Details 1969 396 375hp SS Nova 19,538 miles

[brgrman]

I did not post all the details on the car there was to much to tell. When anyone called this is what the condition of the car is. Originally bought in Oak Park IL out of Brigance Cheverolet sold by big "ED" himself.The 1st owner work as a service tech at the dealership, 6 weeks old he pulled the motor and trans out and sold it to his neighbor 8 houses away from his house. He still has the original motor today in Oak Park IL. The original trans is sold to a man in Barrington IL and he still has the original trans today. The original rear end is out of the car in my garage. The motor now in the car is a 1968 427 L-88 from a 1968 Corvette that came into the dealership for service for a knock sound, the 1st owner, then a service tech at the dealership, said it was a carbon knock that he fixed,but told the Vette owner it was blown so he then took the motor for himself and put it in his 1969 SS Nova when it was weeks old! The 1st owner lettered the car "Chevy Tuff II" and street raced the car on Harlem Ave in Oak Park IL since new. Thats why the car only has 19,500 miles on it. The condition of the orginal body is in original show condition, ZERO rust anywhere you look. Never hit! The interior is original 9 out of 10 condition,looks like never sat in seats. The carpet is the only replaced part inside cause he had a bolted in roll bar for show (2 bolts per post, not welded) The car was perfectly painted once in lacquer for the price of $18,000(have the receipt) cause of the hot rod lettering on the body panels. The 1st owner sold the car to his alley car buddy neighbor 2 houses away in Oak Park in the 80's and that is where the car is today. The engine compartment is in show condition I'll post picture from Saturdays pick up. Underneath is as good as the top. Just go drive or show the car, just needs Sunoco 110 race gas for the 560hp 12.5 comp 427 engine.

Again Thanks
Brgrman

[Charley Lillard]

Wow...cool

[Schonyenko2]

Damn "D". You didn't tell me all those details. Is this the same one Frankie used to talk about?

[427.060]

Sounds like a nice car. Can the original engine and transmssion be bought? What about the rearend you have, does it go with the car?
James

[hvychev]

Wow!! I live a stones throw away from Oak Park in Berwyn which it shares a border with! I have never heard of this car. PLEASE post some pics when you get a chance. What is the original owners name? I have done TONS of research on Brigance and Mr. Ed and maybe have heard of the guy especially if he worked there.

Who bought the car....wait I have a guess....at least I hope it was him! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif

[1969l78]

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[brgrman]

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Wow!! I live a stones throw away from Oak Park in Berwyn which it shares a border with! I have never heard of this car. PLEASE post some pics when you get a chance. What is the original owners name? I have done TONS of research on Brigance and Mr. Ed and maybe have heard of the guy especially if he worked there.

The original owner on the dealers paper work was Merritt M. Lovett from 841 n. Kenilworth st. Oak Park IL and Mr."Ed" was the salesman that sold the car. Thats what on the dealers paper work.

Who bought the car....wait I have a guess....at least I hope it was him! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif

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[brgrman]

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Wish you would have let me come see it since i asked you about 3 times on thursday morning before 8:00 am. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif You kept asking me why didn't I want to pull the trigger on it over the phone, and I said since i live only 25 miles from you I would have to see it before I buy it over the phone. You where supposed to call me and give me a time. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif O well thanks for nothing

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You said you" wanted to see the car this week end or before the other people come for the car this Sat." I told you about the very serious buyers committed to come out this weekend from Ohio, TX and Pa. I knew that who ever will see the car first will buy it. To good of a car a real deal car. I never ever ask anyone to pull a trigger, I just tell them how serious the condition of the car being sold. I'm sorry if you took it the wrong way. I guess if you wanted to really buy the car you would have told me I'll be there today like the buyer of the car did, he's also a local person. What do they say" if you snooze" I forgot the rest.
But the good news is the guy who bought the car wanted other parts that came with the car and the 427 Corvette motor. He told me he thinks he will sell the car after he pulls the motor out.

[brgrman]

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Sounds like a nice car. Can the original engine and transmssion be bought? What about the rearend you have, does it go with the car?
James

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I know where they are. The new owner of the car is going to pursue it very heavily he said. Yes the rear end goes with the car.

[1969l78]

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[brgrman]

Everyone is asking who bought the car.
John P. out of West Chicago IL bought the car.

[brgrman]

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Thats fine I know what I said and you can say whatever you want, I know the truth. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbsdown.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bs.gif

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I guess my truth is different than your truth. Any one can say anything on these posts ,but actions speak louder than words.

[1969l78]

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[brgrman]

You actions speak for themselves it sound like you are very sour you didn't jump on this car. It's always the case when your looking at something and scared to make a move, but when some one else with knowledge and balls makes a move, any one can cry foul. I should of guessed when I seen your post looking for a real deal Nova and I sent you a message First on Wed and you dragged your feet and that you have been looking and passing on cars for such a long time,I should of known that I was playing in the minor leagues.

[sixtiesmuscle]

Everybody should just take a deep breath. The car is sold to a great member here who was ready & willing to act quickly. IMO, the initial ad & explanation could have been handled better, but, the "stuff" flying back and forth post sale does no good for anyone.

[brgrman]

I'm in the restaurant business and my rule is first come first serve!

[brgrman]

Yes I could of posted a very detailed post the first time and it would of been less typing if I just would of done that. I try to type as less as possible so the phone is best for me.

[1969l78]

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[brgrman]

Right and service are two different thing. Customers get kicked out of places also.

[Belair62]

Jeez...enough already !!! Car is sold.John P could have walked there to see it...he made the move I guess..

[1969l78]

Sorry next time I will keep my mouth shut http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

[brgrman]

Thank you sYc.

[sYc]

For the record, posts that were made by 1969L78, which I deleted, was per his request.

[Stefano]

"but when some one else with knowledge and balls makes a move,"

Glad to see that John had the Knowledge and balls mentioned.

Rob, hang in there buddy. You will find the right car without all the drama.

[92646]

Hey Rob, Stefano is right about hanging in there for the right car. Patience and circumstances will win out every time.
Mark Sheppard

[1969l78]

I know, good things come to those who wait. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/youguysrock.gif most of you. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[ssl78]

Just came home from work I can not believe whats been going on here. Im going to pick the car up in a little while. Like Strat said I bought the car for the drivetrain but after seeing it and hearing about where the original drivetrain is I was undecided what to do with the car. I also have a correct dated L78 motor for the car. Rob if your interested in the car or anybody else you can see it at my house tomorrow. call me at 630 333 8333 John

[Novadiecast]

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Just came home from work I can not believe whats been going on here. Im going to pick the car up in a little while. Like Strat said I bought the car for the drivetrain but after seeing it and hearing about where the original drivetrain is I was undecided what to do with the car. I also have a correct dated L78 motor for the car. Rob if your interested in the car or anybody else you can see it at my house tomorrow. call me at 630 333 8333 John

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That speaks of charactor!!!!

[BARNFOUND YENKO]

Nice buy John! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[92646]

John for us people that are of the loop in finding these neat cars can you post a couple of pictures of the car. Can you tell us a little about it?
Mark Sheppard

[scott s]

Just curious but if the car had wrong motor,wrong trans, dana rear end, completely repainted,replaced carpet,had roll bar etc?? the mileage is really not a factor.. and sold for near 50k???? Whats a #s one worth with paperwork??I think the one wilma sold was a steal then http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif Rob id hold out they will be comming out of the wood work soon http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif

[Salvatore]

I agree Scott! I don't care if it had 5 miles on it. It became a race car! In my opinion that low milage just got erased. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

[DarrenX33]

It's over. Car is sold. If your interested take John's advice above.

[Postsedan]

John,

I`ll be over tomorrow to see both of your new cars.

Dan.

[DarrenX33]

Well maybe Strat should cater this event. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif

[Postsedan]

That means John will be forced to go pick it up http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif

Dan.

[DarrenX33]

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[Xplantdad]

SO John...could this be the new ride at SCRXI? I haven't been in a big block Nova for a while http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/burnout.gif

[brgrman]

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I agree Scott! I don't care if it had 5 miles on it. It became a race car! In my opinion that low milage just got erased. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

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Race cars are more desirable, look at the prices some of these vintage drag muscle cars bring in at the auctions. A factory hemi Cuda or a "Sox & Martin" hemi cuda? Race cars are in! After all a 327 Car doesnt compare to a 427 in value and a 427 car is more like a race car. So I would take a 427 race car with a story, than another 427 car that is no different than all the other 427 cars out there. How many of the same 427 cars can you see, the only difference is the color and the condition. The story behind a car is what makes them individually unique. I'd rather have a "Nickey" 427 car that was race with some race history than any other factory big block car. This is my opinion.

[PeteLeathersac]

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Race cars are more desirable, look at the prices some of these vintage drag muscle cars bring in at the auctions. A factory hemi Cuda or a Sox & Martin hemi cuda? Race cars are in! After all a 327 Car doesnt compare to a 427 in value and a 427 car is more like a race car. So I would take a 427 race car with a story, than another 427 car that is no different than all the other 427 cars out there. How many of the same 427 cars can you see the only difference is the color and the condition. The story behind a car is what makes them unique. This is my opinion.

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Beautiful!!!
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~ Pete
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[brgrman]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnhruLK2468#
Take a look at this video and if this doesn't get your race car juices flowing nothing will.

[BARNFOUND YENKO]

Cool!! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif

[scott s]

I was just questioning the market price really not your perctiular car to get a feel of what they are bringing ,Iam looking at a all #s matching 69 396/375 car that has docs and also real low mile car .I thought the $$ was a bit high but maybe its very reasonable after all... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif I agree with your statement about the 427 cars but are u saying this is such a car??

[1969l78]

Anyone can put a 427 in a car and then say it was an old race car and stuff like that, but those other race cars you talk of are few and far, thats why the bring big money. I would rather have an all original big block survivor then some car with a 427 and some iffy story behind it, but thats just me http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

[Postsedan]

Look at who I ran into....and I just happened to have my camera. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif John Platania....Congrats on finding yet another cool Nova.

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Dana Rear End

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Last picture is as it was once as a "Weekend Warrior"

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Dan.

[737Driver]

Gosh boy, that's a fine looking Nova.

[DarrenX33]

That is a nice car.

[427TJ]

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Is that a Dana 60 or am I seeing things?

[427.060]

The seller said it has a Dana 60 now but the original rearend goes with the car.
James

[BARNFOUND YENKO]

Thats way cool with the Dana 60 rearend! You snooze you lose! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/headbang.gif

[Mr.Nickey Nova]

Dan, thanks for the pics.John,looks like a real nice clean car.Hope to see it on road this summer.Got to love those big block novas.

[Schonyenko2]

My oh my! With that L88, she's a serious street sweeper back in the day. Way cool. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

[SS427]

Schaawwweeet!!!! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

[PeteLeathersac]

Boing!
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Looks like Robs not the only snoozer...great move John!.

~ Pete
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[Postsedan]

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Boing!
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Looks like Robs not the only snoozer...great move John!.

~ Pete
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Dan.

[70 Forest Green Zee]

Sure wish I was with you there today Dan.....looks like one great Nova!!

[Postsedan]

Just goes to show.....still more cars to be found. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

Dan.

[AutoInsane]

You know with that amazing story I think the L88 is right at home in the Nova! I would keep it as an L88 Nova with a hell of a tale!!

Price sure seems fair. Car looks fantastic, engine is worth a fair amount of coin on its own merits.

If you are going to swap out the L88 what is it going into?? Got a spare L88 Vette lying around that need an engine?

[DarrenX33]

The more I look at it... I think I want this car now.. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Xplantdad]

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The more I look at it... I think I want this car now.. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

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Oh my...me too! I love the 427 badges on the front fenders, too!

[tom406]

If I read this correctly, this Nova has an original #'d L88 Vette engine in it now? To the owner of that Vette, I'd say that the Nova is a nice freebie in this deal, as the original engine is worth close to a $50K bump, is it not? It sounds like the buyer has the perfect trading material (dated L78) to trade for the original engine. The car is cool as hell as well. Sounds like a slam dunk if everything goes right.

[MosportGreen66]

Fathom Green L88 SS427 Nova http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/drool.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif
Congrats to all parties... Day-2 cars are coming back!!!

[ssl78]

Thanks guys after getting the car home and really looking it over it really is a very cool car. I bought it to put the engine in my 1967 300 post chevelle. I am really not sure what I want to do with it yet sell the body, put a date coded motor in it or just leave it as is. I already have a few people that would like to buy the body minus drivetrain.
I realize the 19k miles doesnt make it a survivor but having all original perfect sheet metal and interior to me makes it the next best thing.
I want to thank Strat for all his help buying this car without him it would not of happened.

[1969l78]

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Boing!
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Looks like Robs not the only snoozer...great move John!.

~ Pete
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Dan.

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Just remember--there is always two side to a story--one true and one that is all twisted--and I was not the only one scrwed in the deal---but hey thats the way some people deal----so it just was not meant to be. Congrats on the car--- its one thing to snooze---another to be lied to!!!!!! Like (The original motor and trans is sitting 8 doors down from car I will call and find out if You can have the whole package and let you know right away) to the motor is in this car and the trans is in that car--yeah sure sound like a straight foward guy to me...... Anyways John good luck with car.

[brgrman]

Like I said this car was and still is a street drag car! It looks like a sleeper but those 427 badges catch your eye. Remember this car also has a 5.13 gear Dana 60 rear end to handle a the brute HP! The picture that -post sedan- posted is one of the original pictures I have of the car in 1971 lettered up saying "Nova II Tuff" on the side with the drivers name and with local sponsors of the car. This was a street drag car(hence the low miles) that the last owner was beginning to bring back to street trim. On my previous posts I said "I think that a race car is more valuable than a regular car " I wish the owner would of left this car in race attire. How kool would that be, a one of a kind Nova. Thats why the car was re-painted to remove all the lettering, but I would like to have kept it that way and tell everyone at the shows about its story and how it ended getting the 427 motor and a Dana 60 rear. Not many cars can give a story like this one can. This car is truly a one of a kind!!! Worth every penny if not more cause of it history and paper work. Mr. Nickey came by today to see the paper work on the car and said "this is one of the best paper work he's seen" Originally sold in Oak Park IL ,owned in Oak Park IL by only 2 owners since 1969 that raced and showed that Nova! Now it's finally left it's crib and in John's garage. The man with knowledge an the cahunas. Wow what a real deal!
I'll try to post some pictures of the car on my next posts.

[brgrman]

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Boing!
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Looks like Robs not the only snoozer...great move John!.

~ Pete
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Dan.

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Just remember--there is always two side to a story--one true and one that is all twisted--and I was not the only one scrwed in the deal---but hey thats the way some people deal----so it just was not meant to be. Congrats on the car--- its one thing to snooze---another to be lied to!!!!!! Like (The original motor and trans is sitting 8 doors down from car I will call and find out if You can have the whole package and let you know right away) to the motor is in this car and the trans is in that car--yeah sure sound like a straight foward guy to me...... Anyways John good luck with car.

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Now I'll call you a out right LYRE! I never said that to you! I said the motor and trans are local and I don't have access to them. You are such a sour grape! Your are probably so embarrassed that didn't buy this awesome car in your home town and trying to save your reputation of trying to be a buyer. Your actions prove it and your "baby acting" response to all of this shows your a minor league player! Just go back to the dug out and sit on the bench!

[brgrman]

I don't even want to post the engine pictures! Cause thats the best and coolest part of the car. Mr 1969L78 will freak out! At what he pasted up.

[brgrman]

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If I read this correctly, this Nova has an original #'d L88 Vette engine in it now? To the owner of that Vette, I'd say that the Nova is a nice freebie in this deal, as the original engine is worth close to a $50K bump, is it not? It sounds like the buyer has the perfect trading material (dated L78) to trade for the original engine. The car is cool as hell as well. Sounds like a slam dunk if everything goes right. [/quote

Thats why john bought the Nova, he wanted the drive train. The great condition Nova car with premium paper work was a bonus to him.

[BARNFOUND YENKO]

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[1969l78]

I and some others know how dishonest you are- if you want to use baseball terms--you remind me of Roger Clemens, (I was not at Jose Canseco party), but as time goes on truth starts to leak out. But being a car fan I would love to see motor pics. The part that bothers me is dishonesty, not the fact that I did not get the car, I have stated all along I am looking for a matching numbers drive line car with doc's, so if you would have done your homework then you would know what I am lookin for. You mislead people from day one with the generic description of the car in the first post to all the garbage you post up till today. I can go to bed at night knowin I am an honest guy. I will find my car someday and am not the least bit sad I did not get yours, just upset another guy in this great hobby misleading people. All the guys I have talked to on this site are 1st class guy--all but one. And as for your reputation statement-- Im a 31 year old guy-why would I come on here and lie and burn bridges--gets you no where in life. Good luck buddy http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif

[1969l78]

And that will be my last words on this thread. Sorry for boring everyone. brgrman go had and keep bashing what I say because it makes you feel good about yourself and you think it makes you look cool in front of your buddies. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[brgrman]

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I and some others know how dishonest you are- if you want to use baseball terms--you remind me of Roger Clemens, (I was not at Jose Canseco party), but as time goes on truth starts to leak out. But being a car fan I would love to see motor pics. The part that bothers me is dishonesty, not the fact that I did not get the car, I have stated all along I am looking for a matching numbers drive line car with doc's, so if you would have done your homework then you would know what I am lookin for. You mislead people from day one with the generic description of the car in the first post to all the garbage you post up till today. I can go to bed at night knowin I am an honest guy. I will find my car someday and am not the least bit sad I did not get yours, just upset another guy in this great hobby misleading people. All the guys I have talked to on this site are 1st class guy--all but one. And as for your reputation statement-- Im a 31 year old guy-why would I come on here and lie and burn bridges--gets you no where in life. Good luck buddy http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif

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Every person including YOU that inquired about the Nova,I told them in the first minutes or sentences of any phone conversation that the cars original drive train is not in the car and I have NO ACSESS to it, but know where it is. Motor in Oak Park, trans in Barrington, rear end in my garage. Yes the description is vague but the phone conversations were VERY DETAILED to every one who called. If you are looking for a # matching car, on the phone you knew the car was not right away in first minutes of conversation. So why all your griping?
Who knows, only you know. Maybe to cover your tracks on not being a a real buyer and all your friend are asking you why didn't you buy the car. Enough said, if you feel ok, I think I'll try to post some more picts, but don't come crying now the car was sold and picked up.

[Postsedan]

More pics, more pics. That would make Bruce and I very happy.

Dan.

[brgrman]

In the old vintage picture of the Nova "NOVA II TUFF" The guy in the blue shirt by the Nova is the original owner and the guy in the white shirt by the Impala is the second owner that I bought the Nova from. The second owner is still alive and well has all the history and live across from the alley from the original owner. The Original owner ,his best friend and car buddy has now died and the car was willed to the 2nd owner. I picked up the car from him. So there's no iffy anything about this car, he knows every minute of the cars life, he was one of his original budies that went to Brigance Chevy to pick this Nova up when the special ordered Nova was picked up fo

[Xplantdad]

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More pics, more pics. That would make Bruce and I very happy.

Dan.

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Yes it would! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[Postsedan]

O.K. I`ve got some pics.....John Platania wanted me to share these most impressive docs with everyone.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v677/Postsedan/Postsedan2008/l78_nova_1011.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v677/Postsedan/Postsedan2008/l78_nova_1021.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v677/Postsedan/Postsedan2008/l78_nova_1041.jpg

Dan.

[brgrman]

Sorry my batteries on my key board died from all this typing. Just changed them and up and running again.

[brgrman]

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg74/bstbrgr/1969%20Nova/P2290075.jpg

[brgrman]

These original valve covers were just re-chromed.

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg74/bstbrgr/1969%20Nova/P2290068.jpg

[brgrman]

Look on the fire wall theres two holes were the second owner told me was the ignition box for racing.

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg74/bstbrgr/1969%20Nova/P2290077.jpg
The paint shop put the air cleaner sticker on.

[brgrman]

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg74/bstbrgr/1969%20Nova/P2290078.jpg

[brgrman]

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg74/bstbrgr/1969%20Nova/P2290080.jpg

[brgrman]

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg74/bstbrgr/1969%20Nova/P2290081.jpg

[427.060]

[ QUOTE ]
The part that bothers me is dishonesty, not the fact that I did not get the car, I have stated all along I am looking for a matching numbers drive line car with doc's, so if you would have done your homework then you would know what I am lookin for. :

[/ QUOTE ]

I don't know anything about either of you guys or this car but this statement bothers me. Why would the seller of this car do his homework to see what kind of car you are looking for? He offered a car for sale and you called him. In my opinion, him answering the phone is all the homework he needed to do. I'm pretty sure he was not sitting at his computer reading all the wanted ads here trying to guess who would call about the car. Just my opinion.
James

[brgrman]

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg74/bstbrgr/1969%20Nova/P3020001.jpg

A better original pict of the "Nova II TUFF" racing era of this Nova!

[brgrman]

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg74/bstbrgr/1969%20Nova/P2290087.jpg[/IMG[img]http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg74/bstbrgr/1969%20Nova/P2290087.jpg
Heres the 61 Impala thats in the old pict still in the garage in Oak Park next to the Nova STILL after 38 yrs! WOW!

[brgrman]

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg74/bstbrgr/1969%20Nova/P2290086.jpg
This is whats in the Impala now.

[brgrman]

Here is the story of the Engines.(Owner 1 & owner 2) 1 I told you sold the orig engine to to his buddy down the alley when 1 got the 427 Vette motor when the car was weeks old. 2 had the impala with a small motor. When 1 wanted to go faster with a bigger motor (think a built 468) 2 told me he got the 427 Vette motor and put it in the Impala. When 1 died and willed the Nova to 2 , 2 put the 427 Vette motor back in the Nova(took out the 468) and bought a 1999 502 crate motor for the Impala. Can u guy understand what I'm trying to explain here?

[brgrman]

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg74/bstbrgr/1969%20Nova/P2290083.jpg
Original interior other than the carpet!

[brgrman]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
The part that bothers me is dishonesty, not the fact that I did not get the car, I have stated all along I am looking for a matching numbers drive line car with doc's, so if you would have done your homework then you would know what I am lookin for. :

[/ QUOTE ]


Don't know u either , but Thank you!
I'm sure every one is not stupid there are many posters p.m. me agreeing with you.
Now lets get back to this great story of this Nova and let by-gones be gone.

I don't know anything about either of you guys or this car but this statement bothers me. Why would the seller of this car do his homework to see what kind of car you are looking for? He offered a car for sale and you called him. In my opinion, him answering the phone is all the homework he needed to do. I'm pretty sure he was not sitting at his computer reading all the wanted ads here trying to guess who would call about the car. Just my opinion.
James

[/ QUOTE ]

[brgrman]

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg74/bstbrgr/1969%20Nova/P2290088.jpg

His wall a picts that I'll have to make copies of and give back to #2

[brgrman]

#2's Garage was loaded with a bunch of old school parts.
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg74/bstbrgr/1969%20Nova/P2290089.jpg

[brgrman]

#2 loves his Impala, had it for 45 years, but when #2 died he promised he would put the 427 Vette motor in the Nova and clean up the car. One more thing #1 asked before his passing was to bring the car to his grave and lay down the best rubber it could. So #2 is pretty much done with #1 requests and I was finally abel to acquire the car. I knew of this car for some time but wasn't able to close the deal,till now.

[brgrman]

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg74/bstbrgr/1969%20Nova/P2290072.jpg

[brgrman]

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg74/bstbrgr/1969%20Nova/P2290071.jpg

[brgrman]

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg74/bstbrgr/1969%20Nova/P2290074.jpg

[brgrman]

original as original can be.

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg74/bstbrgr/1969%20Nova/P2290098.jpg

[brgrman]

[ QUOTE ]
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg74/bstbrgr/1969%20Nova/P3020001.jpg

A better original pict of the "Nova II TUFF" racing era of this Nova!

[/ QUOTE ]
He told me his tow car was a 1970 454 Monte Carlo!

[Rixls6]

Very cool story with some great pics.
Thanks for sharing.

[1969l78]

On a diffrent note is the green inteior big block nova's the only ones that came with the rosewood insert in the steering wheel? Thats the second one I have seen, was that standard on option?

[brgrman]

This steering wheel is in the best shape I have ever seen!!!! Unbelivable condition and yes rose wood. Option wise I dont know.

[1969l78]

I have only seen one other one in a 70 green big block car


http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s240/1969l78/DSC05980.jpg

[Postsedan]

[ QUOTE ]
#2 loves his Impala, had it for 45 years, but when #2 died he promised he would put the 427 Vette motor in the Nova and clean up the car. One more thing #1 asked before his passing was to bring the car to his grave and lay down the best rubber it could. So #2 is pretty much done with #1 requests and I was finally abel to acquire the car. I knew of this car for some time but wasn't able to close the deal,till now.

[/ QUOTE ]

Strat,

So owner number 2....did do the "Burnout" at owner number 1`s request? Did owner number 2 get any pictures or video of him doing this special burnout request by owner number 1?

Dan.

[WILMASBOYL78]

[ QUOTE ]
This steering wheel is in the best shape I have ever seen!!!! Unbelivable condition and yes rose wood. Option wise I dont know.

[/ QUOTE ]

That's really not a rosewood wheel....this is the woodgrain trim (really decals) that was an option on 69 cars...I have seen it in lots of Camaros and full size (I think)...don't believe it was really an option for Novas...not much work to install the wood grain on a std. black wheel.

wilma

[hvychev]

John,

This car is absolutely awesome! I wish I would have found it! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif I can't wait to see this car in person.

John, just so you know, the address for Brigance on the window sticker is the storage lot that all of the new cars were delivered to because of lack of room at the dealership.

Here is where the car came home to.

841 N. Kenilworth (http://www.cookcountyassessor.com/filings/searchflat//ParcelImage.asp?pin=16063040210000)

[brgrman]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
#2 loves his Impala, had it for 45 years, but when #2 died he promised he would put the 427 Vette motor in the Nova and clean up the car. One more thing #1 asked before his passing was to bring the car to his grave and lay down the best rubber it could. So #2 is pretty much done with #1 requests and I was finally abel to acquire the car. I knew of this car for some time but wasn't able to close the deal,till now.

[/ QUOTE ]

Strat,

So owner number 2....did do the "Burnout" at owner number 1`s request? Did owner number 2 get any pictures or video of him doing this special burnout request by owner number 1?

Dan.

[/ QUOTE ]

That would be awesome if he had any pict of that. I'll ask and find out, I'll keep you guys posted.

[brgrman]

[ QUOTE ]
On a diffrent note is the green inteior big block nova's the only ones that came with the rosewood insert in the steering wheel? Thats the second one I have seen, was that standard on option?

[/ QUOTE ]

Thanks for coming around and not being upset anymore. We are all car lovers on these boards. I'll even put out the OLIVE BRANCH out there for you to take. We'll call John P. have him bring the " Nova II TUFF" car out to my restuarant "STRAT's 50's Diner" and I'll buy you a great lunch!!!! Then we'll go out side and see the car, you'll probabably feel like pukeing some great food after seeing the condition of the car though! LOL http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif

[hvychev]

Strat, I usually don't get involved in anymore negative crap on sYc, and have laid low for at least the past two years on this site. With that said, I have met you and you are a cool dude. At first I didn't believe that was even you acting like this. Why don't you just give it a rest. You sold the car and got your dough. John got a cool car and that is that. Please don't give this car a bad vibe like some families have done to their family name in this hobby because of not letting it go.

End of story.

[hvychev]

On a brighter note, here is some cool Brigance memorabilia from my collection of Chicago area dealer memorabilia.

http://www.yenko.net/photos/data/500/medium/145_4594.JPG

http://www.yenko.net/photos/data/500/medium/145_4595.JPG

http://www.yenko.net/photos/data/500/medium/145_4596.JPG

http://www.yenko.net/photos/data/500/medium/145_4598.JPG

http://www.yenko.net/photos/data/500/medium/145_4597.JPG

[brgrman]

I think you interpreted it wrong. I do want to me meet him and enjoy a lunch, the puke thing is totally a joke in good humor. Come on it's sunny out side let's enjoy the spring season is coming around!

[hvychev]

John,

This might be what your cars documents came in when it was new.

http://www.yenko.net/photos/data/500/medium/146_4601.JPG

[Postsedan]

[ QUOTE ]
John,

This might be what your cars documents came in when it was new.

http://www.yenko.net/photos/data/500/medium/146_4601.JPG

[/ QUOTE ]

Hey Frank,

Be a real car buddy and just give John that Brigance Sales Envelope http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif It needs to be with that Nova....what do you say?

Dan.

[1969l78]

Water under the bridge http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s240/1969l78/under-724188.jpg

[69 Post Sedan]

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif

[Salvatore]

Some real nice memorabilia Frankie! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif

[brgrman]

That memorabilia from Brigance is just as exciting for the car. What a display you can do with that stuff for the " NOVA II TUFF" Nova that John has now! I think John should talk to you. I can see it now at Spring VETTE FEST.

[brgrman]

I told John to think about the future of the car. Which way to go.
Does he go back to factory specs. Or does he keep the drive train in(427 m-22 dana 60) and go nostalgia drag look. Old drag car style is less work, just add Lettering, 10 inch Cragars and headers with some cherry bomb exhaust! Original factory look can be alot of labor for John. Plus drag car style can be fun at the strip!

[brgrman]

Let's take a poll

factory
or
drag http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

[mockingbird812]

drag nostalgia. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

[BARNFOUND YENKO]

Drag car with the cragars/old school look. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

[Rixls6]

I vote Nostalgia drag car with L88 intact. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif
Hey does voting make this a political post? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hmmm.gif

[Belair62]

Let me know when he cuts the 61 loose...screw the Nova.

[Postsedan]

I would say go full circle once again....kind of like a special memorial for the original owner....I sense that he was very passioniate about his drag car. So I vote to scan and trace all the old photo`s...put back the lettering on the car and bring it back to life as it once was.....a Drag Car.

Dan.

[Xplantdad]

I say do whatever makes John happy (I had to be different...I think it should be a drag car, too! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif )

[brgrman]

I personally would go drag car in a flash. To drive a drag car with some cheater slicks 15x10 rims, some louder exhaust would be a blast from the past! What got me hook on old racer cars was this car I just picked up last month in Hollywood FL it turn 9.82 at 138mph in the 1/4mile!
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg74/bstbrgr/1967%20vette/IMG_0715.jpg

[brgrman]

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg74/bstbrgr/1967%20vette/IMG_0868copy.jpg

[brgrman]

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg74/bstbrgr/1967%20vette/1vag.jpg
The Vette picture was take in Washinton DC in 1975

[brgrman]

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg74/bstbrgr/1967%20vette/vette1.jpg

Here in 1971

[brgrman]

here in 1973
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg74/bstbrgr/1967%20vette/vag.jpg

[bashton]

[ QUOTE ]
I would say go full circle once again....kind of like a special memorial for the original owner....I sense that he was very passioniate about his drag car. So I vote to scan and trace all the old photo`s...put back the lettering on the car and bring it back to life as it once was.....a Drag Car.

Dan.

[/ QUOTE ]

I agree and besides, John has better then a full month to have it ready for our Straight Axle & Vintage Race Car Showcase at Chevy Vettefest!

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

BA

[brgrman]

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg74/bstbrgr/1969%20Nova/P3020001.jpg

So John should go to this day for the car!! thats my vote

[Postsedan]

Strat,

Stop hi-jacking the Nova`s thread....now let`s get back on track with the Nova.

Dan.

[brgrman]

Vintage Race car show case!! He can do it this way in time know problem. He can always go back to stock later. I'll bring the "Virginia Gentelman" Vette also.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/showthread.php?t=1868740
Read this link there's a even better story on this car! it starts slow but by page 3 it explodes!

[brgrman]

[ QUOTE ]
Strat,

Stop hi-jacking the Nova`s thread....now let`s get back on track with the Nova.

Dan.

[/ QUOTE ]

I'm just showing you on how popular these vintage drag cars are going to get. I think Mike was and still is ahead of the curve with his car collection of old race cars he's just playing the super big leagues with his type of cars though. I really feel with a nostalgia race cars you don't have to worry to much if the header bolt has the correct style head markings on it. But then there are the purists which is also great to look at but now we just compare condition and tell them whats wrong on there car or whats right.

[brgrman]

http://www.komotioncorvette.com/

Another Nostalgia drag car.

[Postsedan]

Strat,

If you really want to show everyone some really rare footage....show the "Beta Recorded Home Footage" from circa 1981-82 http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/burnout.gif

Dan.

[brgrman]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnhruLK2468
Heres Sixties Muscle old drag Sox& Martin car

[Mr70]

Welcome cooking Greece. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v669/Rick_Peters/stirthepot.gif
Was this Nova ever in for service at the station on the corner of Roosevelt & Laramie around 1979-80?..sure looks like the same car.
When are you selling that cigarette machine..

[427TJ]

[ QUOTE ]
I vote Nostalgia drag car with L88 intact. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif
Hey does voting make this a political post? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hmmm.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

Lots of rotisserie cars out there. Day 2 drag car, no-brainer. Oh, and an NOS "F*CK NIXON" bumpersticker.

Now that's a political post!

[tabooo]

Right-on Strat,This car should retutn to the drag car it was back in the day.

[PeteLeathersac]

[ QUOTE ]
Let's take a poll

factory
or
drag http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

Either way that Nova's a winner...but if possible, shouldn't the L-88 be reunited w/ it's original '68 Vette first?.

And I may have missed it in the threads but is it known what the original engine was in the '67 Vette?.

~ Pete
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[Salvatore]

I vote stock with a $5,000 smog system http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif and dog dish caps. Hopefully the original Muncie shifter will at least shift into first and reverse so he can get it into the trailer and then to the show and then back home again. Then Johnny P. can cover it up in his garage till the next show. Stock with a Gardner exhaust!! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif and NONE of this http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif

[Justbad Joe]

[ QUOTE ]
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg74/bstbrgr/1969%20Nova/P3020001.jpg



[/ QUOTE ]
Is that a Grump lump on the hood?
Joe

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

Light up your flaming arrows http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif IMHO, unless the drag car has some sort of notoriety, ala record holder of some sort, famous owner, driver or tuner, it's just another driveway creation - and should be restored back to it's stock condition. How many people are going to ooooh & aaaah over an obnoxiously lettered up, hillbilly suspensioned, wanna be drag-star that nobody ever saw run?

Pure Stock is the Way to Rock! (That includes Whitewall tires!!) http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Chevy454]

Don't ya know, M, if they've got headers & slicks they GOTTA BE FAST! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[427TJ]

[ QUOTE ]
How many people are going to ooooh & aaaah over an obnoxiously lettered up, hillbilly suspensioned, wanna be drag-star that nobody ever saw run?

[/ QUOTE ]

Okay, I will.

That's one.

[Tommy]

[ QUOTE ]
How many people are going to ooooh & aaaah over an obnoxiously lettered up, hillbilly suspensioned, wanna be drag-star that nobody ever saw run?

[/ QUOTE ]

Probably as many people that oooh & aaaah over a primer colored car with an anemic small block and skinny little "girlie man" tires..... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif

Tommy http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif

[Mr70]

In a similar tone as Marlins,I say leave this one as is...for now.
Maybe have some 1/4 panel vinyl graphics made up saying "CHEVY II TUFF",that can be applied & removed at area shows around here and see if anybody is drawn to that name at first.If that stimulates a few stories/pictures/super 8 movies showing up,then turn it up full bore to it's racing glory.
If not,take it back to the assembly line.

[Draginwagon]

Drag Car.
More Fun,
and since he has all the documents
That makes it real as real can be.
Drag Car. Yes Sir ! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif

[AutoInsane]

There are a lot of 396/375 Novas out there and as cool as they are there are very few Novas with an L88 Novas with incredible stories!! Keep her as the special car that she is!!! It was installed at the dealership right?? Kind of a supercar of its own!!!

[DarrenX33]

I am so sick of this thread. Its just a Nova...














I want this car. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Postsedan]

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif

Dan.

[budnate]

I would like to see John line this L-88 Nova up against Mark Hassets L-88 Camaro heads up on slicks 5 passes,at SCR this year....best man wins. loser buys beers at dinner. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b47/budnate/SCR%209/th_DSCN5362.jpg (http://s16.photobucket.com/albums/b47/budnate/SCR%209/?action=view&current=DSCN5362.flv)

[WILMASBOYL78]

All this discussion about a little old Nova....what's this world coming to???

wilma http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[brgrman]

[ QUOTE ]
All this discussion about a little old Nova....what's this world coming to???

wilma http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

With a big old motor!!!!427 with a dana 60/5.13gears http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

[brgrman]

[ QUOTE ]
I would like to see John line this L-88 Nova up against Mark Hassets L-88 Camaro heads up on slicks 5 passes,at SCR this year....best man wins. loser buys beers at dinner. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b47/budnate/SCR%209/th_DSCN5362.jpg (http://s16.photobucket.com/albums/b47/budnate/SCR%209/?action=view&current=DSCN5362.flv)

[/ QUOTE ]

Now I'd bet on the "CHEVY II TUFF" Nova just because it has the 5.13 gears and with the dana 60 The Nova can launch at any rpm with out blowing the rear out!

[brgrman]

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=228509

Old nostalgic drag cars are the new wave, this thread is 140 pages long!
You can see some Arnie Beswick and Grumpy's toy's I think on page 2.

[TDW]

I'll throw my opinion in too. I have a 70 Nova with a 427 in it. Not quite an L88, but close. It is a blast to drive, so I would lean towards leaving the L88 in the car. Do what has to be done to get the original driveline and store it. When (if) you ever get tired of the big incher, put it back to all original. In the meantime, beat the crap out of it.

[Salvatore]

Do we even know if John is keeping this car or not? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
How many people are going to ooooh & aaaah over an obnoxiously lettered up, hillbilly suspensioned, wanna be drag-star that nobody ever saw run?

[/ QUOTE ]

Probably as many people that oooh & aaaah over a primer colored car with an anemic small block and skinny little "girlie man" tires..... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif

Tommy http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

Ha! Put 'em up TommyBoy - let's have a race http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif I have it on video of the ooohs & aaahs from last years SCR - 13.505 at 104+mph on those skinny whitewalls http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

Go back to stock with this thing, it's got paperwork, orig. driveline can be had, and it's a cool color - leave the 'redneck racer' look in the past where it belongs!!

[brgrman]

[ QUOTE ]
Do we even know if John is keeping this car or not? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

I know John, he was not a Nova guy just Camero and Chevelles. I know he now really likes this Nova and is going to sell his post Chevelle(forgot what year it is) and keep the "CHEVY II TUFF' Nova, but who knows.

[brgrman]

[ QUOTE ]
Do we even know if John is keeping this car or not? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

John is a Camero and Chevelle person, his plans were to sell it ,but last I talked to him he was thinking of keeping the "CHEVY II TUFF" Nova(to do some Nostalgia Drag events and have fun with this car) and selling the Post Chevelle he has but who knows. He said the Nova is a very cool car and the condition would be very hard to re-place.

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

brgrman, just a tip - it's considered a board faux-pau to double post, ie; it's like you are having a conversation with yourself. Not to mention, I think John can answer the questions that are posed to him.

BTW, where's your stars??

[PeteLeathersac]

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...BTW, where's your stars??...

[/ QUOTE ]

Not awarded until learning how to spell Camaro correctly!.
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

What year's the Chevelle Post car? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif.

~ Pete
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[brgrman]

camaro,camaro,camaro camaro camaro,camaro,camaro,camaro,camaro,camaro.

Ready now for the spelling test guy! LOL

[PeteLeathersac]

[ QUOTE ]
camaro,camaro,camaro camaro camaro,camaro,camaro,camaro,camaro,camaro.

Ready now for the spelling test guy! LOL

[/ QUOTE ]

You pass...advance to Go and click here for stars!.
http://www.yenko.net/member.htm

And Strat, you do know you belong here...right?.
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif
~ Pete

[rich p]

Why is this not in the Discussion area ?? The car is not for sale on this post !! So why is it HERE ???

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[DarrenX33]

That's better. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

[brgrman]

Well for sure the car will be in Chevy Vette Fest for the" drag car show case" theme that they are having this year. I'll bring the 1967 "Virginia Gentelman" drag car also.

[rich p]

Thank You !!!

[brgrman]

Your 100 % right it got to the point where it did not belong in the classified section.

[Steve Shauger]

Speaking of classified ads, congrats on the sale of your car. Now its time to ante up and become a member. Click on the link below:
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/mypaymentpal/mypaymentpal.php?Cat=0

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[SS427]

Just the number of sandwiches you will sell to sYc members alone at VetteFest will more than cover the cost of a membership and then some. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[bashton]

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Just the number of sandwiches you will sell to sYc members alone at VetteFest will more than cover the cost of a membership and then some. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

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Hey...does he deliver? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

BA

[Tommy]

I noticed the car was sold last Thursday (mentioned in the other thread on this car) and I thought it was sold with complete as is drivetrain. I noticed on the Corvette forum on 3/2/08 it is mentioned in the thread about your vette that the engine in the Nova would be pulled and kept. Did I miss something http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif.


Tommy http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/burnout.gif

[Stefano]

Just to clarify the thread,based on what I have been told the engine in the Nova is not an L88, it is a L71 out of a 1968 Corvette.

[ssl78]

"How many people are going to ooooh & aaaah over anobnoxiously lettered up, hillbilly suspensioned, wanna be drag-star that nobody ever saw run"?


This statement can only be made by a guy that is to young to have lived the era or somebody who was not a car guy in his early days. When I seen that picture I had goose bumps not because of that car but because the memories it brought back. In the 70s you would see that all over, lettered cars cars that were jacked up so high they drove like crap and scarey to drive but that was the excitment about it.
That statement hillbilly lettering every body had there own taste and there own budget and it was all cool primered or mint everbody enjoyed each others cars and always helped each other.
my 71 Chevelle "MOTHERS WORRY" It was street driven but also ran at the track when hearing the story about the Nova it brought me back to the 70s both cars my Chevelle and the Nova had so much in common a name all cars needed that back them Cragar SS tunnel rams 5:13 gears roll bars both street cars and also spent weekend at the tracks.
What this Nova really did for me is making want to find Mothers Worry again so thats what im going to try to do the last picture is the way the car looked when I sold it. I finally had to take the name off I got tired of being stopped by the cops and hassled. So maybe to a non car guy that picture means nothing but I think any one that had a car and lived that era could appreciate the hillbilly lettered car I sure do.
By the way My Chevelle was a 1971 triple black 9,000 mile original paint car last known place it was was south side around Orland Park anybody recognize it.
As for the Nova I probably will sell my 67 post Chevelle and use this for my race car.
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg48/ssl78/mothersworry.jpg
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg48/ssl78/mothersworry001.jpghttp://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg48/ssl78/mothersworry002.jpg

[brgrman]

I'm 44 years old, you couldn't sat it any better than that! I was at the tail end 1960 to 1985 era of the"lets go modify our cars and go racing" there was no "is that a original starter on the car?" We pulled original parts off a car and didn't care. Now everyone has "Original cars, there a dime a dozen" I'm my opinion and you readers can see from the mini poll everyone who's a car guy (with some history to him) would prefer a nostalgic race car to a stock factory issued car. It brings back a lot of memories from my youth, and boy oh boy time is flying and it would be great to taste a little youth as we're all getting old. We want to do original cars because of the big investments in these cars, but I think we would all love to drive a cool Hot Rod anyday of the week.

[brgrman]

Look a john's "Mother's Worry" a 1971 LS-5 9k miles and John modified it! Unheard of, if that was today, now John would buy that car for a premium over another 1971 Black LS-5 original Chevelle.

[brgrman]

[ QUOTE ]
I noticed the car was sold last Thursday (mentioned in the other thread on this car) and I thought it was sold with complete as is drivetrain. I noticed on the Corvette forum on 3/2/08 it is mentioned in the thread about your vette that the engine in the Nova would be pulled and kept. Did I miss something http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif.


Tommy http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/burnout.gif

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John bought the Nova for the drive train and was going to sell the body with paper work for the car, but the car was to good the way it is, plus it has a little nostalgia racing behind it. So the Nova is best kept with the 427 & Dana 60 5.13 gear drive train.

[Canada George]

I think the confusion some of us that have been following this thread are having is that brgrman indicated early and often that the Nova had a supplanted real L-88 engine. I personally found this to be one of the most interesting aspects of this story.
This L-88 motor has been referred to in any number of posts in the last few days; this claim has never been disputed by either party in this transaction.
However, Stefano recently told us he was told the engine in the car is actually a ’68 L71???
Both buyer and seller have since made posts since Stefano’s revelation, with neither gentleman offering any clarification.
Might we therefore assume that this is once again a case of, “it’s an L-88…. yeah, that’s the ticket….”
Don’t leave us hanging guys; just the facts, please.

[SuperNovaSS]

It had cast heads in the pic.

[Canada George]

Correct; brgrman claimed on the Corvette Forum that this L-88 was missing it’s aluminum heads. Just seems to me that when questions of an individual’s forthrightness are made (i.e. the initial representation of this car when still for sale), an effort would be made to steer clear of murky waters, so to speak.
Again (and I realize that these individuals are surely retired for the night) there has already been a significant time frame for a response to the issue of the Nova’s engine.
Not my intention to berate anyone, in fact both guys seem very serious and enthusiastic about the hobby. That’s why I’m hoping the light of a new day will allow for the fog to clear on the facts here.

[Tommy]

What I was referring to was that Brgrman stated the car was sold Thursday 2/28/08 and to be picked up Sat 3/1/08 then on another forum states on 3/2/08 the engine doesn't go with car. I thought John bought the whole package and I guess he did, I was wondering why after the car was sold and gone the former owner was still mentioning the car as if it were still his. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

Tommy http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif

[Salvatore]

Come on Tommy. Didn't anybody tell ya?? Strat is Johns agent and race promoter. I hear a vintage Pro Stock shoot out with Mark's (madkraut) ex Pro Stock camaro, Johnny P's. (weekend warrior) Modified Eliminator/Pro Stock nova and the guest appearing car will be that bad a$$ yellow COPO with the tunnel ram from Pittsburg, with Kenny P. at the wheel! I also heard rumors of a new BB nova out of eastern Pa. that may come! So stay tuned!! Sunday,Sunday,Sunday va- va-va voom way! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

[Tommy]

[ QUOTE ]
Well for sure the car will be in Chevy Vette Fest for the" drag car show case" theme that they are having this year. I'll bring the 1967 "Virginia Gentelman" drag car also.

[/ QUOTE ]

Thanks Sam, I understand now http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif. That would also explain why Strat is letting us know where Johns car will be http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif. Nice Nova John, glad you got it. Strat, your Vette is also very nice http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif


Tommy http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

[ QUOTE ]
"How many people are going to ooooh & aaaah over anobnoxiously lettered up, hillbilly suspensioned, wanna be drag-star that nobody ever saw run"?


This statement can only be made by a guy that is to young to have lived the era or somebody who was not a car guy in his early days. When I seen that picture I had goose bumps not because of that car but because the memories it brought back. In the 70s you would see that all over, lettered cars cars that were jacked up so high they drove like crap and scarey to drive but that was the excitment about it.
That statement hillbilly lettering every body had there own taste and there own budget and it was all cool primered or mint everbody enjoyed each others cars and always helped each other...

[/ QUOTE ]

Take it easy there http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif Opinions were solicited, ya don't have to like 'em all!

As for your generalization about me 'not being a car guy', you are flat wrong http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif See, I remember doing all that silly 'race-car' stuff to my old Nova - and I don't get goosebumps, I totally cringe! I recall the monster tire street scene, it was no big deal to me - I'd rather see 'em all stock, whitewalls and all.

Yuck!
http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h68/aacorp/71Nova3.jpg

Hillbilly style!
http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h68/aacorp/71Nova1.jpg

Nice!!!
http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h68/aacorp/SCR7-0296.jpg

[1969l78]

I will take the nova in the last pic- all stock and ready rock http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif

[Tommy]

[ QUOTE ]
Ha! Put 'em up TommyBoy - let's have a race http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif I have it on video of the ooohs & aaahs from last years SCR - 13.505 at 104+mph on those skinny whitewalls http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif

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Marlin, if I ever get the silly thing finished I will take you up on that. I'm still hunting for more hillbilly parts right now..... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif I like stock too, with exception to itsy bitsy tires .... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

Tommy http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif

[brgrman]

[ QUOTE ]
Correct; brgrman claimed on the Corvette Forum that this L-88 was missing it’s aluminum heads. Just seems to me that when questions of an individual’s forthrightness are made (i.e. the initial representation of this car when still for sale), an effort would be made to steer clear of murky waters, so to speak.
Again (and I realize that these individuals are surely retired for the night) there has already been a significant time frame for a response to the issue of the Nova’s engine.
Not my intention to berate anyone, in fact both guys seem very serious and enthusiastic about the hobby. That’s why I’m hoping the light of a new day will allow for the fog to clear on the facts here.

[/ QUOTE ]

The motor transplant from the Corvette was the short block only, no intake or alum heads or carb, just the bottom end. Owner #2 said it's a 427 12.5 compression L-88 Corvette motor.He even gave us the 5 gallon gas can with Sunoco blue 110 race gas for the car, so I know it has the compression and sound like it to. What a beautiful sound even gas for this will be 6 dollars a gallon.

[DarrenX33]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
"How many people are going to ooooh & aaaah over anobnoxiously lettered up, hillbilly suspensioned, wanna be drag-star that nobody ever saw run"?


This statement can only be made by a guy that is to young to have lived the era or somebody who was not a car guy in his early days. When I seen that picture I had goose bumps not because of that car but because the memories it brought back. In the 70s you would see that all over, lettered cars cars that were jacked up so high they drove like crap and scarey to drive but that was the excitment about it.
That statement hillbilly lettering every body had there own taste and there own budget and it was all cool primered or mint everbody enjoyed each others cars and always helped each other...

[/ QUOTE ]

Take it easy there http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif Opinions were solicited, ya don't have to like 'em all!

As for your generalization about me 'not being a car guy', you are flat wrong http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif See, I remember doing all that silly 'race-car' stuff to my old Nova - and I don't get goosebumps, I totally cringe! I recall the monster tire street scene, it was no big deal to me - I'd rather see 'em all stock, whitewalls and all.

Yuck!
http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h68/aacorp/71Nova3.jpg

Hillbilly style!
http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h68/aacorp/71Nova1.jpg

Nice!!!
http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h68/aacorp/SCR7-0296.jpg

[/ QUOTE ]

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif Now that's really funny. You say you don't like it now but you were obviously into back then otherwise why not just stock? I think the only answer for that is that your just twisted. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Honestly, I was born in 68. But when I was a kid I remember the musclecars that were in my driveway. None of them were stock and being around those cars is the reason I am into the hobby today. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif

[brgrman]

[ QUOTE ]
What I was referring to was that Brgrman stated the car was sold Thursday 2/28/08 and to be picked up Sat 3/1/08 then on another forum states on 3/2/08 the engine doesn't go with car. I thought John bought the whole package and I guess he did, I was wondering why after the car was sold and gone the former owner was still mentioning the car as if it were still his. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

Tommy http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

Let me explain, in the Nova deal there is a never fired LS-7 GM crate motor from 1974. John first wanted the 427 from the Nova and the LS-7 and not the car , so John bought the Nova complete and in tact. John was going to separate the 427 motor from the car, but John changed his mind and decided to keep the Nova as his nostalgic drag car and sell his drag Chevelle car instead. That 's how it stands as of today, but who knows. John also doesn't post much and asked me to respond to the thread. No the car is not mine right now, it's Johns.

[Tommy]

I don't think I have it too hillbillied up http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hmmm.gif It used to be a bit more overstated than it is now with balljoint extensions and diamond tuck and all that sort of thing... Doesn't matter, seems like it will be forever emtombed in that garage.... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/68sschevyII/Im000312.jpg
Tommy

[PeteLeathersac]

I like 'em both ways...and Marty Stuart's Hillbilly Rock tune too!.

Give Marlin a few more years and maybe he'll be paying big for all those hillbilly parts he so hastily tossed and made fun of?.

~ Pete
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[brgrman]

[ QUOTE ]
Come on Tommy. Didn't anybody tell ya?? Strat is Johns agent and race promoter. I hear a vintage Pro Stock shoot out with Mark's (madkraut) ex Pro Stock camaro, Johnny P's. (weekend warrior) Modified Eliminator/Pro Stock nova and the guest appearing car will be that bad a$$ yellow COPO with the tunnel ram from Pittsburg, with Kenny P. at the wheel! I also heard rumors of a new BB nova out of eastern Pa. that may come! So stay tuned!! Sunday,Sunday,Sunday va- va-va voom way! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

Also a special appearance by the "Virginia Gentelman" 1967 Nostalgic Drag Vette, sponsored by Strat's 50's Diner. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/burnout.gif

[Tommy]

[ QUOTE ]
Let me explain, in the Nova deal there is a never fired LS-7 GM crate motor from 1974. John first wanted the 427 from the Nova and the LS-7 and not the car , so John bought the Nova complete and in tact. John was going to separate the 427 motor from the car, but John changed his mind and decided to keep the Nova as his nostalgic drag car and sell his drag Chevelle car instead. That 's how it stands as of today, but who knows. John also doesn't post much and asked me to respond to the thread. No the car is not mine right now, it's Johns.

[/ QUOTE ]

I realize John may not post much and thats fine, I have been here since 01 and have less than 500 posts myself. I do feel that once a vehichle sells it should be the new owners that post any information unless they cannot post and ask someone to post more for them. I think it a courtesy that the former should bow out from posting more about it to cut down on confusion. I never felt good about posting anything about a car I sold because it wasn't mine anymore. I do have pictures of them in the garage though http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

Tommy http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif

[brgrman]

Try to get some Motion Valve covers, that we threw off the car because they were not original factory.

[brgrman]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Let me explain, in the Nova deal there is a never fired LS-7 GM crate motor from 1974. John first wanted the 427 from the Nova and the LS-7 and not the car , so John bought the Nova complete and in tact. John was going to separate the 427 motor from the car, but John changed his mind and decided to keep the Nova as his nostalgic drag car and sell his drag Chevelle car instead. That 's how it stands as of today, but who knows. John also doesn't post much and asked me to respond to the thread. No the car is not mine right now, it's Johns.

[/ QUOTE ]

I realize John may not post much and thats fine, I have been here since 01 and have less than 500 posts myself. I do feel that once a vehichle sells it should be the new owners that post any information unless they cannot post and ask someone to post more for them. I think it a courtesy that the former should bow out from posting more about it to cut down on confusion. I never felt good about posting anything about a car I sold because it wasn't mine anymore. I do have pictures of them in the garage though http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

Tommy http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

John did ask me to post for him, even now that he is owner of the car.

[Charley Lillard]

So a second engine went with the car ? A 74 LS7 crate engine ?

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

Darren is correct, I was a little 'twisted' at 17 years of age - now I'm recovered, and like my stuff stock. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif Those pic's just show that I'm not a newbie, I partook in the craziness known as 'day 2'.

I stand by my initial statement; unless it's a storied race car, take it back to stock http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif

[Chevy454]

Locked per John's request...