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skierkaj 11-18-2003 10:54 PM

Re: Possible Yenko SOLD on e-bay/Second Thread
 
Congrats from me too! Most guys would agree that finding a Yenko for that price is everyones dream. In response to all the shinanagins going on; Just because you won an ebay auction, doesn't mean the seller has to sell. It is his car, and he can do what he wants with it, whether that be a private sale behind the high bidder's back, or something else. If the seller has good character, he will do the "right" thing.

farone 11-18-2003 10:59 PM

Re: Possible Yenko SOLD on e-bay/Second Thread
 
JUST FOR YOUR INFORMATION, I AM THE THIRD PERSON INVOLVED WITH BKH AND BRIAN POTTER ON THIS DEAL... THAT'S WHO THE HELL I AM. SO YOU THOUGHT WRONG... CLINT...

jfkheat 11-18-2003 11:02 PM

Re: Possible Yenko SOLD on e-bay/Second Thread
 
If the seller doesn't end the auction early and cancel all bids he is required to sell to the highest bidder. Unless there is a reserve and the reserve is not met. An Ebay auction is a legal binding contract.
James

Mark_C 11-18-2003 11:08 PM

Re: Possible Yenko SOLD on e-bay/Second Thread
 
Who's willing to lay down some cash that someone got quickrods email address, offered to float him the difference between 5500 and 8800 plus a nice finders fee if he completeed the transaction.

Dollars to donuts says that car never sees quickrods garage. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif[/img]

Just my opinion of course, after reading all the previous posts on this. Hope it's no one that frequents this site.

jg95z28 11-18-2003 11:19 PM

Re: Possible Yenko SOLD on e-bay/Second Thread
 
Unbiased opinion here.

The person that everyone should be screaming at is the Seller (ken6769). Obviously this guy had no clue he was selling a Yenko, otherwise he would have set his reserve price higher.

If he found that out before the auction closed; he must have figured Yenko enthusiasts would see the auction and the price would have gone much higher. Since the information on the item had changed he could have cancelled the auction legally because the information was incorrect and reauctioned it later.

Secondly, he could have ended the auction at anytime, before the closing time, even after the reserve was met, simplying stating that he sold it off of ebay. It sounds like according to Duane (quickrod1) that is kind of what happened, however the seller kept the auction going (probably hoping to get a better deal).

Once the auction ended and the reserve was met, under the terms of ebay, ken6769 and quickrod1 had a binding contract. Furthermore, since quickrod1 had met the terms of the sale ($1000 deposit down) he has met the initial terms of that contract.

If for some reason ken6769 and quickrod1 failed to close the deal, then ken6769 could offer the car to bkhpah (farone), however, I don't believe there is anything binding in the ebay terms of the sale that requires him to do so.

If you follow the ebay terms to the letter, Duane(quickrod1) did in fact win the auction and is owed a product by ken6769, since he has met the auction terms.

Unfortunately for Duane, if ken6769 decides to cheat him out of the deal, there isn't much ebay will do, other than allow Duane to give him negative feedback.

However, if Duane mailed his deposit to ken6769, there is still a possibility of going after ken6769 for mail fraud, which would be a Federal offense. (Check with your local authorities.)

I don't blame anyone for trying to make a back door deal before the fact. While trying to do so after the auction has closed goes against the principles of ebay, it technically isn't illegal if they weren't involved with the original auction. However, what is quite evident is that the person everyone should really be upset with, is the seller, ken6769.

Anyway, just my unbiased observation.






Charley Lillard 11-18-2003 11:24 PM

Re: Possible Yenko SOLD on e-bay/Second Thread
 
If Duane really is Quickrod and what he is saying is true than I think the problem lies with the seller. If he had already sold the car to Duane than how can anybody believe he was telling the truth about any of the other stuff. There are so many loopholes with Ebay now I doubt that any Ebay Auction is very Enforceable anymore. Do we have a real Name of the Seller ? If he really sold the car to Duane but was still trying to sell it to others than I would think someone should file a Complaint with Ebay. Brian, Brian,Clint and Frank... None of you really know what the seller was telling the other prospective buyers so you might want to slow down before slinging more Mud. Maybe the Seller would care to Chime in here ? In light of all that has transpired, I would like to see the actual vin and Title. The Seller has never said it was a Yenko so oops I mixed two of the #'s of the vin in my Ebay description...Probably not but in this wierd chain of events it would fit perfectly.

Belair62 11-18-2003 11:33 PM

Re: Possible Yenko SOLD on e-bay/Second Thread
 
Duane you are definitely in the drivers seat now !! Bet a lot of fresh new offers come your way...hold out for the most you can get !!! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif[/img]

Pantera 11-19-2003 12:11 AM

Re: Possible Yenko SOLD on e-bay/Second Thread
 
Heven forbid but there is also the remote posiabality that the car is a total fabrication and he is taking anybodys moneys and has skipped town? Has anyone seen a copy of the title or the vin #. There are all kinds of scams online and this would be a easy one to do and nobody would know how to find the guy later. I sure hope I am wrong and this works out for someone to wind up with a huge smile on their face.
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Clint_69 11-19-2003 12:29 AM

Re: Possible Yenko SOLD on e-bay/Second Thread
 
I will bet that I have a hard time getting my money back and I am sure that I will have to drag the seller through court to do so. $11,500 is not allot of money but it is certainly enough to pi$$ me off. Ferone: I did not realize that you were invloved in this deal but you spoke about my character before you had the facts about the deal. I understand that Brian and Brian are you friends but there is no reason to assasinate my character when you just do not understand what went on. If you look at my explaination logically, you will understand why I take offense to your statement.

sYc Yenko 11-19-2003 12:33 AM

Re: Possible Yenko SOLD on e-bay/Second Thread
 
Just my 2 cents,

Personally if i was the seller, And found out that the car was a real Yenko during or even after the acction, I would of contacted ebay and told them, look i made a mistake, I was not fully aware of what I was selling,Surley that can be justified, The main reson why I think this all got messy was the fact that the seller put the car up for sale, Not knowing it was a real yenko. And if it wan't for Mr Yenko, none of us would even be talking about this car.

Now if i was the seller I would put the car back on ebay, And let every one have a chance on going for it.

Like I said at the top of this post, This is just my 2 cents, And i don t wish to step on anyones toes.

Nick


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