Re: 67 SS RS camaro l78
 

Thanks Mark, that's what I love about this site.

Re: 67 SS RS camaro l78
 

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: camaromb</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The tag is a reproduction, too early for L78. Looks like current owner got stuck with a fake car. </div></div>

What is the earliest build date for a 4K Camaro, a real one.
Thanks

Re: 67 SS RS camaro l78
 

Grumpy Jenkins had the 1st l78 but it was a 4 p on the cowl tag. The 2nd was the pace car that paced the Indy race. I believe 4k came on the cowl tag 1st week of April. Grumpy's car was 2nd week of March?

Re: 67 SS RS camaro l78
 

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: luzl78</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Grumpy Jenkins had the 1st l78 but it was a 4 p on the cowl tag. The 2nd was the pace car that paced the Indy race. I believe 4k came on the cowl tag 1st week of April. Grumpy's car was 2nd week of March? </div></div>

Not quite the # 92 track pace car built 3C, was the first camaro built with an L78. Yes it was coded 4P and is documented with Protectoplate identifying the original production installed drivetrain. Chevy engineering later changed it from a L78 4spd to a L35/34 automatic.

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Oh contrare, monfrare. Grumpy' car was built before the pacer. I believe charley, who owned the pacer, has agreed to this. I think this was a long winded conversation years ago. I think grumpy' was 3b.

Re: 67 SS RS camaro l78
 

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: luzl78</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Oh contrare, monfrare. Grumpy' car was built before the pacer. I believe charley, who owned the pacer, has agreed to this. I think this was a long winded conversation years ago. I think grumpy' was 3b. </div></div>

Well the pace car is 2400 Vin before Grumps and thought the TT identified it as built a week before( this was debated 6 years ago). The only rub is that some believe it wasn't the first produced because the engine was switched by Chevrolet engineering to the L35/34 configuration. So some believe since it wasn't delivered/sold as an L78 it wasn't the first one. We can split hairs but to me it was the first L78 camaro off the assemblyline which in my opinion defines it as the first. The latest info may define the backup pace car as the first L78 so Grumps may in fact be the third.

Re: 67 SS RS camaro l78
 

Grumpys car was probably the third L78. The # 1 and 2 Pace cars were built before it. The # 2 car might be the first. As I recall CRG also agrees that the Pace Cars were built before Grumpys.

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I stand corrected. Has grumps 67 l78 been found?

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I personally looked at this car on the way home from Mcacn on Monday morning. Thanks to Steve for stopping me as I was going to buy it. A few things didn't add up but I thought the tag was real. After speaking with him I started to figure things out. It was a nice car with the work that was done so far.

Re: 67 SS RS camaro l78
 

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: luzl78</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I stand corrected. Has grumps 67 l78 been found?</div></div>

Isn't that the Kimball Bros. car that Grump sold them right after the 67 season?
That was totally restored by the Kimball's and was at Carlisle a few years ago.
Car has been sold for big money I believe. I think one of the Bros. just passed away.
Correct me if I am wrong on this.