. The Talladegas do better with their standard 428CJ, an awesome engine for sure, but all are column shift C6 autos. That swoopy body, then you open the door to that mundane bench seat interior.

I know they don't all have to be purple 4 speeds, but there's simply not enough variety to make it interesting. With Spoiler II's you really only get to search out blue stripes or red (Dan Gurney or Cale Yarborough editions, respectively). You get a couple of color choices with Talladegas (burgandy, dk blue, white), but that's about it.

Imagine if all of the Charger Daytonas were white 383/autos with red or blue tail stripes. Or if all the Superbirds were column shifted 440-4bbls with 14x6 Magnum 500s in White, medium blue, and maroon. That market certainly wouldn't be as much fun.

Conversely, imagine a world where there's a few Talladegas finished in Calypso Coral or Competition Yellow, fitted with buckets/consoles and 428SCJ/4spd drivetrains. Or maybe a special run of 50 Boss 429 powered Spoiler II's (some of which aren't white!). That market suddenly gets a lot more interesting.

I don't think you can call it a "Ford" thing anymore, not with these '70/'71 429CJ cars suddenly bringing 6 figures. There aren't many secrets left out there. The people pay for what they want....

[70 copo]

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The hammer looked like it was going to come down at around $38K...then it got a second wind. Looked like a nice car.

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Is it just me or has anyone noticed the increased block time these cars seem to be getting this year?I know the pace is slower the first few days but this must obviously be a fall-out over the Ramchargers fiasco last year.
If you look closely,the auctioneer holds the hammer up until Craig Jackson gives a slight nod.
I don't think anyone can complain about short-selling so far this year...

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Yes I have observed the same thing. Seems like the Auctioneers are wringing every last $ out of the cars, and that is a good thing. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[StealthBird]

Tom, I agree. However, I don't think limiting the Talledega's and Spoiler II's to a few color choices is what's holding them back. I think it's their drivetrain, coupled with the fact that they weren't very well known as boulevard brawlers back in the day.

If limited color choices was a factor, I would think that a 70 Stage 1 Buick would be more valuable than a 70 GSX, and an 87 T-Type Buick would be more sought after than an 87 Grand National.

I think it's just that collectors have largely ignored the aero cars, outside of the famous winged wonders from Chrylser.

[joeindetroit]

I thought the prices for the first couple of nights seemed off. Some of the cars I thought would bring good money didnt. I couldnt believe the turbo t/a brought that much money.

[Late BrakeU2]

110k for a non RS 71Z28..up from here?
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[chads454Ls6]

Mark,what was the mileage on that Z?

[69motion]

my friend has a low milege 72z-28 survior if any one wants info im me

[Fhakya]

I think that one had 17K original miles. WOW http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif on that price still.

[Z-11 396]

At 4;01 on Speed Tv the one, and only +++ Lilliard +++ show's up on big screen at the BJ show at the $71,000 H-Boy auction, I thought sure he was going to get it, but no sale...Hope you had a great time in talking the // other guy // to spend his money, and not your's " Wisely "....Kasey .. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif

[Late BrakeU2]

Reported to be 16k original,looked like a repaint with wrong color grill still very nice though.I could see that price for a 70 Copo RS in Hugger but a NOM 71? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

[MGINLA]

Mark,

Did that car come from the Chev Connection in Oregon? (The same seller with the Benchmark Chevelle now with stripes?)I think it had a replacement block. I would sell my 69 at that price. Oh well I guess the BJ effect is not dead this year.

[Late BrakeU2]

Hey Myles,

Not sure about that one..nice to see that LS6 pull 140k though! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

Breakfast sunday?

[MGINLA]

Yes, that $140K was nice. Now I regret selling mine, you should be happy. Now get to work on that one. I would be happy to meet for Breakfast on Sunday. Just let me know. It is not the last Sunday of the month.

[mc25t190]

I like the fact that a green 70 Boss 302 without a shaker did $105k. Mine is yellow with a shaker.I got it back last weekend. I owned it in 2001 and i got lucky to get it back, i can't say that for some others.

[musclecarjohn]

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I think that one had 17K original miles. WOW http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif on that price still.

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18K miles...wrong steering wheel,shift knob,front grille...and a NOM engine to boot! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif

WOW http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif

[69motion]

72 z28 can be seen at carrollstauto.com thanks jeff

[Late BrakeU2]

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72 z28 can be seen at carrollstauto.com thanks jeff

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http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif
Strike while the iron's hot eh?

[CamarosRus]

Will someone please steer me toward the alledged FACTS on this 71 Z that sold for $100K !!!!!!!!!!

,,,,,,and if Mark Y was seller, how can ANY PART of the car be trusted as "born with" ??????????

[Hylton]

I think they had stated that the engine was not original to the car despite the low mileage.

[MGINLA]

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Z28

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b156/lotsayenkopics/Barrett%20Jackson%202008/monday/tn_DSCF0572.jpg

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b156/lotsayenkopics/Barrett%20Jackson%202008/monday/tn_DSCF0573.jpg

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I think this is the car. The shot was taken by Bruce on Monday. All of Chev Connections have the same plates. Not sure if this is Mark Y.

[musclecarjohn]

that is the car,dig that grille.

[CamarosRus]

That 72/73 Grill is OUTRAGEOUS on a 71 Camaro. I'd also like to look at many of the other low milage, original parts on this car, such as wheels, center caps, trim rings, shifter knob, tailpipes etc etc...........

I recognize those custon wheel ramps as being Mark Y's.

Interested to see what documentation was secured to show evidence of only 17,000+ miles,or was that 117,000??????

[JRSully]

Sellers are laughing all the way to the bank on that 71 Z, the 5 spoke mags were shinier than my Grandma's wig, poor guy with the Sebring Yellow 70 W30 442 only pulled $50k? seemed like a nice car and that clapped out 70 SCR Cyclone "1 of 3" pulls over $100k.? Clone prices seem way down and prices in general seem all over the place

[musclecarjohn]

How about lot #1017,the '70 Dodge Dart Custom w/the 800hp hemi,guy supposedly had $200K in it,it went for $51K... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif

$150K for that '54 Darrin-Kaiser convertible had to be a universe-record.

[COPO 70 RS/Z28]

Did the car in the picture sell for 100K !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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[Xplantdad]

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How about lot #1017,the '70 Dodge Dart Custom w/the 800hp hemi,guy supposedly had $200K in it,it went for $51K... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif

$150K for that '54 Darrin-Kaiser convertible had to be a universe-record.

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Was the Kaiser Darrin a pale green? If so...it was owned by one of the regulars at Pavillions....and the car was drop dead gorgeous! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[HO455]

The Sebring Yellow W-30 mentioned above is a true bondo buggy. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif The car was held together with gallons of bondo and the frame was completely rotted out. It went through the Mecum auction on several occasions and finally sold to a Car broker–Happy Dream Cars for around 60K several years ago. It also had none of its original drive train, although the car did have some paperwork in a binder. The only two Oldsmobiles of significance in the current B-J auction are a 1969 442 W-30 convertible and a 1966 Olds 442 Trac-Pac car. Both cars hit the auction block Saturday along with Warren Johnson’s 1987 Oldsmobile Firenza.

[musclecarjohn]

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How about lot #1017,the '70 Dodge Dart Custom w/the 800hp hemi,guy supposedly had $200K in it,it went for $51K... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif

$150K for that '54 Darrin-Kaiser convertible had to be a universe-record.

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Was the Kaiser Darrin a pale green? If so...it was owned by one of the regulars at Pavillions....and the car was drop dead gorgeous! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

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You know I didn't see it actually go off,They ran a banner with the day's top sellers.I believe there are 2 Kaiser-Darrin's there.

How are your feet holding up? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif

[Xplantdad]

Feet are barking...John!

The same guy owned the pale green Darrin...the red gto vert that went for 130K? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hmmm.gif and another car...

Get ready for tonight's pics soon...

[BARNFOUND YENKO]

440/4bbl Superbird w/auto trans. fetched $200k. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[musclecarjohn]

Didn't I just see George with Amy...? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif

[mc25t190]

i thought the Lemans Blue 69 Z28 for $75k was a bargain if the car was as described.

[67rscoupe]

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I know nothing more than those cars were about the worst GM F-Bodies ever built; they are total crap, no performance, rattletraps with tacky decals. I don't care if it had 7K miles on it, whomever bought it either wanted their 20 seconds of fame, or won the Powerball.

Any early Turbo T/A or Formula is a candidate for worst car ever, and viable evidence of approximately when GM de-railed.

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Well, considering the 70-81 Trans Am's were FAR better cars, with more power, better handling, better build quality, and nicer interiors than 70-81 Z/28's, I guess that puts the 70-81 Camaros and Z/28's just beneath the AMC Pacers and Gremlins on the old hiearchy chart. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

The 80-81 Turbo T/A's were slow, very slow, but in 1980-1981 they were considered fast. The 210 hp rating on those cars was accurate, but without much torque, it's pretty hard to push a 4000 lb car with 301 cubes, even it it was helped by a turbo. Buick got it right a few years later....

The Turbo T/A only had to compete with the likes of 170 hp Camaros, Corvettes, Citations, and other rolling embarrasments like the infamous Hurst/Olds W-30, or the gelded AMX, or a host of other cars we'd all like to forget. Face it, everything pretty much sucked during those years.

But at least the 80-81 Turbo Trans Am's remained performance cars during this dismal era. They remained the best handling cars in America, they came with 4-wheel disc brakes, and are remembered for being one of the more beautiful cars from that time period. Probably half of the people that bought those cars didn't have a clue about all the research and work that went into creating an aerodynamic tour de force, with functional spoilers, extractors, and how the WS6 suspension was a source of jealously amongst the Chevrolet engineers. To most buyers, it just looked cool.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but considering the 80-81 Special Edition black/gold cars are going for $40K+ now, it shows that even though these cars, while slow in the 1/4 mile compared to 1960's standards, are now bringing prices equivalent to restored base 64-72 GTO's, 442's, GS's, and Chevelle SS's.

Different strokes....

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i was paying attantion to that as well.

[67rscoupe]

they should have BJ on the radio..

but i guess im just sick!!!!

[69LM1]

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Did the car in the picture sell for 100K !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Actually 100K + !
Makes yours look like a great deal now! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[RamAirDave]

71 NOM Z for 100K makes about as much sense as the white 67 350 coupe for 90K. Or the red NOM 69 L34 for 110K.

The 71 sits a couple inches too high, which I've noticed on quite a few restored early 2nd gens. Is it that difficult to find the right springs for them?

[CamarosRus]

Dave, There has been no less than THREE thread started at www.nastyz28.com (http://www.nasty28.com.) Guys including myself are appalled, outraged, and shocked how this 71 Z-28 could get created with a 72/73 Grill, partial wrong wheels, wrong wheel color, wrong shift knob, wrong steering wheel, etc etc.

The seller has been aledged to have docs created and in this case the buyer fell for it hook, line and sinker, setting a record price all the while.

The rear spring situation has been recently discussed on nastyz28.

Wish you could restore my $100K 70 R/S Z-28

Chuck I corrected your link you forgot the Z and the end . was part of the link.

[rsatz28]

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Dave, There has been no less than THREE thread started at www.nasty28.com. (http://www.nasty28.com.) Guys including myself are appalled, outraged, and shocked how this 71 Z-28 could get created with a 72/73 Grill, partial wrong wheels, wrong wheel color, wrong shift knob, wrong steering wheel, etc etc.

The seller has been aledged to have docs created and in this case the buyer fell for it hook, line and sinker, setting a record price all the while.

The rear spring situation has been recently discussed on nastyz28.

Wish you could restore my $100K 70 R/S Z-28

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Nice.....send us to porn links http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif

Nasty Z28 (http://www.nastyz28.com/)

[CamarosRus]

Very Funny indeed.........lets try www.nastyz28.com (http://www.nastyz28.com)

[Mr. Chevy]

Should be an interesting day today on the auction block... See what overinflated, overpriced, and of course "all numbers match cars" will sell for tonite!!!!! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

Rich

[69hurstSC]

a 4brl Superbird for 200k is ridiculous!?! with over 2k units built that just killed the market on entry level Birds! looks like if you want to go aero than the Cyclone Spoilers and Talladegas are the way to go.

[njsteve]

I think they just liked the story with the smashed up nose cone. What was up with the Richard Petty autographed fender scoop? If you're gonna have a celebrity autograph something, you have them sign something that doesn't detract from the value of the car, like the air cleaner or glove box. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif

[COPO 70 RS/Z28]

I thought 50k was tall money

Man

I just wish prices were where more guys could get in the game. Lots of great car guys who feel real depressed after watching the BJ stuff

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[LT12NV]

I still can't believe that 71 Z either...It looks nice car(at least in the pictures), but hard to believe a non correct car could bring that..

[PPPJJJFFF]

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I still can't believe that 71 Z either...It looks nice car(at least in the pictures), but hard to believe a non correct car could bring that..

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An example of dumb money, no doubt!!

I thought the Stage 1 GSX did well at 150K. Car was not a frame off restoration! Just a stub up resto.

Patrick

[PPPJJJFFF]

I can only watch so many corvettes going thru the BJ auction. Gets old after a while. I was hoping to see the X go across the stage Friday night.

Second year in a row the X got blown off of coverage! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hmmm.gif

Patrick

[csx289]

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At 4;01 on Speed Tv the one, and only +++ Lilliard +++ show's up on big screen at the BJ show at the $71,000 H-Boy auction, I thought sure he was going to get it, but no sale...Hope you had a great time in talking the // other guy // to spend his money, and not your's " Wisely "....Kasey ..


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Hey Kasey,

That was me at $71k on the 32 Hiboy that sold for 72k...out of the 1500 cars out here that was the favorite of the lovely lady seated to my left when I was bidding. Don't think I will ever live the fact that I didn't "just keep bidding" down.In hindsight it would have been easier to buy it and not be told for the next 3 days that every car I looked at "wasn't as nice as that black '32 Ford" http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Colin

[HO455]

I really thought Warren Johnson's car would pull more than it did. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif Oh well-I still think it was a pretty cool car.

[kwhizz]

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At 4;01 on Speed Tv the one, and only +++ Lilliard +++ show's up on big screen at the BJ show at the $71,000 H-Boy auction, I thought sure he was going to get it, but no sale...Hope you had a great time in talking the // other guy // to spend his money, and not your's " Wisely "....Kasey ..


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Hey Kasey,

That was me at $71k on the 32 Hiboy that sold for 72k...out of the 1500 cars out here that was the favorite of the lovely lady seated to my left when I was bidding. Don't think I will ever live the fact that I didn't "just keep bidding" down.In hindsight it would have been easier to buy it and not be told for the next 3 days that every car I looked at "wasn't as nice as that black '32 Ford" http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Colin

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Collin.............Welcome to "PrincessLand".......LOL

Ken http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif

[Xplantdad]

Yep...pretty soon she'll have the purse, too! (sometimes that's a good thing!) http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[TimG]

What about the black '71 442 4 speed with air selling at $100,000. It was a non-W30 car. Pretty car, but lots of money.

[JRSully]

Too many 57 T-birds, too many E body Chryslers, too many Shelbys, too much chatchkee, gimmick junk with celebrities attached to it (robot, flying car, boats)Looks like most of the stuff they had last year went elsewhere this year. Laborious to watch, but unfortunately I did watch it. My .02

[sYc]

Hey Colin, which one of you was interested in the Monkee Mobile?

[Mr70]

Cmon swing Colin..you're Platinum! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

http://www.javelinamx.com/CarStars/monkee1.jpg