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1970MotionNova
05-04-2008, 06:38 PM
I have a 1970 Motion Nova that I just finished the restoration on. The car was purchased in New Jersey and taken to Motion Performance to be modified by them. The original owner wanted to keep the original 396SS Motor, so Motion modified it to 425HP for him, stamped the motor, installed a stinger hood and corvette side exhaust and some 15" ET Wheels. The car is absolutely beautiful and has never even been driven down the road yet since the restoration has been finished. I even have the original metal hood that came with the car. The color is original Fathom Blue and it's one of the best looking colors I believe you could get on these cars. I believe the car that Motion used in all of their adds was Fathom Blue also. I am accepting offers on the car, if you would like to make a offer you can email me at [email protected]. I have created a folder on photobucket with tons of pics including restoration pics and finished pics also of the car. I will put a link below so you can take a look at the car. I do have the Joel Rosen letter on this car for verification that the car is a Motion car. I am blacking out the content of the letter so scammers will not start creating fake letters. If you have any questions please feel free to ask. I do have one gentleman that has been in contact with me since midway through the restoration. He will have first shot at the car. I have sent him the pics and information on the car and decided to go ahead and post the car here also in case he decides not to purchase it. Lots of people here on The Supercar Registry know about this car and it's only right that the car comes here first. The moderator says I have to post a asking price for the car here. I am asking $200,000 for the car. I have over $40,000 in restoration only in the car. If you would like to make me a reasonable offer feel free to email me.

Thanks, Jeff H.

http://s226.photobucket.com/albums/dd217/supachargedviper/

Mr70
05-04-2008, 06:41 PM
Welcome.
You have to state an exact price on cars & parts for sale here,not just ask for offers,or the ad will be deleted.A MUST READ WHEN SELLING (http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/52927/an/0/page/0#Post52927)
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif Car.

John
05-04-2008, 07:08 PM
I think he states he is asking $200,000 and will consider offers ....good luck with the sale http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

Mr70
05-04-2008, 07:42 PM
He later edited it after I posted to include an asking price,and I'm no Moderator.
Thanks Jeff. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

x Baldwin Motion
05-04-2008, 07:58 PM
http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd217/supachargedviper/1970MotionNovaFinished008.jpg

69 Post Sedan
05-04-2008, 08:29 PM
Sweeet!!!! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/Can-I-Have-It.gif

Shankin
05-04-2008, 09:15 PM
That is cool!

1969l78
05-04-2008, 09:26 PM
Very cool

PeteLeathersac
05-04-2008, 10:07 PM
Whttp://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gifW...looking great!.
More than a few of us here are interested in the history of any Motion modified cars so before this car sells, can you share any of the things learned about it and/or any car's visits to Motion?.
Have you uncovered any more information or similar examples of the engine stampings this car has?.
Do you know if the stinger hood originally installed was an A&A unit also is the one you have on it now an A&A unit or something different?.
Can you share what facts you uncovered about this car receiving the stinger hood, sidepipes and wheels during it's vist to Motion?.
Your ad suggests the flat hood you have w/ the deal is the original hood removed when the first stinger was installed...is this so?.

Thanks and best to you whatever you do w/ the car!.
And are you not going to drive it before it sells...even once?!
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~ Pete

1970MotionNova
05-04-2008, 11:30 PM
Well for the first thing it's kind of hard getting information out of a company that didn't keep up with paperwork very well at all. I do have the letter from Mr. Rosen that states the car came to Motion Performance to be modified. That's all that was recieved for $2,000........lol. The engine is stamped Motion Perf and it has 2 stampings of 3350 on each side of the motor and this matches the 3350 stamp that is on the drivers side in front of the vin plate under the piece between the hood and the windshield. I believe all these pictures are on the webpage I gave a link to. The stinger hood and side exhausts were removed from the car and tossed(Sad, Sad, Sad) and a metal hood and dual exhaust system was installed on the car. You can see a pic of this car in 1980 with the regular hood and exhaust on it in the pics also. I talked to a gentleman that lived in the same neighborhood the owner lived in and he said that the car had the stinger hood and side exhaust on the car originally in the early 70's. I tell you what kind of trips me out is this statement off the Baldwin Motion History site. Here is a paste of what it says: There is on Phase III - 396 Motion car floating around. A 1970 I believe. The customer wanted to keep the 396, the engine had the phase III goodies installed and it's invoiced as a Phase III. I have no ideal if this is that car because Motion themselves were modifying cars as well and not all cars were delivered through Baldwin Chevrolet. Here is another paste off the Motion History site: Not all cars modified by Motion Performance were delivered through Baldwin Chevrolet, (especially after Baldwin Chevrolet went out of biz). Stand alone Motion Performance Automobiles are generally called Conversions. Anyway, the car has the stampings that it is supposed to and has been verified by Joel Rosen's letter so I guess that's as good as it gets. If anyone knows anymore about this car please feel free to share the information with me. And she is a beauty, no doubt!!

JoeG
05-05-2008, 02:27 AM
Great car--Glad you got it all back together---
One point though,I believe that PhaseIII 396 in the Motion history is the '69B/M Chevelle I own----It should have read '69 . The Chevelle is invoiced as a PhaseIII 396/375.
I believe it was the only B/M PhaseIII 396 Motion sold.......... Joe.http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

NovaMob03
05-05-2008, 03:36 AM
It's nice to see a car come full circle now & again & one reason this site is so cool.
When lomile posted it for sale on 2/13/06 it was a 'could it be?' Motion Nova for a paltry $14,500. All of us had a shot at it, but only Robbie was smart enough to pull the trigger. Then Jeff was smart enough to buy it from Robbie.
The Nova turned out very nice IMO. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif
Congrats & good luck http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

Nova Jed
05-05-2008, 05:54 AM
WOW! Now that is a very cool car! I wish I would have painted mine the Fathom Blue. Killer! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/headbang.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/drool.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/drool.gif

AutoInsane
05-05-2008, 06:33 AM
Here is the thread on the car from the Baldwin Motion section of the forum:

www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/248534/page/0/fpart/1/vc/1 (http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/248534/page/0/fpart/1/vc/1)

YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY
05-05-2008, 05:38 PM
""it has 2 stampings of 3350 on each side of the motor and this matches the 3350 stamp that is on the drivers side in front of the vin plate under the piece between the hood and the windshield.""


Can you explain a little further how/why the number 3350 is stamped on the engine and on something between the hood and windshield? Were you referring to the trim tag?

I have a hunch as to what that number refers to, and would be surprised to see it elsewhere on the actual car...

Mr70
05-05-2008, 06:12 PM
I thought I read in the past that was typical of an invoice/jobber number,(or at least the end digits),that Joel assigned a vehicle while modifing it,or something like that.

YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY
05-05-2008, 07:16 PM
That is my understanding as well, so I'd be suspect it the same number was found anywhere on the car itself.

1970MotionNova
05-05-2008, 07:59 PM
Sorry, I mean there is 3 stampings which is the order number on the motor itself. 1 3350 on the same end as the Motion Perf stamp and 2 stampings on the opposite end of the motor. When talking to Joel he said it was the order number.

Thanks, Jeff H.

YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY
05-05-2008, 08:48 PM
Ok, that sounds more plausible. The way your prior response was worded it sounded like there was somewhere on the car betw/ the windshield and the firewall that had this number stamped as well.

bkhpah
05-06-2008, 05:04 AM
A shameless plug for the car to be at the "68-70 Hi-Performance Nova Spectacular" at fall Vette-Fest..BKH http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

ORIGLS6
05-06-2008, 06:09 AM
I'll second that! Would make a great addition to an already Super Lineup! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

pSYCo
05-13-2008, 12:42 AM
B R I N G I T !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Chevy454
05-13-2008, 06:41 PM
Or maybe even the Supercar Reunion... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

ORIGLS6
05-13-2008, 06:51 PM
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And maybe even the Supercar Reunion... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

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1970MotionNova
05-16-2008, 04:24 AM
Just so everyone will know. This car will be listed on Ebay this Saturday and will run for 1 week and will be sold to the highest bidder. I need to move the car so keep a eye on Ebay for it. This would be a great car for someone to purchase and take it to it's first show and win big.

Thanks, Jeff H.

1970MotionNova
05-18-2008, 02:36 AM
Link to the Ebay auction is below:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayIS...E:IT&ih=009 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=190223134100&ssPa geName=STRK:MESE:IT&ih=009)

bashton
05-19-2008, 11:09 PM
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Or maybe even the Supercar Reunion... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

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Without a doubt, needs to be at BOTH! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

BA

ORIGLS6
05-19-2008, 11:30 PM
Hope someone steps up to the plate on this and brings it to VF.............. (or maybe the current owner will change his mind and bring it!!! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif)

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif car!

x Baldwin Motion
05-23-2008, 01:50 AM
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Link to the Ebay auction is below:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayIS...E:IT&ih=009 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=190223134100&ssPa geName=STRK:MESE:IT&ih=009)

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Current bid: US $111,000.00

1970MotionNova
05-23-2008, 06:09 PM
I lowered the Reserve on the car and it has been met at $111,100. I have tons of people watching this auction and the car will go to the high bidder. Someone is going to get one heck of a deal, and I am really stupid for this but I trust people will bid to win. If it doesn't then I guess.........http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/JeffSucksToo.gif.......lol

Thanks, Jeff H.

ORIGLS6
05-23-2008, 06:31 PM
Jeff,

If the successful bidder isn't already a member here, make it a condition of the sale! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Good Luck. Hope she goes to a good home. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif

bashton
05-23-2008, 06:41 PM
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Jeff,

If the successful bidder isn't already a member here, make it a condition of the sale! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Good Luck. Hope she goes to a good home. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif

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And don't forget that commitment to have it shown at both SCR and VF!!! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

BA http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif

1970MotionNova
05-23-2008, 07:35 PM
Oh, I will do!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This is a great site and I want to thank everyone on their excellent comments and their vast knowledge. This site is the BOMB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks, Jeff H.