The Supercar Registry - 69 Camaro Body in the Crate

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Re: 69 Camaro Body in the Crate

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They had one of those new Camaro bodies at Pavillions last weekend...We looked at it pretty closely.

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That we did. I inquired of the representative who had it on display there as to how the car would be titled/registered. She said the body is considered a "replacement part" and so if you already had an original car for which you were "replacing" the body, it is legal to swap the VIN and Trim Tags. That's pretty much the answer I figured I was gonna get https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/rolleyes.gif

Re: 69 Camaro Body in the Crate

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I inquired of the representative who had it on display there as to how the car would be titled/registered. She said the body is considered a "replacement part" and so if you already had an original car for which you were "replacing" the body, it is legal to swap the VIN and Trim Tags. That's pretty much the answer I figured I was gonna get https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/rolleyes.gif

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I knew that would be the kind of answer you would receive Bill. I was just waiting for someone to come forth and say it. This opens up a VERY big can of worms, for me anyway! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...thumbsdown.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...thumbsdown.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...thumbsdown.gif This type of stupidity really burns my A$$!

Re: 69 Camaro Body in the Crate

I'm sure that someone is watching this thread and where those bodies go very Carefully! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/rolleyes.gif

Re: 69 Camaro Body in the Crate

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I'm sure that someone is watching this thread and where those bodies go very Carefully! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/rolleyes.gif

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Suddenly, the importance of the original trim & VIN tags
will become a hot topic on eBay and let's all watch how the
prices soar on those........ https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif

Steve

Re: 69 Camaro Body in the Crate

I understand that there is a federal law that says if the original vin # is removed for any reason you have to file for a state assigned #. You can get into big trouble if you change it. At least that is the legal answer I recieved here in OKla.

Changing a vin #, even onto a new part is against the law. There are bound to be some big problems arrise over this one.
Someone is bound to screw it up for everyone trying to scam someone out of thier hard earned money.

Pantera

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I'm sure someone will document the many differences between the Fisher bodies and these new ones...at least I hope someone will...there has to be a ton of differences...

Re: 69 Camaro Body in the Crate

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They had one of those new Camaro bodies at Pavillions last weekend...We looked at it pretty closely.

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That we did. I inquired of the representative who had it on display there as to how the car would be titled/registered. She said the body is considered a "replacement part" and so if you already had an original car for which you were "replacing" the body, it is legal to swap the VIN and Trim Tags. That's pretty much the answer I figured I was gonna get https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/rolleyes.gif

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Bill, didn't she put a "mini" disclaimer in her statement saying that that way the law in Arizona...or something to that effect? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif

Hey...you guessed who the mystery guest at Pavillions was last weekend...it was you! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

Re: 69 Camaro Body in the Crate

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I understand that there is a federal law that says if the original vin # is removed for any reason you have to file for a state assigned #. You can get into big trouble if you change it. At least that is the legal answer I recieved here in OKla.

Changing a vin #, even onto a new part is against the law. There are bound to be some big problems arrise over this one.
Someone is bound to screw it up for everyone trying to scam someone out of thier hard earned money.

Pantera

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No it's not illegal. The replacement body is considered a repair part similar to a quarter panel or full floor section.

Reference USC title 18 section 511 sub section (b)(1)

"(b)(1) Subsection (a) of this section does not apply to a
removal, obliteration, tampering, or alteration by a person
specified in paragraph (2) of this subsection ( unless such person knows that the vehicle or part involved is stolen).

(2) The persons referred to in paragraph (1) of this subsection are -

(A) a motor vehicle scrap processor or a motor vehicle
demolisher who complies with applicable State law with respect to such vehicle or part;

 (B) a person who repairs such vehicle or part, if the removal, obliteration, tampering, or alteration is reasonably necessary for the repair;

(C) a person who restores or replaces an identification number for such vehicle or part in accordance with applicable State law;

and

(D) a person who removes, obliterates, tampers with, or alters a decal or device affixed to a motor vehicle pursuant to the Motor Vehicle Theft Prevention Act, if that person is the owner of the motor vehicle, or is authorized to remove, obliterate, tamper with or alter the decal or device by -
(i) the owner or his authorized agent; 

(ii) applicable State or local law; or

(iii) regulations promulgated by the Attorney General to implement the Motor Vehicle Theft Prevention Act.

http://uscode.house.gov/uscode-cgi/f...%28%29%20%20%2

Good discussion (one of many) took place on this subject on Camaros.net just about a year ago.

http://www.camaros.net/forums/showthread.php?t=54260

Re: 69 Camaro Body in the Crate

The New Camaros are dimensionally the same as the old ones.Aside from the already mentioned issue of incorrectly contoured convertable top bows,the body should be externally identical to an actual production car.The oval side marker lights on the show car are option,but the base body comes prepared to look like a production car.The first major difference that will help distinguish these cars from originlas is that some body assemblies that were orginally multi piece units with welded construction have been consolidated into single stamping components.Because of this,the reproduction car will be missing some seams and welds that were found on the original cars.Some of the undercarrage details and contours might not be as crisp on the repop as the original,but for the most part a side by side comparision would be needed to really show the difference.Other then that,these cars are supposed to be as close to original as possible.They are certaily closer to the real deal then any fiberglass 32 Ford body ever was.