COPO 427 engine value??

[Dragway_Ripper]

Hey guys, a buddy of mine scored at an estate sale with an original 1968(?) COPO 427. We checked the numbers and everything is right. Block, heads, intake manifold and exhaust manifolds. Apparently it had been rebuilt or freshened up fairly recently and fired right up, runs and sounds great. Any ideas on value? There not selling it but we're wondering just for kicks. They want to run headers and a tunnel ram which I think is a bad move for the engine from a historical point of view, but it's theres... Any thoughts?
-Dean

[427.060]

Casting numbers and dates as well as the numbers on the front pad are needed to determine the valve.
James

[TDW]

Dean...If you want to spend a few mins, look through the parts for sale section on the site. There have been a few listed here and you can get a pretty good idea of what they are worth.

[Jeff H]

Hopefully you mean a 69 dated COPO 427 motor. What are the casting #'s, dates and engine code on the pad? That information will help determine what it is for sure. Also, look for a partial VIN in the rough cast vertical area by the oil filter.

http://www.camaros.org/images/decode/1969_V8engine_alt_stamp_location.jpg

image courtesy of CRG

[Dragway_Ripper]

I dont have the full numbers off hand but I know it was the COPO "MN" code on the front pad. They checked out the other numbers as well and they spec'd out I guess...
-Dean

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

Was 'MN' used in '68 as an RPO?

[PeteLeathersac]

The '68 part is probably from casting dates?.
Is it a 512 block...and is there a distrib there too, & the #'s?.
Can you lay all the stamped info on us?.
The closest BB suffix to be confused could be the MH which was an L36 Vette motor...I believe all other MN's were SB?.
As far as the $ value question goes, ChucKing probably has a better idea than anyone on what these actually will reach?.
Important is retrieving and providing the Vin as mentioned above as this could prove interesting also have an impact on the value?.

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~ Pete

[Unreal]

Wouldn't a 68 big block COPO motor be one-of-one?

[Jeff H]

MN would be a 69 motor. Was the casting date late 68 or is possible you're looking at a "9" in the casting and seeing it as an "8"? We definitely need more information to help out. That being said, an MN coded motor in CT would make me think Scuncio. Did you check for the partial VIN down along the flange by the oil filter?

[JChlupsa]

What estate auction was it and where? Was it in a Car or engine by itself?

[joey]

I tell you folks the truth and get hammered on ,someone else comes on here to jerk your chain and you all bite,I think it was at elvis presleys estate auction and they bought it for a $1 everyone else wanted the record junk.Oh and the new owner is going to bore it to a 454 just for kicks he is also going to weld up the outside main cap holes to save on bolts and just use 2 instead of 4, as for the value its worth $10 per 100 lbs in scrap.Yall have a great day and quit being suckers http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/scholar.gif

[427king]

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Oh and the new owner is going to bore it to a 454

[/ QUOTE ] Joey, heres some free advice , a 427 and a 454 have the same exact bore And please dont use Elvis Presleys' name in vain.

[joey]

I know the bore http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif but I dont think some of the people on here will get it http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gifElvis is not dead he was in Piegon forge just last week http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif

[JChlupsa]

here have another http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[427king]

Like Alan Jackson says "its five oclock[happy hour] somewhere". http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

I don't find this guy's story to be unbelievable - he's asking a very simple question. It's not like he pulled it out of the river bottom or something!

BTW, if it's in CT, I wouldn't jump towards Scuncio as there were several Yenko dealers in CT as well - think OG '69 Yenko Camaro. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif

[Mr70]

Austin Chevrolet?

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

Yep, that's one of them!

[joey]

Wow the pms and emails and responce on this post, Looks like I called this one right. No it just happened to be in a estate sale no one knew about and there gona trash the originality and he says all the numbers were correct but cant tell you what they were now ,I guess its short term memory loss. Ok for all the emails hes going to dremmel tool the block for the 454 crank may even use a hammer and chissel since he dosen't have to bore it.

[rubbinisracing]

less joey!

[JChlupsa]

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No it just happened to be in a estate sale no one knew about

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not a true statement, I heard about it just been busy trying to track down just when and where it was to happen. I had a few places that I was told sometime back that they were to auction off a 68 427 car and they told me they dont auction cars when in fact I know they did. Now if it was one of them and I have emails and phone messages from them telling me its not them and it happens to be them what recorse would I have since they lied and i was not allowed to bid

[wheelhop]

You ever walk into a room with a bunch of drunk people and don't know what's going on? That's how I feel in this thread!

[x Baldwin Motion]

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You ever walk into a room with a bunch of drunk people .............?

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http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif I always leave my drunk "people" outside, they're bad for the carpet.

[Jonesy]

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I tell you folks the truth and get hammered on ,someone else comes on here to jerk your chain and you all bite,I think it was at elvis presleys estate auction and they bought it for a $1 everyone else wanted the record junk.Oh and the new owner is going to bore it to a 454 just for kicks he is also going to weld up the outside main cap holes to save on bolts and just use 2 instead of 4, as for the value its worth $10 per 100 lbs in scrap.Yall have a great day and quit being suckers http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/scholar.gif

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"its worth $10 per 100 lbs in scrap."

Like this one? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif:

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/showflat...true#Post328432 (http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=0&Board=UBB5&Number=328432&Search page=1&Main=326089&Words=+joey&topic=&Search=true# Post328432)

[427king]

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so....Joey did you tell this guy to go pound sand when he called???

[/ QUOTE ] There is a difference between telling someone to go pound sand and telling them to go pound portland cement premix,plus its alot harder to "pound" as the gravel is a bit hard on the colon http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Dragway_Ripper]

Hey joey, how about I send you a pic of me giving you a thumbs up standing over the engine? The motor does exist, purchased at an estate sale and it runs great. Was in a car, but not the original or even correct model. I'm going over to my buddie's house tomorrow and will get the details.
-Dean

[joey]

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Now if it was one of them and I have emails and phone messages from them telling me its not them and it happens to be them what recorse would I have since they lied and i was not allowed to bid

[/ QUOTE ] You have no recorse because the auction company works for the seller not the buyer.However if this happened Im sure the seller would be interested and would have recorse,But no auction company is going to turn away a serious bidder because thats were there income comes from.

[joey]

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Hey joey, how about I send you a pic of me giving you a thumbs up standing over the engine? The motor does exist, purchased at an estate sale and it runs great. Was in a car, but not the original or even correct model. I'm going over to my buddie's house tomorrow and will get the details.
-Dean

[/ QUOTE ] sure why dont you just do that. I will not be waiting on the pics because im not a sucker but you can still tease the rest of them on here!!! also provide a copy of the auction house sales reciept as there are a few folks who have rare motors in there car and in there shops and a pic is easy but not prof of your story.

[Dragway_Ripper]

LOL oh thats great, I'll do better than that I'll send you one of the vin with my name next to it. I own a vintage drag car collection myself I have no reason to be pulling anyone's chain. Don't go accusing before you know who the person is.
-Dean

[Mr70]

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[Xplantdad]

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LOL oh thats great, I'll do better than that I'll send you one of the vin with my name next to it. I own a vintage drag car collection myself I have no reason to be pulling anyone's chain. Don't go accusing before you know who the person is.
-Dean

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Dean...don't stoop to his level....let it go. It's all good. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[69 Post Sedan]

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif Laughing at the dude eating popcorn!

[Belair62]

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No it just happened to be in a estate sale no one knew about

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not a true statement, I heard about it just been busy trying to track down just when and where it was to happen. I had a few places that I was told sometime back that they were to auction off a 68 427 car and they told me they dont auction cars when in fact I know they did. Now if it was one of them and I have emails and phone messages from them telling me its not them and it happens to be them what recorse would I have since they lied and i was not allowed to bid

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[YenkoYS-199Stinger]

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Mr. 70, Would you please pass the popcorn. -thanks...

I think that this is almost as good as the private pre-screening of Speed Racer that I got to see last night.

A little animation (joey) with real people blended in (everyone else)..........

[iluv69s]

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The motor does exist, purchased at an estate sale and it runs great. Was in a car, but not the original or even correct model. I'm going over to my buddie's house tomorrow and will get the details.
-Dean

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hey der Dean,

if your friend needs a hand towin da car home, i'll fire up my ZL-1 powered dually and stop by and give y'all some help...but I wont be able ta help 'til tomoor cuz dis here Hemi just done floated up outa da river and i'm fixin to nab it....... see y'all later...


(just kiddin' joey...but thanks for the memories!!)

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[COPO 70 RS/Z28]

I'm confused???

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

Any way in my book it's always noon somewhere in the world!

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[Steve Shauger]

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Hey joey, how about I send you a pic of me giving you a thumbs up standing over the engine? The motor does exist, purchased at an estate sale and it runs great. Was in a car, but not the original or even correct model. I'm going over to my buddie's house tomorrow and will get the details.
-Dean

[/ QUOTE ] sure why dont you just do that. I will not be waiting on the pics because im not a sucker but you can still tease the rest of them on here!!! also provide a copy of the auction house sales reciept as there are a few folks who have rare motors in there car and in there shops and a pic is easy but not prof of your story.

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Think about this joey:

If everybody thought before they spoke, the silence would be deafening.

It is better to keep one's mouth shut and be thought a fool than to open it and remove all doubt.

[ORIGLS6]

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It is better to keep one's mouth shut and be thought a fool than to open it and remove all doubt.

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<font color="red"> <u>joey</u> </font>
addict



http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif We may have an explanation.

[wheelhop]

If you are arguing with an idiot, you must ask yourself, who is the idiot?

[x Baldwin Motion]

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[firstgenaddict]

When a wise man and a fool argue... onlookers can rarely distinguish one from the other.

Benjamin Franklin

[joey]

Hmm no pics posted yesterday as he claimed he would do. Dosen't supprise me but I guess the suckers will continue to drool.

[parkbrau]

Hmm still no pics of those 68 heads. Remember those 68 heads you wanted to pawn joe? Give the guy a break, his Camera might be on the outs as well.

[SuperNovaSS]

Still no pics of the ZL1 in the truck or Hemi pulled out of the river either. We are still waiting Joey.


Jason

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

Yea, where's the pics of Noah's Ark? (why not? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif)

[COPO 70 RS/Z28]

Here ya go,

Easier to find than some of the other pics in this thread http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif

http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj121/70COPORSZ28/040426_Noahs_Ark_1.jpg

http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj121/70COPORSZ28/2115601526.jpg

It's "Numbers matching" "semi barn find" " survivor"

High miles though and the interiors a little rough

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[njsteve]

What's that in the red circle? Looks like Spongebob Squarepants.

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b216/nk15268/spongebob.gif

[COPO 70 RS/Z28]

It's a picture oh the side of Mt Ararat (sp ?). It is said to be the outline of of the ARK up at the top of the mountain.

It does look like a moldy sponge bob!!!

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Xplantdad]

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What's that in the red circle? Looks like Spongebob Squarepants.

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b216/nk15268/spongebob.gif

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Now THAT is funny! Also...the semi barn find survivor...LOL

Thanks for the laugh! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[Belair62]

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Mr70 weighs 700 lbs and is bed ridden from all the popcorn he has eaten around here !!

[joey]

all you had to do was go to ebay were I sold them!!
web page (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp;item=290183743325)

[joey]

Never will be any pics from me on those , the old man got mad after people started calling him.

[YenkoYS-199Stinger]

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Joey,

Your link to Evilbay gives a 404. But then again I guess we should have expected that coming from the source.


Mr. 70, would you mind please passing the popcorn again--thanks

[x Baldwin Motion]

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Joey,

Your link to Evilbay gives a 404......

[/ QUOTE ]
that's the same as an "ID ten T ", right?