Re: 68 COPO CAMARO EBAY?
 

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Regardless of the rivets, if that Cowl tag is the original to the car although possible it was an L78 car it certainly was/is not a 9737 Copo car..

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I did not read anything in the ad indicating the seller stating it was a 9737 car.

Was the COPO process used when ordering a non standard color on a 1968 Camaro? If so, I guess that is why the seller is stating it is a COPO.

I know with Chryslers the color code on the fender tag would show as either 99 or 999 for a special order color. With that code there is no way to determine the actual original color of the car. You have to find some of the original paint on the car.

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The reason I specifically stated it's not a Copo 9737 car is that's the Copo # for the Sports Car Conversion package in 1968 and what it appears the seller is trying to allude to by referring to it as a Copo Camaro...regardless of his knowing of or stating the Copo 9737 #..

Whether this car is an original special paint car or not, unless perhaps a fleet order of the same color and equipped cars were requested, although cool and uncommon it's doubtful any Copo designation would've been necessary to process the order..

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Re: 68 COPO CAMARO EBAY?
 

I guess the next question is, where is there proof that this car was Verdoro Green as you certainly can't tell by the trim tag?

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I guess I read the ad a little differently. I don't think he is saying it is a 427 car, in fact he says it has the numbers matching V.I.N. stamped 396 and M22 with it.

The only reference the seller makes to COPO have to do with the paint and reference to other Verdoro green cars that were hipo cars. That is why I asked if special order paint cars were done through the COPO process.

I am sure you are aware that a Central Office Production Order does not necessarily mean it is a special order engine of sports car prep package. That process was used for many non standard type orders. I am GUESSING that like with Chrysler special order items such as paint, that is how GM did it?

I know that when I ordered a 1971 4 door Coronet in Plum Crazy for a woman that we called the factory sales rep as the color was not available on that car. He said to send the order to him with the color code on the order form and he would handle it. In that case it already had a factory color code as the color was available on hipo cars. However, our dealership also used to order trucks for a utility company in Omaha Orange which we did NOT have a factory color code for. Certainly there had to be a paint man. number on the broadcast sheet so the assembly plant knew what to paint it with as the paint code on the sheet in the color code area would be 999. There is a remarks section on a Chrysler broadcast sheet for these types of things. Is it the same with GM? I doubt that Chevrolet would use a Pontiac paint code and would have to have a man. paint code for it, just like Chrysler.

"I have a letter from a former COPO employee stating the he recalls a limited number of 68 camaros ordered in pontiac verdoro green and most of those had the high performance engine trans combo.
The car was special ordered through COPO in 1968 in Pontiac Verdoro Green originally in California. Paint code is stamped on trim tag (Q-Q). This is rare as these were often simply left blank or had a – when a custom color was ordered."

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I think it is nothing more than a very vast exageration of the COPO program. Sure the car may be special in that it came special ordered paint color but that does not make it a COPO car. I think this guy has been talking to the brothers in NJ with the so called "Yenko" Chevelle on how to market this otherwise fairly worthless car.

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The only thing I can say is the guy that hosts the show puts me to sleep!

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The only thing I can say is the guy that hosts the show puts me to sleep!

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https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/confused.gif Kurt....sleep posting? I'm guessing you were aiming for the Chop Cut Rebuild thread!! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ins/tongue.gif

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Oops...yep...nevermind!!!

The worst part about that post is I haven't even had a beer yet! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

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Sounds like he's talking about Jim Mattison's post a few years back about special paint cars.
Special paint isn't a COPO, though it also went thru the Central Office. COPO's required engineering, fleets and special paint didn't.

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Sounds like he's talking about Jim Mattison's post a few years back about special paint cars.
Special paint isn't a COPO, though it also went thru the Central Office. COPO's required engineering, fleets and special paint didn't.

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That is a contridictory statement. If the order for special paint was ordered through the Central Office Production Order process then it IS a COPO car. I may not be what people have come to expect a COPO car is but that is only because of what certain people in the hobby have come to expect of a certain label. There were lots of different reasons for and order to go through the central office rather than the normal dealer order process.

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Sounds like he's talking about Jim Mattison's post a few years back about special paint cars.
Special paint isn't a COPO, though it also went thru the Central Office. COPO's required engineering, fleets and special paint didn't.

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That is a contridictory statement. If the order for special paint was ordered through the Central Office Production Order process then it IS a COPO car. I may not be what people have come to expect a COPO car is but that is only because of what certain people in the hobby have come to expect of a certain label. There were lots of different reasons for and order to go through the central office rather than the normal dealer order process.

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Is there some difference in the process depending on what you were ordering? For example, was there no difference in paperwork between a special color and something more complicated like a 427 Camaro that might explain the difference in terminology? Or have we just made "COPO" synonymous with "something cool"?