Re: Photo of 68 Camaro's at Kenny Ross Chevrolet ?
 

Pete - how did u do that search on the 375#?

just google or special program??

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Nothing special here Eddie and just regular Googling w/ the # also word Aliquippa.
Are you going to try calling as someone from here really should before others do?

Back to the cars, below are a couple more '68 Yenko ads I missed when posting the others yesterday.
Love to hear what all known genuine '68 Yenko Camaros exist also more anything of the '68 9737 cars!
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Re: Photo 68 Camaro's/Kenny Ross + '68 Yenko 9737's
 

Hi Pete,

Your PM is maxed out.

I found two ads in the Tennessean dated Sun., 17 Mar 1968, pg. 67; and Sun., 28 Apr. 1968, pg. 48 for E. B. Smith Chevrolet in Nashville. These ads stand a good chance of being good, but I could not access and open these ads. I thought you might have luck with them, judging from what you've posted.

Thanks,
Bryan

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Yes, ill see if i can get my friend back home to make some calls.....

West Aliquippa was right next to river and the steel mill - used to have family there as well.

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Sounds great Eddie and best of luck!
Again, what of the 373 # in the other ad...Aliquippa area too?

I can't save pictures on this computer Bryan but do see the EB Smith ads you noted.
Please let me know if something specific you're after as other than regular Camaros, I don't see anything Yenko or 427/396?

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~ Pete

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EB Smith car is the CB car that is now in Iowa.


https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/ubbt...063#Post667598


So if there is another Yenko from EB Smith that is before July of 68 then there must have been more than one car from there.

Re: Photo 68 Camaro's/Kenny Ross + '68 Yenko 9737's
 

Thanks Pete and Darrell,

Yes, I was fishing for either an ad for 8063 or another one from E. B. Smith. Most dealers ordered more than one! Thanks for looking Pete.

Bryan

Re: Photo of 68 Camaro's at Kenny Ross Chevrolet ?
 

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bkhpah</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The front sway bar on 68' Yenkos was 1 1/16. There is different hardware that hold the bar to the frame and two additional frame brackets located inside the frame to support the bar.. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...7-dsc_0457.jpg
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The braces look like the ones for the Trans Am sway bar kits available from Chevrolet during the period. Much listed about them in the Trans Am forums on the CRG site.

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I used to work on exotic imports 2 blocks from Penn State on College Ave. Gemini Enterprises TAMR. Owners has a 67 Barracuda fastback drag car sits out front in the showroom. I git to work on the muscle cars. One professor had an unrest ore 70 AAR Cuda he bought as a leftover, plum crazy, column shift.

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&quot;Does the Desert Rat and/or other known '68 9737 cars all have this bar same setup?&quot;


Pete, Yes the Desert Rat had it's original big sway bar set up when found.
Thanks for the old ads, good reading...

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What was Yenko's fix when converting 4-spd car to auto as far as the tunnel goes?

Re: Photo of 68 Camaro's at Kenny Ross Chevrolet ?
 

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Bryan302</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Whoo-hooo, that's awesome, I've been wanting to see a copy of those ads, thanks Pete!

Now I have a few questions.

1. on the first page, Would the Island Teal car be considered an unconverted car also, to go along with Eddie's green car and the five Corvette Bronze cars? Does anyone know or suspect if this Island Teal car was converted?

2. The 325hp ash gold car, 400 turbo, 140 speedo! Was this a 9737 car?

3. The 425hp, ash gold car, specified as Yenko, 400 turbo. Was this a prototype or experiment? Was this car considered part of the 64 cars?

4. Has anyone noticed or compared the front steering components mentioned in the first paragraph on their cars to reflect this statement. The 1-1/16 stab. bar is known, but has anyone noticed the str. knuckles or pitman arm, etc., to be different or another casting number. Has ANYONE found an 850 carb. installed?, especially a List 3418, 3886091 AN, or possibly a list 4054, 3925519 AN? This is the third Yenko ad i've seen advertising a new 68 Yenko with an 850 carb!

Thanks, Bryan my new 68 yenko came with a 850 holley,....ys 8016 ralley green, just curious what do people think the carbs were??
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sorry about the last post, new to this site, was replying to the fact that my new 68 yenko came with a 850 holley, I relpaced it with a holley 3 barrel 1050cfm , when I modified the motor........and what carbs do most people think they came with?Also someone talked about ys 8012 does anyone know the selling dealer? thanks ys 8016........

Re: Photo of 68 Camaro's at Kenny Ross Chevrolet ?
 

Pete, as I bought new, ys 8016 at Jay Kline chevrolet in early 1968, and I posted this a number of years ago, ys 8016 was the first yenko sold by kline that year. Kline had all 6 yenkos in a separate showfloor, the show floor was called sports car headquarters.anyway I got a good look at all six, the whole years supply of yenkos. Back in those days it took about a week to secure financing, and insurance.I made about 3 trips back to kline chev during that week and of course looked at my new yenko every time, along with the other 5. the six were only 2 different colors, all had the same equipment, and price on the window sticker . that price as I said before was $4400 and change.none had the sw under dash guages, or the add on tach near the steering wheel. all had the factory in dash tach. I also worked as a salesman at Jay kline chevrolet in the mid 1970s and had access to their sales records.,,,,,

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8016,

It's good to hear from you. About the carbs. It is well known that the L78 (MQ) and COPO 9737 (MV) came with the 4053 DZ carb, which was designated as a 780 cfm. Yenko advertised his conversions as being supplied with an 850 cfm carb. Many of his ads state a 850 cfm carb being part of the conversion package. Some say that the 850 carb used was a L88 carb. Some say the DZ carb at 780 cfm was close enough to the 850 cfm, that the DZ was considered the carb Yenko was talking about.

Do you still have the original carb that you pulled off when you replaced it with the three barrel. If so, would you see what the numbers are on the choke horn in front.

Also, Some enthusiast are working on spreadsheets and collecting information on 68 Yenko Camaro's. Would you mind giving your trim tag information and possibly a photo of YS 8016 and the trim tag.

YS 8012, VIN 8N412417, was a Grotto Blue Yenko Demo. at Yenko in Canonsburg, PA. I believe that YS 8012 was the Grotto blue demonstrator that was for sale in Yenko ads of Dec. 15, 1968 and Dec.29, 1968.
YS 8012 is shown to exist in sYc registry!

Thanks,
Bryan

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Bryan........ Sad but true when I modified the yenko motor, 8016, I sold that carb for a few $$. the car was only a few months old, but the need for more speed was strong . Put the exhaust manifolds and smog parts. distrib, camshaft, and more in the trash. there was no market then for those parts. I am living now in the Dominican Republic, carribean, I have a box of car stuff back in Minnesota. Next time home I will bring it down here. yes I have many photos of 8016 when new, not sure if they show the trim tag...but I have a whole folder of photos of the restoration that do show it. If I remember right The man that did the restoration lived in ND, name Schmidt. I also have some paper work on the car when new, I offered it to a Mike Guarise, who was the owner then, but he declined?? that is How I found my old car,It was feature car dec, 2004...on this website Amazing that 4 or 5 of those original 6 kline yenkos have been found, a few with questionable colors ,Should be home in about 2 months with all the info...........thanks ys 8016

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Thanks 8016! That is great that you still have the photo's and original documents. I look forward to seeing some of these items. These such items are what we learn by, and to do the proper research on these cars is very difficult without someone like you that still has these items, and willing to share the history of these cars.

Thanks,
Bryan

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Great to see you back Bob and thank you for sharing your original owner info!
Thanks too Bryan for keeping track of these 68's also you're right on w/ your comments above.
Here's a Feb/69 Kline ad below w/ two '68 Yenkos left, when exactly did you take delivery of your car Bob?
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Here's more Kline Yenko ads from what looks like may be the beginning in Jun/67.
Not sure when the '68 cars landed...end of Aug '67 ad w/ 10 Yenkos in stock would be too early?
Bob's spot on w/ 6 x 68's there @ the end of '67 but looks like his car the only one sold 'till Nov?
5 x 68's @ Nov 3/68 but one gone by the 7'th, two more sold or dealer traded by Dec 23/68.
Understandable if they didn't order 69's from Yenko, anyone know if they delivered any non-Yenko '69 L72's?
Note the used '67 Yenko Mar/68 ad, last thing they probably wanted as a trade in then?
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Re: Photo of 68 Camaro's at Kenny Ross Chevrolet ?
 

Pete thanks for greeting, your kline ads bring back memories. I took delivery in march of 68, it was cold and snowing the night I bought 8016, the first photos I have of that car behind my apartment show the snow around it, march in minnesota is the end of winter. Your question about non yenko, l72 camaros, is no, kline only had yenko 427 camaros. I worked at kline, in sales, in the mid 1970s, and looked at the sales records of 1967, 1968, 1969.I copied the sales records of all the 68 camaros sold. In the ads you posted, you notice that the 68 yenkos did not sell well, in some of the ads in 68 kline has advertised both 67 and 68 yenkos together, without stating the year. As far as 68 yenkos go there were no dealer trades, where they traded yenkos. the six they started with was the 6 they sold. If you know how car dealerships work, when a yenko dealership received a car from yenko in PA they already had the shipping freight from the factory to yenko chev and then from yenko chev to the yenko dealer, so the cars were double freighted, if you then traded one of those yenkos to another dealer, you would have 3 freight charges, making the car almost impossible to sell... Jay Kline son, Steve Kline was the reason the dealership had the yenkos and all the other muscle cars. kline did well in 67 on the yenkos , not so in 68. And remember on Lake Street in MPLS there were 2 yenko dealers about 3 miles apart, kline and Grossman chevrolet....Anyway the part I want to tell you is kline 1968 yenkos were 2 colors ,3 rally green, 3 island teal , for 100% sure, this will not make a few people happy I am sure...........thanks ys 8016

Re: Photo of 68 Camaro's at Kenny Ross Chevrolet ?
 

Your last sentence must be referring to 8011 known as the Desert Rat and restored by Rick Nelson one of our members. I have a hard time believing he would be part of any kind of fraud.

https://www.mecum.com/lots/CH1013-16...-yenko-camaro/

Re: Photo of 68 Camaro's at Kenny Ross Chevrolet ?
 

Charley, Just thought it was about time I told some people, what they have been trying to find out for years, about the colors Yes I talked to rick nelson several times when he started the restoration, he even sent me photos of the car before he started, which I still have with his messages, I told him that kline chev had never had any dark blue 68 yenkos, or any without spoilers. why has that car not sold ? plenty of time. that car has no early history. I was not talking about 8011 in particular, in my last sentence, a few other cars are the wrong color. I think a few others on this site know the same thing..............thanks for listening...ys..8016

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Before anything goes too far offside, let's gather/examine all facts possible and maybe the pieces will fit and we'll all learn something new.
The '68 Kline cars on the list here indicate colors D(GB)#8005=D + E(FB)#8008 + J(RG) 8014 and -- for #8011 which is FB also has it's original MM tag.
#8010 &amp; #8016 have no colors noted but if list here is correct and #8016 RG, maybe #8010 was Island Teal/Color F?
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~ Pete

Re: Photo of 68 Camaro's at Kenny Ross Chevrolet ?
 

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Charley Lillard</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Your last sentence must be referring to 8011 known as the Desert Rat and restored by Rick Nelson one of our members. I have a hard time believing he would be part of any kind of fraud.
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Not sure what fraud I could commit. The car is a known Yenko car with a - - paint code and the Fathom Blue has been proven beyond any shadow of doubt that it came with that color and was WELL documented before any wrenches were turned. As far as coming from Kline I believe there is proof to that as well so where is the fraud Bob?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> I told him that kline chev had never had any dark blue 68 yenkos, or any without spoilers.</div></div>

As you should also note and have been told, the rear deck (original to the car) was found with several brazed holes in the decklid to mount a spoiler and this too was documented. We could find NO proof that a front spoiler was mounted so we did not put one back on. I also could not prove what was on the car for a rear spoiler, be it a Yenko spoiler or a GM spoiler so Dana opted to leave the spoiler off until such time it could be proved what came on the car including a chin spoiler or not. You also argued that no Yenko emblems were mounted the way they are on Dana's car which we also confirmed beyond a shadow of a doubt and has been proven on other cars. Lastly, we have a photo of what we believe to be this very car at Twin Cities Drag Way and you can see the Yenko emblem and where it was mounted in the photo.

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Thankyou for chiming in.

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nelson....I never mentioned your name and the word fraud,I believe that was someone else....I see you are still a believer in letting your mouth outrun your brain..anyway if you are so very sensitive about the car being authentic, why the add on sw guages under the dash, and the tach near the steering wheel???those cars had none, ohh yes someone did use the word authentic in conjuction with the afore mentioned 68 dark blue yenko, those 2 do not go together and never have. Please go back to your world of old car magazines, and other people memories of their youth and the new yenkos THEY OWNED . And yes you are right about one thing...I am very sure at one time there was a dark blue 68 camaro at minnesota dragways.........thanks for your time....ys 8016...

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Bob, is it possible that things like gauges an tach were added at point-of-sale? I know that Yenko cars sold from Yenko Chev in PA could pretty much get anything added, and if the person paid in cash then it wasn't added to the bill of sale.... Just a thought, as many of us have learned an awful lot about the 'impossibleness' of Yenko cars!

Re: Photo of 68 Camaro's at Kenny Ross Chevrolet ?
 

I am more interested in the fact that there is paperwork that lists only 3 IT and 3 RG being sold out of Kline (for 68).. Do you happen to still have the copies of the paperwork? Would you be so kind as to post it or email it to me so I can post it?

Re: Photo of 68 Camaro's at Kenny Ross Chevrolet ?
 

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 8016</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I took delivery in march of 68, it was cold and snowing the night I bought 8016, the first photos I have of that car behind my apartment show the snow around it, march in minnesota is the end of winter.</div></div>
A minor point, but that seems unlikely. The car was built at Norwood in April 68 and Yenko still had to convert it.

Do you still have the 68 files from Kline? Sounds interesting.

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Nice one Kurt....

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I would like to bring up a critical point to consider about the colors of the Kline cars. Two of these six cars are coded - - special paint. General Motors had a change of colors in January of 1968 with Tuxedo Black (A); Fathom Blue (E); Grecian Green (H) and Palomino Ivory (T) being discontinued and the addition of Rallye Green (J); Corvette Bronze (O); Lemans Blue (U); British Green (Z).

With this change in effect as of January, Fathom Blue was discontinued and the only way to get a discontinued color was with a - - special paint code. The main point is that Grotto Blue and especially Island Teal Blue COULD NOT have been the painted color of these two cars because these two colors were still in the line up and would have a (D) for Grotto Blue and an (F) for Island Teal Blue. The - - special paint could only be a discontinued color or another GM color.

As of the last registry recorded, YS 8010 is the only Kline car not known and recorded. YS 8010 is the only car that COULD have been (F) Island Teal Blue. It is also possible that YS 8010 was a - - special paint and yet another Fathom Blue. After all, 8010 would be grouped and very close with the other two!

Bryan

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I believe the - - special paint code can also be for a stripe change

at least one 1968 Yenko was ordered without the nose/side stripe

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You would be correct Joe.

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Reviewing all again after adding Kurt's note and reality to the mix, the cars @ Kline through the end of '67 and on into '68 must have been '67 Yenkos!
Thanks Kurt and I don't know how we all missed this but it fits w/ the '68 cars going through Yenko also should help explain a lot of this Kline car history too.
Is it possible Bob took delivery of 8016 in March '69 not '68 also it was one of the cars in the Feb '69 ad?
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I have been reading this thread and I have some information to add.

I purchased Kline Chevrolet Camaro YS 8005 back in the mid 80s and I spent about an hour this morning looking for my notes on the car. I sold the car shortly after, but this is how the car broke down when I had it.

PNT-DD

Trim-717

carb-4296 # 3955295

Build- 04B

Engine- CE 852599

Casting #- 3916321

Casting date- I-12-7

I do not know if any changes had been made to the car but these were the numbers and codes when I purchased it. I purchased it from the second owner and he stated that this is how he purchased it.

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Thanks for chiming in Craig also sharing your info!
Sounds like the car you had may be the one the obscured tag pic is from in the '68 list here at this link...
https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/ubbt...2582#Post72582

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~ Pete

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Thanks Pete, that would be the car.