My .02 on Barrett-Jackson

[Charley Lillard]

All the way up to the start of this years auction I was a firm believer that this owuld be the last year they could pull off running all "No Reserve" cars. I thought the quality cars would go somewhere else and only lesser cars would be there. When their feature vehicle was Robosaurus I thought it was a joke.

After attending and looking at lots of quality cars and the prices they got for them I am amazed at just how wrong I was. If I had the money I would have owned Robosaurus. I would have dressed him up like Santa Claus at XMAS time and terrorized my town. It is a amazing piece of engineering. Barrett-Jackson is one huge party and a very good one at that. You don't have to have the best of the best cars. The auction had something for everyone. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[socaldodger]

How much did the Robosaurus go for?

[Late BrakeU2]

Like it or not it has become a tradition.It fits perfectly into the winter gap in Speeds line up,and serves as a platform to postion and promote speedweeks.They are smart inviting people like Robert Yates,Ray Everenham,T.S. etc as it attracts the crossover viewer market.Defintely the theatre of the absurd with the early stuff(i.e. pasta making 308 Fazazz and sewer sucking RR on Dayton's) but they made ya laugh all the same.Looked like more than a few cars were bought that could be sold higher elsewhere..

My only problem is the amount of commercials,and the heavy Ford overtones courtesy the homer with the shades.They can't show every car and have to pay bills but it sure looked choreograhed to cut away whenever possible when GM cars were up.Personally think they should make it a three day event with longer hours-would save the consignors and bidders quite a bit on incidentals.All said it is a great event,something for every one..but if I ever sell there it will be down the street.

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[Steve Shauger]

I think around $500K

[Canuck]

I agree with Charlie. I expected this year to be down. In some cases prices were, but the quality and documented cars got their price. A few jokes were thrown in (General Lee).
I also felt BJ management responded to the feedback they were receiving and took a page from the lawsuit and made some changes.
Watching it on TV was a little painfull with all the advertisments, but that is how the bills get paid.
BTW, does Craig say anything other that "way under the money".
Kudos to Bruce and Sam for the photo coverage. I will be there next year.

[kwhizz]

After being there this year and seeing the Vague and or "Creative" wording being used.....It's pretty obvious that Re-creation or Clone cars are getting to be more of the norm........The Oregon Plated cars seem to get away with it over the years, so the "Standard" of what's deemed ethical has so of gone to the Wayside........Now......Most of the People on this Site are Smart enough to sort thru the cars and know what's going on........But.....The average person going there that get's caught up in the Feeding Frenzy (Buying) and T.V. Camera's (Hype) are not as Sophisticated as you guy's are.....and are probably looking at the car for the First time when it hit's the Block under all those Light's and look's like a Perfect car from 100' away........That's the way it "IS"......Like it or Not.....the "Made" Cars are now a Part of this Cycle and the Oregon Guy probably doesn't care what we or anyone else thinks about what is going on.......and besides, a lot of people don't care if the cars are real or not........They just want it........"And" it's there......

Ken

[SOM2001SS]

So is Westworld upping the rent and is BJ moving to Las Vegas in the near future? I wouldn't be surprised.

[Mr70]

"I also felt BJ management responded to the feedback they were receiving and took a page from the lawsuit and made some changes."

Can anyone elaborate on this?
I'm curious to know what changed this year because of this.

[rsatz28]

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"I also felt BJ management responded to the feedback they were receiving and took a page from the lawsuit and made some changes."


Can anyone elaborate on this?
I'm curious to know what changed this year because of this.

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To me, as a casual observer, it's seems like they went out of their way not to put the hammer down on the bidding.

[169indy]

I think we heard the term 'Well Bought'- "Quite Often" at this years event http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif

"under the Money"
"You can't restore one of these at this price"

Fun to watch.

Jim

[njsteve]

Did anybody count how many 55-57 T-birds were featured on the coverage? It was just ridiculous. They would cut away from much more interesting cars just to arrange their TV coverage around those old Ford 2-doors. So what if it was the only 57 T-bird made in Metallic Fleshtone with matching virulent, pus-colored interior. They are boring, old cars.

I never saw what the green 70 Hemi Charger went for. And what was up with the tan 70 Hemicuda going for $140K. There's gotta be a story behind that sale!

[Mr. Chevy]

I basically think the whole thing is a musclecar/old & new car circus, "dog & pony show"!! It is entertaining to watch and thats about it!! Most of it is http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bs.gif

You would have to be a real idiot to pay those prices for some of that stuff!! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif

Rich

[62BT409]

Along with the prices this year are down 20% -33%. But it always seems BJ sets the pricing standard.....which IMO should not be that way. The people should set the pricing standard

[Chateau Slate 66]

I thought that Spanky has lost his touch a bit. Many times he had to stop and find his bidder. He even had to back up several thousand dollars and start over a few times. The other auctioneers didn't seem to have that problem.

I also think the lawsuit at least influenced things. The hammer was held for a long time and many times the auctioneers looked around and said "we don't want any mistakes!"

[62BT409]

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I thought that Spanky has lost his touch a bit. Many times he had to stop and find his bidder. He even had to back up several thousand dollars and start over a few times. The other auctioneers didn't seem to have that problem.

I also think the lawsuit at least influenced things. The hammer was held for a long time and many times the auctioneers looked around and said "we don't want any mistakes!"

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I felt at a few times they (Spanky) was influenced by the bidder's assistant to drop the hammer too soon....just a few times

[jds353]

for one old timer. it sure left a bad taste to watch. a lot of screwups and bad timing. some of the early cars loooked like they where ran a cross the block.

[chevelleheart]

Actually , another car I'd be interested in your thoughts on the White L78 Chevelle Convertible that sold. It too wasn't good enough to get on TV,( I was dying to see it)Any of you guys who were there, I'd love to hear your thoughts on the car. Real Deal ? good car ??? Thx Bob

[ss427copo]

Well, given the fact that ALL the personel with B-J are CAR SALEMEN, (no disrespect to the lady) that kinda says it all; http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif and in the final analysis, that is the bottom line. "Mr. Hollywood", http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif who never took his sunglesses off the entire week made plenty of sales pitches and whenever Craig Jackson said "this is WAAAYYY under the market", all I said was B.S.! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

[x Baldwin Motion]

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Did anybody count how many 55-57 T-birds were featured on the coverage? It was just ridiculous. They would cut away from much more interesting cars just to arrange their TV coverage around those old Ford 2-doors. So what if it was the only 57 T-bird made in Metallic Fleshtone with matching virulent, pus-colored interior . They are boring, old cars....



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virulent;

Main Entry: vir·u·lent
Pronunciation: \ˈvir-ə-lənt, ˈvir-yə-\
Function: adjective
Etymology: Middle English, from Latin virulentus, from virus poison
Date: 14th century
1 a: marked by a rapid, severe, and destructive course <a virulent infection> b: able to overcome bodily defensive mechanisms : markedly pathogenic <virulent bacteria>
2: extremely poisonous or venomous
3: full of malice : malignant <virulent racists>
4: objectionably harsh or strong <virulent criticism>
— vir·u·lent·ly adverb

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gifAm I the only one that will admit to looking this up? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gifthanks Steve! another valuable sYc lesson. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif

[njsteve]

Just doing my part to raise the collective IQ of our members.

Of course, I had to check with my 12 year old on how to spell "IQ"

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[Z-11 396]

Robosaurus I thought it was a joke.

. If I had the money I would have owned Robosaurus. I would have dressed him up like Santa Claus at XMAS time and terrorized my town. It is a amazing piece of engineering. Barrett-Jackson is one huge party and a very good one at that. You don't have to have the best of the best cars. The auction had something for everyone. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

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+++ Lilliard +++ That Little <<< RED MINI-Mobile +++ you bought, would /// Terrorize /// The whole town, and state for that matter, and you don't have to dress it up, it's already Santa Claus *** RED ***.. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif...Kasey

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[JTH74]

I agree with Charley about the cars @ Barrett Jacksos there was some very nice stuff there, original,concept,one off, and resto-mod, but just from the pics posted on this site it looks like Russo and Steele had some very top notch muscle cars, the only thing I don't agree with was Craig Jackson bidding on non-charity items, i.e. Robosaurus, because after Craig bid $450K and the bid wouldn't move after that they were not going to quit working it until it did, and Craig had a look of concern on his face about taking Robosaurus home, but as far as Craig bidding on charity cars and raising money for charities with no sale fees involved, then there is no conflict of interest that I can see there, just my .02 cents, maybe I am wrong.

[SS427]

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If I had the money I would have owned Robosaurus. I would have dressed him up like Santa Claus at XMAS time and terrorized my town. It is a amazing piece of engineering.

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I am surprised you or LV did not buy that military version of the motorhome especially for the low dollar that thing went for. Less than a conventional motorhome. You could have used it for party central at some of the shows and Steve would have been the envy of all his friends on the next Elk hunt! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

[Lee Weber]

Charlie et all:
Not ever have been a BJ attendee - I have a question. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hmmm.gif I was shooting the bull today with a car affecinado and we talked about the BJ results. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif One bit of trivia I heard a TV commentator site is the # of cars that were on the docket last year (07), and then were back again this year (08) - like that cuda that lost over a hundredK from last years auction. Anyway...one questions that came up:
What percentage of the cars are actually "bought" and exchnage owners?? The presumption is many cars are "bought" by the current owners (still have to pay taxes and applicable fees). http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif I don't know, that's why I'm asking. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/scholar.gif

[ANDY M]

Does "Well Bought" mean that the seller got screwed? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif
IMO, since Ford was the dominant sponsor, it is not surprising that other brands were given less screen time. You don't bite the hand that feeds you. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/scholar.gif

Also, some of the cars that Craig Jackson said were under the money WERE under the money. There were numerous hot rods, resto mods and some admitedly incorrect retorations, like the yellow Shelby Mustang, that sold for less than what it would have cost to put them together.
The '68 and '69 Camaro resto mods cost the sellers a bunch of money to build, and they both sold for half of that.
As Jay Leno said about himself, being the president of the "More Money than Brains Club", some guys always end up upside down on their pet projects, and get their lunch handed to them. How many time has it been discussed that $100k was invested to restore a car worth $75k? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
jmho

[ANDY M]

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If I had the money I would have owned Robosaurus. I would have dressed him up like Santa Claus at XMAS time and terrorized my town. It is a amazing piece of engineering.

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I am surprised you or LV did not buy that military version of the motorhome especially for the low dollar that thing went for. Less than a conventional motorhome. You could have used it for party central at some of the shows and Steve would have been the envy of all his friends on the next Elk hunt! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

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That battle ready RV went for $50k! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif
That thing will get you some respect at the next tail gate party you go to. I can see that thing in the Lambo parking lot with a plume of brat smoke over it. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[SS427]

I thought it went for CONSIDERABLY less than that.... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif At $50k, it was still a pretty good deal considering how well equipped it was. Best part about it was if you hunted Minnesota, you would be ok from all the errant bullets that fly around here during season and with the bullet proof armor, you would be fine. That is why I don't hunt here anymore. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif

[Hylton]

I agree about the commercials. Saw enough of that red Mustang commercial to know what the underside of one of those look like with my eyes closed. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif

[Charley Lillard]

I'm guessing that over 95% of the cars went to new owners. Some cars that show up the next year are probaly brought back to sell because they bought it under the influence and then woke up, maybe think they are gonna make money, tired of the POS etc. I don't think there was any planning on what cars to exclude from TV coverage by going to commercial breaks. They have no need to do that. As fo r "under the money" etc..It is a auction and that is what happens at auctions. There are great deals and there are stupid deals.

[musclecarjohn]

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If I had the money I would have owned Robosaurus...

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OK...who ya kidding Charlie? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif

[69LM1]

OK, I was wrong as well. I thought things would be worse than they were.

As far as Ford is concerned, hey, they ponied up the sponser $$. IMO, yet another lost opp. by GM, and yet again even the Dodge is getting more coverage than the new Camaro.

[budnate]

Robosaurus has to be seen up close to really appreciate how cool it is, watching it on tv it looks hokey see it in person and watch it work is another deal I was right under it at night spitting flames etc..fricken cool toy!!!

I think the guy said he has been running it for 18yrs? pretty trick piece today unreal to think how to build today let alone back then.

as far as the bidding went it they looked around the room and asked if anyone wanted in on a car pretty nice of BJ if you ask me and as it should be, no exscuse for not bidding unless you went for a walk, they worked pretty much every rig to death trying to get more money for it, falls under it is what is kind of thing.

over all its a real fun time and lots of cool cars for sale at the auctions and around town, mark your calendar for next year and Get R Done, plus you can always harass Charlie if you get bored, http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif.

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[WILMASBOYL78]

BJ is definately a show....people, cars, pretty girls, excitement and so forth. I have come to look at it as the official start of the "car year"...kind of like Xmas shopping starts the day after Thanksgiving http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif It gives us all a lot to talk about and haggle over....and it gives Bruce and Sam a chance to hone their photography skills http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif It may be reality to some but for me it's just an interesting diversion from the snow in the driveway and the cars I can't drive for another 3 months I really like those "auction girls"...they could have their own show called "Fender Skirts" http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif


wilma...wishing I was in a sand trap with Tibor http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hmmm.gif

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[Charley Lillard]

GM was there with their own room with new cars on display also. They gave great coverage to the new ZR1 Vette with Leno giving it a great intro.
Robosaurus is a engineering marvel. I spoke to the guy for awhile. They have traveled everywhere with it doing shows and it even has standing bookings if the new owner wants to make money with it. It was reverse engineered to fold itself into a 48' trailer footprint that is 13.5' tall. The 5th wheel pin is under it's chin. You just tow it down the road like you would any other big rig trailer.

[RM Schimel]

I thought it was a very good time. Had great fun attending the auctions. Lots to see and do!!

[Jeff H]

I thought the car market would be pretty strong considering the stock market and real estate situation. It didn't seem like as many $300-600K cars but a lot more cars into solid money like the $60-120K range. Looks like some strong numbers at R&S as well.

[Les Quam]

Kind of a pity it seems to me that what many consider to be the worlds premier classic car collector auction is defined by Robosarous and that on prime time Saturday viewers and attendees were subjected to actor/singer powerhouse John Schnider standing on top of his column shift Charger. It really is more a show or event now than it is a place astute collectors go to buy and sell significant muscle.

It seems to me that Mecum is now the only auction house where you can buy/ sell and look at truly significant muscle.

Another issue entirely is Charleys fixation with Robosaurous. Our fearless leader the owner of the vaunted supersnake and a ZL-1 among other rare muscle is now openly lusting after what amounts to be an overgrown fire breathing toy for about a half a million. I guess when you dabble in three million dollar Mustangs a half million dollar toy robot is chump change. LOL LOL

Me, I am going to Mecum's spring auction to see Dave C's. collection get sold off. Dave has more significant muscle in his shop then BJ had all week IMHO.

[NCGuy68]

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Robosaurus has to be seen up close to really appreciate how cool it is, watching it on tv it looks hokey see it in person and watch it work is another deal I was right under it at night spitting flames etc..fricken cool toy!!!

I think the guy said he has been running it for 18yrs? pretty trick piece today unreal to think how to build today let alone back then. http://www.yenko.net/attachments/313340-ATT00314.jpg

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I first saw Robosaurus in the twilight years ago at the Spring Autofair in Charlotte. A very impressive sight to say the least!

[southernfriedcj]

Am I the only one that thinks a 10% buyer's and a 10% seller's premium is over the top? On a 100K gavel that means the car was sold for $90,000 and bought for $110,000. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif It was stated that internet bidders paid a 12% premium.

[x Baldwin Motion]

I thought it was 10% buyer and 8% seller, either way it was no wonder Mr. Jackson was laughing every time that gavel slammed down!! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ $$$$$$$$

[Ngtflyr]

If you consider yourself a car nut, and I'm guessing most of you do. Do yourself a favor and come out to see it in person. I've been thru several years of auctions now and consider myself fortunate to be able to drive 30 minutes and be at ground zero. There is so much to do and see. BJ is huge, I was there the day before Robosauraus sold, it was just something over in the corner, hardly gave it a look. Last time I was there was 4 or 5 years ago and thought it was huge then, I bet it's 5 times as big now, maybe not in the number of cars but the sideshows, covered tent space, and attendence. There are thousands of cars to see between, BJ, RM, Silver, Russo Steele, Kruse, and others I don't even pay attention to, oh and of course go to the Pavillions on Saturday, and this year Christenholtz's. Unless you've been there you can't fully comprehend it, most of the big events are 10 minutes apart so you can take in Russo Steele, BJ and the Pavillions in one day, but you better have your roller skates on. There are so many top notch cars you can't possibly evaluate them all, it's impossible. And I am just talking about the miniscule slice of the market I know something about. BJ's is a circus, from junk to the best of the best and a bunch of side shows to boot, Russo and Steele has the best if you are a pure muscle car enthusiest, the pavillions draws a huge number of cars, a lot of the really cool high dollar cars aren't there because their owners are to absorbed in the auctions but I would stack up whats there anyway against pretty much any public "free" car show. I was glad to go back to work last nite so I could rest. I agree that to the purist BJs is not what we would like it to be but who can blame Craig Jackson, he is pulling in money from so many directions it's incredible, he's smarter than a lot of people give him credit. I wouldn't be surprised if the buyers and sellers commissions are less than 25% of the overall take. So start planning your trip and saving your pennies and see it for yourself. It really is the Mecca of Musclecars. BTW, BJ isn't moving to Vegas, they are creating another auction for Vegas which is very appropriate considering the kind of show it is. BJs has purchased land from Scottsdale finally and will be building permanent buildings on site to replace some of the tents.

[Charley Lillard]

Did they buy the Westworld site ?

[Yankit]

It sold for $575K which is the same price the RCR 69 Camaro sold for, there no question which I'd rather have given the choice......

[Les Quam]

I can't blame Craig Jackson. I blame Charley, it's guys like him drooling over that robo-thing and being a John Schnieder groupie that caused all this?

Although if I was king of BJ world I would bring back the reserve, which would bring back the significant and historic cars and dump the boats, robots and washed up celebrities and their crappy cars. Why does Goldbergs clone HEMI cuda CV get a prime Saturday night spot? Because he is Jackson's buddy? The car is an average quality clone and gets prime Saturday night? Is the quality of the cars so weak a boat gets a prime Saturday night spot along with a Cuda clone and general Lee made up car?

Last Mecum auction I went to I was talking to Arnie Beswick as he stood next to one of his historic race cars that was for sale. At BJ you get a robot, Goldberg and a dukes of Hazzard guy. Tells you everything you need to know about the state of BJ IMHO. Tells you everything you need to know about Mecum and his respect for muscle history that he puts the historic drag cars and their drivers front and center. BJ thinks John Schnieder is an important piece of automotive history and Mecum thinks Arnie Beswick is? Enough said.

[southernfriedcj]

Do the auctions have "cars for sale" corrals for people that want to name their price and not send their car across the block? If so which ones?

[PhilS]

I wish Charley had bought Robosuarus. He could charge admission to watch it chomp on the Isetta he bought at Russo. Those two machines are truly diametrically opposed. As for the auctions, I spent less time at B-J than ever before so It's hard for me to say but I did sell 2 cars at Russo and was treated very well. I would never have gotten that much time on the block at B-J. They really worked for their money.

[Paul_S]

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif Like a Mouse to an Elephant!

[Ngtflyr]

BJ does have a "car corral" but you may not be able to name your price. A friend wanted to put his highly documented CE block LS6 El Camino in it and was told it was not worth the reserve he set. He was told it was a $40K car, needless to say it didn't go there.

[Ngtflyr]

Rumour is that they bought either part of Westworld or some adjacent property with plans to put in some permanent buildings. Of course a couple years ago I heard they were pulling up stakes and moving the whole thing out to the Cardinals stadium in Glendale. That was probably a negotiating ploy with the city of Scottsdale.

[427rcode]

IF YOU TAKE YOUR CAR THERE AND IT IS A REAL QUALITY CAR,YOUR TAKING A CRAP SHOOT THAT THE HAMMER MIGHT COME DOWN VERY QUICK TO A INSIDER.RUSSO AND STEELE IS PICKING UP STEAM AND IS GOING TO BE A HEADACHE FOR B-J.THE CARS ARE NICE,THE ATMOSPHERE IS GREAT,HE FEEDS YOU,AND THE AUCTION IS FUN,AND MOST OF ALL THE PRICES ARE A LOT BETTER IF YOU ARE A BUYER

[black69]

My wife watched some of this with me on the speed channel, and she reminded me over and over again how stupid stupid stupid I would have been if I sold my solid axle vettes and my big block vette to go down the tunnel vision mopar path I was on 2 yrs ago. My 2 71 cudas are in the crapper as far a value drop (cool colors and all), the 69 camaro is fine, the vettes are still fine, and thank god the one hemi I got is luckily NOT an eBody. If anything, I learned you never know what is hot from year to year, its always a guess. If you have to have more than one car, make sure you are diversified (like stocks) and you really like what you got (because tomorrow it could fall like a rock). Thats what I get out of the tv circus (razzing from my wife telling me she was right).

I have gotten approval to get a big block nova (69) as long as I sell something 'mopar', while watching this with her. So......hum....

[mockingbird812]

Most things in life are cyclic. Muscle cars (corvettes too) are no exception. The MoPars will come back in time. But if you are in a hurry, this is little consolation.

[427king]

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Most things in life are cyclic.

[/ QUOTE ] Belairs height[or lack thereof] is constant however. He will always be short.Anyone seen or heard from the little bugger lately???? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

[x Baldwin Motion]

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Most things in life are cyclic.

[/ QUOTE ] Belairs height[or lack thereof] is constant however. He will always be short.Anyone seen or heard from the little bugger lately???? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

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he was last seen here (http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=0&Board=Othermuscle&Number=313336 &Searchpage=1&Main=312354&Words=+Belair62&topic=&S earch=true#Post313336)just a few days ago.

[Johnny Horsepower]

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My wife watched some of this with me on the speed channel, and she reminded me over and over again how stupid stupid stupid I would have been if I sold my solid axle vettes and my big block vette to go down the tunnel vision mopar path I was on 2 yrs ago. My 2 71 cudas are in the crapper as far a value drop (cool colors and all), the 69 camaro is fine, the vettes are still fine, and thank god the one hemi I got is luckily NOT an eBody. If anything, I learned you never know what is hot from year to year, its always a guess. If you have to have more than one car, make sure you are diversified (like stocks) and you really like what you got (because tomorrow it could fall like a rock). Thats what I get out of the tv circus (razzing from my wife telling me she was right).

I have gotten approval to get a big block nova (69) as long as I sell something 'mopar', while watching this with her. So......hum....

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What a thread. Couple of "opinions" .........
1.As Charlie said, I thought robosaurus was such a stupid idea. I was wrong. It was 1 of over 1200 lots and it was really cool. My son has not taken his robosaurus shirt off since I returned. (he watched it all weekend with my wife)
I'll say it again it was 1 lot and a tremendous attraction that everyone who saw it in person was amazed.
2. I have attended BJ etc. for 7 consecutive years. It is an experience which centers around an auction. I don't like it as much as I used to and would like to see the reserve return and with it the return of real cars. But it is an enjoyable time for a car guy and a chance to be with like minded friends (and maybe have a libation). I have to watch tivo to see the cars because you are so busy with everything else, other auctions included, that I see maybe %10 of the cars and I was only at R&S, which I have always enjoyed, for a few hours.
3. As far as the above quote; personally, I buy what I like and drive them. Yes they have to be original motored correct cars but I still own what I like. I like Fords, but not enough to give up space for one. If I was buying like a stock, I would have gotten long Shelby's years ago. So I have ridden my Hemicuda up and back down as far as value goes, but nothing replaces the s**t eating grin on my face everytime I nail it and feel the second 4 barrel open up.

Do I follow the market? Yea you have to. But I really follow my heart and it liked GTOs, camaros and cudas etc 20 years ago and it still does now. Just now you have to be more carefull.

$.02
JOHN

[Les Quam]

"BJ an experience that centers around an auction." Well said Johnny HP.

[Johnny Horsepower]

[ QUOTE ]
"BJ an experience that centers around an auction." Well said Johnny HP.

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We have more in common than you think Les, I forgot to mention that I am a huge fan of Mecum and have attended thier auctions without fail for close to a decade. First one I went to (the old Alrington) was my third date with my wifehttp://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[Charley Lillard]

That's when she should have dumped you.

[Xplantdad]

[ QUOTE ]
That's when she should have dumped you.

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That Lillard guy has a way with words...doesn't he? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[rich p]

Its a RollerCoaster ride !! Thrills & Frills http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

A wave that some cars can get caught into and ride the High Price wave and then the wave dies(Monster Garage etc)and people walked away. If your lucky to get in the momentum when cars are selling, they walked away happy. Cars that followed usually took a hit.
I think they really worked the cars this year. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

One of the Best car shows,auctions in the world,great entertainment with CARS,BABES,and BOOZE.

There is an A*S for every seat and if you dont do your home work, so be it..

I call it The Good,Bad and the Ugly !! If you know this you will have a a great time with over 2,000+ cars ALL over AZ in that one week. Got to love it !!

Just my 5cents !!

Its still better then sitting in some parking lot bored in an hour.

Hey its even OK to pick on cars while you are there http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif

[Xplantdad]

It was nice to see you Rich! You are right...where else can you go for ~ $10 (on the early days of the auction) and get free parking...free tram/bus ride to the door...and end up with more than $10 worth of catalogs/giveaways etc?

Plus...as a bonus...you get to see a bunch of cool cars...and some really crazy people http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[SS427]

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Plus...as a bonus...you get to see...some really crazy people http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

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eh-hum Like.....these two maybe.....?


http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n300/ricknelson427/CharleyStefano2008BJ.jpg

[Xplantdad]

Yep... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[fpcopo]

Chevelle Heart,

We bought the L78 vert for $167K. It is going to Omaha for a new museum. It looks to be a real car with build sheets and other docs. I haven't crawled all over it yet to see what all the part numbers are but it looks good so far. We also bought the fathom green Yenko Camaro that was Ron Wilhelm's and Stefano's red Yenko Chevelle. Frank

[Steve Drueck]

The white L78 Chevelle Conv is the former Jim Bukovic car. Just talked to him today. Orig drivetrain car. I think he sold it for $10k back in the day ...lol.....when we were kids....

[Mr70]

The white L-78 Convt. once belonged to Mr.B too.

[427king]

Which L78 convert has a photocopy of the buildsheet because a prior owner wouldnt give up the original? It was back about 7/8 years ago when it sold. I thought it was either a black or white car..

[showyourauto]

I spotted Charlie, Stephano (tell your butt to stop calling me, especially while I'm fending off the homeless) and a few others. Wished I had visted with more of you, spent half a day at the Pavillions and most of my time a Russo Steele.

Saw Charlie at the 'Mecum Preview'- telling his Robosaurus joke to anyone who would listen. Funny thing was, I really didn't know if Charlie was joking or not. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

This was the first year I brought my dad. He walked in and said "Is this the Arizona State Fair, or an auction?" Dad had it right- came away with "BJ is a county fair caught cross-breeding with a casino while a car auction videotapes the act."

Dad found a brown '64 Sport Fury at R&S similar to one he "made a few dollars drag-racing with" during his high school days. Overall, time well spent with the old man. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

Keep the Hobby Fun!

~Patrick Krook

[showyourauto]

[ QUOTE ]
...is BJ moving to Las Vegas in the near future? I wouldn't be surprised.

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Isn't that where most tired acts migrate too once they've overstayed their time in the limelight?

[Canuck]

Perspective offered by a friend:

Some interesting stats from the BJ:



2008 - sold 1,167 cars, boats, trucks, dinosaurs etc for a total of $88 mil and had 280,000 attendees .



2007- sold 1,270 for a total of $112 mil with 250,000 attendees.



In 2008 sold 8% fewer cars for 27% less money. On a per vehicle sale basis about 15% less year over year (from an average of $88,200 in 2007 to $75,400 in 2008)



Fewer big dollar cars in the $1mil+ range, no Ferrari boy? Early onset recession? Average sale price was $75,400 this year - hardly chump change.

He is a Exec VP at a big brokerage firm,so I guess he had some time on is hands this week, or it was done by his analysis department.

[sixtiesmuscle]

All of those stats were in this morning's Scottsdale paper, along with the statement that B-J & Scottsdale are close to reaching a 4-5 year agreement to keep the auction there. Gooding & Co. sold about 70 cars for 21 mil in their first AZ. auction. R&S sold about 61% of 500 cars to cross the block for a total of 19.8 mil.

I'd say the overall auction results were very strong.

[Canucklehead]

So ferrari hat guy wasent there. If i hired him as a personal buyer for a collection he would have been fired long ago. That guy just wanted his 5 min of fame and did'nt seem to care to much how he spent someone elses money. I noticed that alot of the past big time guys were not there or at least were not seen on camera.

[Johnny Horsepower]

[ QUOTE ]
So ferrari hat guy wasent there. If i hired him as a personal buyer for a collection he would have been fired long ago. That guy just wanted his 5 min of fame and did'nt seem to care to much how he spent someone elses money. I noticed that alot of the past big time guys were not there or at least were not seen on camera.

[/ QUOTE ]

Don't worry about Ferrari guy not being on camera becuase there is a guy the last few years that has more than made up for it. Who can tell me who this is? He wears the same shirt or style of shirt every year. He is around and or looking in the camera almost all of primetime. And he occasionally bids a safe/steal amount on a middle to lower priced car. He drives me NUTS when I watch my tivo after I come home. Its one thing to be a moron with your cell phone pretending to look in an engine compartment to be on tv once, but this TOOL is there ALL THE TIME. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbsdown.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbsdown.gif

Do you guys that watched know who I am talking about?

[Xplantdad]

It wasn't me...I promise...LOL http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

I don't know who you are talking about though? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hmmm.gif

[BUIZILLA]

giraffe shirt.... ??

[Hylton]

Light blue shirt? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

[Johnny Horsepower]

[ QUOTE ]
Light blue shirt? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

I'll give you all a big hint.................. "4"

(you can look at last years too, its almost the same shirt!)

[showyourauto]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Light blue shirt? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

I'll give you all a big hint.................. "4"

(you can look at last years too, its almost the same shirt!)

[/ QUOTE ]

Perhaps it's his "success uniform"...you know [chanting] "Im good enough, smart enough, and darn it- people like this shirt!" http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

[sixtiesmuscle]

"Bentley Man". I wonder if he really plays polo.

What do I win?

[SBR]

I think that he either owns or works for Bentley of Long Island.

[Late BrakeU2]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Plus...as a bonus...you get to see...some really crazy people http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

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eh-hum Like.....these two maybe.....?




http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n300/ricknelson427/CharleyStefano2008BJ.jpg

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His old Takegawa monster monkey would look great next to the Izeta-hey Charlie it's on ebay right now http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a147/LateBrakeU2/takegawamonkey-1.jpg

[rubbinisracing]

Whats wrong Johnny HP you don't like my choice of clothes....

[RamAirDave]

If an Isetta is good enough for Urkel, then its good enough for Chuck http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif


http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b217/RamAirDave/Random/UrIsetta4.jpg

His HotRod version:

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b217/RamAirDave/Random/UrIsetta.jpg

[Johnny Horsepower]

[ QUOTE ]
"Bentley Man". I wonder if he really plays polo.

What do I win?

(SBR) I think that he either owns or works for Bentley of Long Island.


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DING DING DING! Mike and Steve both win. And I do think he has at least a piece of Bentley Long Island, which means he is probably wealthy enough to not do what he does at BJ, unless he's a tool!

Mike you win at least a month in AZ
Steve you win at least a month at the CBOT

I win my sanity back, in that someone else sees this jamoke!

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[Dog427435]

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If I had the money I would have owned Robosaurus. I would have dressed him up like Santa Claus at XMAS time and terrorized my town. It is a amazing piece of engineering.

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http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t114/dog427435/Super%20Chevy/photos/r1.jpg
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[Charley Lillard]

Ha !!!!!

[ASTROJET]

Damn,that's Bubba's Caddy!!

[nuch_ss396]

Seeing as how Ford sponsored this years B-J auction, how
funny would it have been to see Robosaurus smoke a Mustang
or other Ford icon? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Was it just chomping on GM cars this year? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif


BTW, I heard that Reggie Jackson was seen @ B-J this year,
but sold his cars in another auction farther west. Any
truth to this? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif If so, what's the story there?

Nuch

[Charley Lillard]

Reggie was selling cars at Barrett-Jackson

[L78M22Rag]

This was my first time to BJ, and after spending about half a day wandering through the outside tents looking at hundreds of cars... I had to look long and hard to find those that I'd want in my garage. Unfortunately, many of the cars at BJ appeared to be just slapped together in a hurry to get to the auction. Yes, they had some NICE cars roped-off in the exclusive tent inside, but a small percentage out of their 1200 or so cars. I'm not surprized that prices were down for most of the cars... and the guys that came with big $$$ and an empty trailer ended up fighing over the few good cars and driving some prices up higher than expected. I think the lack of quality was a reflection of the no reserve. Hats off to those few brave souls that brought a genuine high-dollar car and signed over the title without a reserve.

The next day I went to Russo and Steele and... after a half a day of looking I barely made it down one row of cars. Nearly every car was worth stopping and having a very close look. Overall, I thought the R&S cars were very high quality.

Then... seeing the Christenholz collection nearly blew my mind! Nice cars there!!!

I hope I didn't offend anyone... just my two bits.

I saw Reggie at Russo and Steele on Friday night. In fact, I believe he was selling a car there.

[m22mike]

Helmut
Last year was my first BJ auction, had a great time, it is a must for a car guy to treat yourself at least once.
I noticed the same thing as you did about the quality of cars there in 06, auction could have been trimmed to 600 cars and you would not have to see so many very average http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bs.gif cars.
The no reserve still scares me ! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif
Sounds like you had a good time, hope you made it to the Pavillion's, last it a must see.

Mike

[L78M22Rag]

You bet I made it to the Pavillions. I was stunned!

I think the my reaction to BJ is just because its so watered down. If BJ had fewer cars like R&S, it would have been as good as R&S... I hope Russo and Steele stays just the way it is!