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Don_Lightfoot 07-28-2005 03:28 AM

Re: Doing restorations across Canadian border?
 
John - very true, but even the Postal Service "sometimes" has the same brokerage fee, although it is usually a lot less than the Shipping Companies.

Jeff - I'll try to explain your question as best I can. Important to distinguish between duty and tax, here's an overview:

1) - Old, original parts are not subject to "duty" if they are over a certain age (25 years???), same as cars. However, the tax is still payable.

2) - New, reproduction parts for the old cars "should be" subject to both duty and taxes.

Parts up here are just too expensive which is why I order from the U.S. and have them shipped to a buddy in Syracuse. I'm down there several times a year and bring them back with me. On new, reproduction parts I tell the Customs officer they are for a 35 year old vehicle and they normally don't charge me duty, just the tax. It's just too miniscule for them to pursue that kind of stuff for the amounts involved. Obviusly, if they want to be a PITA, they could check each individual part.

Hopefully this provides some clarification.

Zedder 07-28-2005 05:56 AM

Re: Doing restorations across Canadian border?
 
There are no "duties" on parts/cars made in North America anymore, however there are taxes to be paid on the declared value of the car or parts - which the onus to prove the price is fair market value rests on the person importing the car/part. All "purchases" made for whatever reason (even the tires used in Jeff's example) are taxable at 7% GST and 8% PST for all hard goods; labor is taxable at 7% only. So yes Rick, the person sending a Canadian car into the US for work will have to pay taxes on EVERYTHING they pay for. Many people lie about the value and if they don't get caught, they're home free. If they do get caught, Canada Customs can confiscate the vehicle or parts FOR GOOD! This is why I would restore a car in the US before I brought it into Canada because I would only have to declare the value of the finished car, which as we know can be all over the place with these old relics https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/naughty.gif

camarojoe 07-28-2005 06:54 AM

Re: Doing restorations across Canadian border?
 
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So, you're saying they could be taxed twice? They could drive down, pay sales tax on the parts in the States...and yet you'd have to pay taxes again when you cross the border back to Canuckville, for what? Property tax? Can't be sales tax, the goods were sold in the US so that goes to Uncle Sam...could Canada really charge a tax for not doing anything? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif

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Totally off subject, but think how much in taxes is paid on cars right here in the USA...EVERY time a car changes hands that same car is taxed... If a single car is bought and sold enough times, "the man" can easily end up with as much in sales taxes on the car as its original purchase price when owner #1 initially BOUGHT it... I always thought that was quite the racket, and that sales tax should only be charged on new cars, when they are first sold to customer #1...after that you're paying tax on something that was already taxed once (or twice or 3 times!) Wishful thinking I know, but it seems silly that the sale of the same car can be taxed over and over again every time its transferred to a different person.

Chevy454 07-28-2005 06:57 AM

Re: Doing restorations across Canadian border?
 
I agree, Joe...I've griped about that for years...used to be, in Arkansas you only paid sales tax on new cars...but I believe they changed that a couple years back.

Lynn 07-28-2005 08:28 AM

Re: Doing restorations across Canadian border?
 
A while back a guy (who shall remain nameless) in Canada bought some parts on ebay from a guy (who shall remain me). He asked that I mark each box "antique auto parts value less than $20 US". I told him he would be out of luck if there were a damage claim, but he was willing to take the chance.

At the time I had no idea why.

Boy, was Eric Cartman right.

Lynn

Jeff Murphy 07-28-2005 03:04 PM

Re: Doing restorations across Canadian border?
 
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retengw31 08-02-2005 05:05 PM

Re: Doing restorations across Canadian border?
 
I got hassled bringing a coupla bumpers back from Ontario to Detroit by the US Customs guy. He was middle Eastern descent and barely spoke English. I couldn't understand what he was asking half the time and he got pissed at me when I asked him to talk slower.

Told him the bumpers were in there when I went up earlier in the day and no one asked about them then. He finally let me go. Wouldn't even look at my passport (which I did have with me).

You'd think they'd have more important things to be concerned with than an individual with some old car parts. Then again, though, maybe I was being "profiled"...???

Canucklehead 08-02-2005 07:46 PM

Re: Doing restorations across Canadian border?
 
Don't you hate it when people of ethnic origin are put in a position of assistance to the general public?. Not that im being racist it's just agrivating when these people can barely speak english!. Now that alot of companys are using india as an information centre it makes it hard to get your point across.

Mr70 08-02-2005 08:00 PM

Re: Doing restorations across Canadian border?
 
Quoi? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/confused.gif

kwhizz 08-02-2005 09:20 PM

Re: Doing restorations across Canadian border?
 
Bought a car out of Canada thru an Estate.....had to hire an agent to get it across the border.....when I went to register the car it was noted that the title was signed by the guys wife as he had passed away.....the title was only in the man's name........See where this is going.....
the local agency wouldn't accept the paperwork and wanted verification of the Death Certificate and notorization of the wifes signature......I bought the car from a 3rd party....It's still sitting waiting for it's turn with no paperwork.......
That's my Canada story......off topic......but still a story.........

Ken https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/flag.gif


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