1970 L78 Nova SS - Cash or Cash Plus Trade

[Als 70 L78 Nova]

You can see it here:

http://www.cars-on-line.com/37123.html

The photo link is here:

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v295/dillon14/L78%20on%20eBay/

Info here:

Here is just a partial list of what has been done to my L78 Nova SS:

· Frame Off Restoration;

· Rebuilt Engine and Heads;

o Bored 60 Over;

o TRW Forged Pistons;

o Reconditioned Rods;

o Crank Turned 10 & 10;

o New Blueprinted Solid Lifter Cam and Lifters;

o New Timing Set;

o New Oil Pump;

o New Rings and Bearings;

o Flywheel Machined;

o New U-Joints;

o New Clutch, Pressure Plate and Throw-out bearing;

o Reconditioned Holley 4557 Carburetor;

o Reconditioned 1100837 Alternator;

o Reconditioned 1108418 Starter;

o Reconditioned 3969811 Water Pump;

o New Power Brake Booster;

o Heads Reconditioned by Top Machine Shop in State.

· New Interior - Complete;

· New Steering Wheel;

· New Diamondback Radial Redlines;

· New Brake Lines, Hoses and Booster;

· New Gas Tank, Sending Unit and Lines;

· New Front and Rear Bumpers;

· New Emblems;

· New Radiator, Hoses and Clamps;

· New Coil Springs and Shocks;

· New Date Coded Plug Wires;

· New and Correct Maintenance Free GM Battery and Battery Cables;

· New Valve Covers;

· New Clutch, Pressure Plate and Throw Out Bearing;

· New Weather-strip;

· New Dash;

· Front End Alignment Just Completed;

· Reconditioned Dual Snorkel Air Cleaner (not an original).


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[Als 70 L78 Nova]

Sorry, I neglected to post the price. $49,900 Cash or Cash plus Trade.

[TimG]

Al, you really did a great job of showing all the important numbers on this car. Good pictures. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

[Als 70 L78 Nova]

Tim, Thanks a lot. I figure you might as well show it up front because any serious buyer will want to see it later.

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

Gotta get another row of rocker moldings, you only have half the set on there!

[67BelAir427]

Al, Last time the car was listed on E Bay you had a "Buy it Now" of $44,950. Is that still the number that will buy the car? Thanks, Marc

[JRSully]

It was $44,000 on Steves Nova site.?

[Als 70 L78 Nova]

Yes, $44,950 will buy the car.

Al

[J PAUL]

Why has this car not been sold?

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

'cause it needs more rocker moldings and windshield wipers! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Als 70 L78 Nova]

Wipers are on the car now and I am not sure what is meant by: "Gotta get another row of rocker moldings, you only have half the set on there!"

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

Somebody find a pic of the correct rocker molding setup.

[WILMASBOYL78]

Al, correct setup has 2 rows of moldings...lower section is the wide part with ribs and then a thin molding above it. Light colored cars got a black accent between the moldings...darker colors did not.

Like this....

http://www.yenko.net/attachments/346157-tn_69silver.jpg

[WILMASBOYL78]

Dark color with rocker trim....BB Benny's car

http://www.yenko.net/attachments/346160-tn_benny69.jpg

[Als 70 L78 Nova]

Don't recall ever seeing a Nova with that double trim.

Thanks for the information. I love it when I can add to my knowledge base for the muscle cars.

[1969l78]

My little grandma car has same thing on bottom.


http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s240/1969l78/Picture640.jpg

[67BelAir427]

Mine too...

[47Hammer]

My car had both as well and was originally a 307 base car.

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a321/megavin/Driverside-1.jpg

[J PAUL]

What is the accessory code that would indicate a Nova would have rocker molding? If you have a vinyl top and on your trim tag the number 3 is present what options should your car have? What about the number 2? Please help.

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

You might want to throw some smog equipment on there and add the TCS stuff. The SB core support should also be addressed. It doesn't sound like much, but for the asking price a lot of folks expect those items to be there. They can live with the m/cylinder, painted hinges, non-SS headlight frames, non-painted fender gills, etc... which are more minor fixes.

[JRSully]

I would pull it off the market if you don't get your number. As Marlin stated, people paying that kind of money generally know the right and wrong items. It appears that most of the stuff is somewhat minor. Fix it, re word the ad indicating you corrected the following items.. yada yada. It will probably go quick at that point and probably for a little more $$ Good luck with it.

[J PAUL]

Who can help me with the accessory codes which indicate proper options with proper codes?

[Salvatore]

Are you Jeff Grote's partner? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

[Tommy]

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'cause it needs more rocker moldings and windshield wipers! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

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If I am not mistaken, RPO ZJ2 changed in 71 to not include the upper moldings. If this is a late 70 car it may not have gotten them. Nice car, it does need a few things but it's a super nice Nova. I don't see where it has to have Smog though, I see one manifold with plugs and one without so did it have smog originally or not? If not, I would change the LH manifold and not ugly it up with the smog junk. If the Nova is supposed to have the BB core support, I would find one quickly.


Tommy http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/burnout.gif

[JRSully]

All 68-70 L78's were smogged (except some Canada)A complete original smog system will be big $$

[Salvatore]

Thats why you got to piece one together. Those things are truly a waste of money when all we did was throw them out! JMO

[ktownkid]

I agree with Tommy about the molding......... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

ktownkid

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

That's the first I've heard about the molding - so maybe it's correct? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

[WILMASBOYL78]

The molding issue is really a non-issue since the car has a single "A" on the trim tag...it had no exterior decorations.

wilma





http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v295/d...nt=BodyTag2.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v295/dillon14/L78%20on%20eBay/?action=view&current=BodyTag2.jpg)

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

Where's the TT pic?

[JRSully]

That car didn't have any trim on it when I looked at it prior to Al buying/restoring it

[WILMASBOYL78]

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Where's the TT pic?

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http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v295/d...nt=BodyTag2.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v295/dillon14/L78%20on%20eBay/?action=view&current=BodyTag2.jpg)

[1969l78]

Was the tag removed ever?

[Als 70 L78 Nova]

As an FYI, the tag was never removed when I restored the car.

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

TW has a valid point, according to our TT research, if there is no single digit number from 1-3 after the 'A' on the bottom row of the TT - then there shouldn't be any moldings on the car. So, it went from 1 set short, to 1 set too many! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

In reality, it's more work to remove the set that's on there, so it probably makes more sense to simply add the upper row and dress it up a bit. Rarely does someone poo-poo a Nova bec/ of a little gingerbread, it's when people short change the resto by not reinstalling the expensive moldings that a buyer looks elswhere.

Overall, how can you go wrong with fathom blue! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

[1969l78]

That is my second favorite color--next to Dusk blue http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif

[Salvatore]

wait a minute...I thought it was Lemans blue! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif

[1969l78]

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wait a minute...I thought it was Lemans blue! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif

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Ok any blue nova http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[J PAUL]

Marlin...

Who can tell me what code(s) are associated with the correct exterior / trim option(s):

A1 ?
A2 ?
A3 ? Thanks

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

The 'A' is a separate code altogether, and does not relate to the exterior. The single letter code indicates the color of various interior items and/or interior paint color. The 'A' indicates black, 'B' is blue, 'S' is sandlewood, etc...

The single digit after the single letter indicates the number of exterior moldings that were installed on the car. Although there were 4 exterior moldings, the max installed on a given car is 3. We believe that the rocker moldings were not included in this single digit number, but we need more info for that conclusion. So for now the possible moldings would be drip rail, door frame, body side and rockers. The only required molding would be the drip rail when a v/t is on the TT.

[J PAUL]

Marlin,

Thanks for the input concerning the exterior options! My last question is my small block has on the TT. A 3. As you mentioned the A is black interior. The TT calls for a VT. What 3 exterior options should be on the car since the drip rail is needed for the VT? You should charge by the answer and not the hour.

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

Hah! I can't charge for this answer bec/ I don't know it http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

When you have a 3 on the TT, it is most likely d/rail, d/frame and body side. That is the most common combo, even for cars without a v/t - like my '69. For your car the d/rail is a given, and the body side moldings will have pegs spot welded to the body sides - making them a given. The upper row of rocker moldings are also pegged (I believe), so if you have pegs - they are a given. It's the door frame moldings that give us fits, as there is really no telltale sign that a car came with them or not. However, if you've got a 3 on the TT, and no pegs for rocker moldings - that pretty much leaves you with door frame moldings.

BTW, if someone ground off the pegs for the body side molding, and then repainted the car, you can still usually tell if the car had them. Look at the ends of the door skin, on the inside, right where the skin wraps around the door frame. There will be a hole there that was filled in, on both ends - but the door latch end is obviously much easier to see. This is because the body side molding for the doors is pegged on, except for the ends - which are screwed, thereby requiring a small hole through the frame/skin, and a unique clip inside the molding to accept a machine screw. So, look for those holes to be repaired.

[JRSully]

A way to tell what door frame mouldings the car came with is to look at the 1/4 window "hockey stick" or moulding that goes around the rear of the 1/4 glass and across the top. Normally this is not removed due to 1. a PITA to remove and not destroy it. 2. It keeps a lot of water/junk from entering that area. Hit it with a magnet, if it sticks, it is the steel version (not the polished alum)and the car probably didn't have the polished alum door frame moldings. Again, this is assmuming the car has not been messed with moulding wise