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camarojoe 05-12-2018 03:05 AM

Where did the rest of the posts in this thread go?

Charley Lillard 05-12-2018 04:39 AM

I deleted the last few that were responses to the video I linked. The maker of the video was upset and asked them to be removed.

PLATINUM6BBL 05-12-2018 10:08 AM

What I heard in the video was the owner stating he was asked on 2 occasions if he wanted his car converted NOT that the car was scheduled for conversion and did he want it to be completed.

Mr70 05-12-2018 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Charley Lillard (Post 1400751)
I deleted the last few that were responses to the video I linked. The maker of the video was upset and asked them to be removed.

There are far worse & multiple comments in the youtube video you posted earlier & that he created,and yet he let those comments remain with over 34,000 views & 252 comments.Plus how can anyone call this the original paint job?


x33rs 05-12-2018 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr70 (Post 1400768)
There are far worse & multiple comments in the youtube video you posted earlier & that he created,and yet he let those comments remain with over 34,000 views & 252 comments.Plus how can anyone call this the original paint job?


I made comments in that video, however not bashing the car, but explaining what I see and how the unrestored claims are questionable. I actually received several "thank you" messages for my comments shortly afterwards. That's tells me it is appreciated by a few that actually want to know.
One of them explaining how I'm not convinced of original paint since the firewall and cowl area was not done correctly based off what I've seen from other original paint Norwood cars in that area, including my own.
The engine has also obviously been apart. At least the intake has been off because it has the wrong (BBC style capture washer) intake bolts on it. There are other details but I didn't want to elaborate more. It's a cool car, I'd love to see in person to confirm my suspicions. Doesn't make it any less of a car though, it's a great example of a Z. Just that owners sometimes tend to talk these cars up to more than they actually are.

big gear head 05-12-2018 02:14 PM

I've got a question about this car. It's a X77 car, but it has the gutter trim and wheel opening trim, and no chrome on the quarters. Can someone explain that to me?

JamesinHBCA 05-12-2018 02:17 PM

You guys are in the wrong thread. This is about the green Nova, not the orange Camaro.

Perhaps we need a new sub-forum called "Outrageous Claim or Legit Car?"

Mr70 05-12-2018 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by JamesinHBCA (Post 1400783)
You guys are in the wrong thread. This is about the green Nova, not the orange Camaro.

Because earlier CL posted the Vid here about the orange camaro from PGN,as he did the green nova too,is why.
Thus the discussion about it now.

Fast67VelleN2O 05-12-2018 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Charley Lillard (Post 1400751)
I deleted the last few that were responses to the video I linked. The maker of the video was upset and asked them to be removed.

What's with the censoring of comments on that obviously restored 1969 Camaro?

x33rs 05-12-2018 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by big gear head (Post 1400782)
I've got a question about this car. It's a X77 car, but it has the gutter trim and wheel opening trim, and no chrome on the quarters. Can someone explain that to me?

Someone added it.

69hurstSC 05-15-2018 02:08 PM

For those who didn't get to see it the first go-around.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qePcHJNpx9A

YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY 05-15-2018 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Charley Lillard (Post 1400751)
I deleted the last few that were responses to the video I linked. The maker of the video was upset and asked them to be removed.

This is total BS, just sayin....

Charley Lillard 05-15-2018 11:10 PM

What I deleted as I recall were just two useless comments. One was a scene from used cars and the other was a comment about Stevie Wonder. Nothing constructive. Do we want this to devolve into a name calling site ?

DW31S 05-16-2018 12:01 AM

As for the 314 mile Z/28, I guess I could believe the miles as a lot of these cars were raced and a few never saw street time. I’ve got a pretty rare X22 with 980 miles, but you’ll never (I can say NEVER here) hear me claim original paint....

cook_dw 05-16-2018 12:38 AM

Get used to it.. These "original" cars that were restored back in the 90's that will be coming out of hiding by these "experts" with a youtube channel, phone and internet access.. Read some of the comments under the video and see all the "knowledge" expressed..

This just solidifies for me, mine and a few others previous comments that this will continue and more than likely get worse.

YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY 05-16-2018 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Charley Lillard (Post 1401094)
What I deleted as I recall were just two useless comments. One was a scene from used cars and the other was a comment about Stevie Wonder. Nothing constructive. Do we want this to devolve into a name calling site ?

Nope!! As long people know they can come to this site for the truth, then we are good. Explaining what was deleted and why is a good thing, thank you. This car has an awfully steep hill to climb.....

Mr70 05-16-2018 02:06 PM

Why does PGN constantly call people haters & delete their comments,for cordially disagreeing that the Rally Green 1969 L-78 Nova is anything more than that?
Like people who believe the earth is flat,who call people who think it's round,haters.

Supergas990 05-16-2018 02:15 PM

I'm far from an expert on "supercars", but the interview with the original owner seems to tell us everything we need about the 1 of 38 and unconverted claim.

The car is in fact an L78, T400, SS Nova that was sold at Yenko. However it has no COPO or other special features or options that make it one of anything.

Even if it was scheduled to be converted, it wasn't! That settles that.

It's a cool car with a neat story that was sold at Yenko, but not a member of the rarified air that COPO and Yenko converted cars are associated with.

IMO - Blair

69hurstSC 05-16-2018 03:14 PM

I have no idea what he paid for the car, nor is it any of my business. My guess is he's attempting to hype the car up to justify his incorrect assessment and purchase point price. He incorrectly determined that this was one of the non-converted cars, because he thought that Don Yenko only sold 37 L78 equipped Novas in 1969. Hence he thought, "this is an L78 so it has to be one of the non-converted cars".

I've been told that Vince has noted this is not on the master 69 Yenko VIN list. That, and the cars an automatic, which none of the sYc Novas ever were.

At this point to save credibility, Patrick needs retract what he's said so far about the car. This along with some of his Chevelle and Camaro claims are all now highly suspect.

Steve Shauger 05-16-2018 04:06 PM

I think it speaks volumes that the owner/claim maker who is a member of this site has remained silent (still don't know his user name). There are plenty of members on this site with a wealth of information that they've researched /collected for 30 plus years willing to share to correct the misinformation in the videos only to have it deleted. To publish inaccurate information, and not correct the record when called out on it is inexcusable.

Fast67VelleN2O 05-16-2018 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Shauger (Post 1401206)
I think it speaks volumes that the owner/claim maker who is a member of this site has remained silent (still don't know his user name).

https://www.yenko.net/forum/member.php?u=51371

Mr70 05-16-2018 04:30 PM

He's been using Yenko.net as a reference source for awhile now.I've seen his followers ask him specific questions on FBook,only to reply back to them in copy & paste verbatim,of what was already written about that same subject by other members here on this site years ago.
Bad punctuation & all.

cook_dw 05-16-2018 04:50 PM

https://media.giphy.com/media/3oEjHL...smJ5F6/200.gif

cook_dw 05-16-2018 09:14 PM

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So what’s the story with this Chevelle?

YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY 05-16-2018 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Shauger (Post 1401206)
I think it speaks volumes that the owner/claim maker who is a member of this site has remained silent (still don't know his user name). There are plenty of members on this site with a wealth of information that they've researched /collected for 30 plus years willing to share to correct the misinformation in the videos only to have it deleted. To publish inaccurate information, and not correct the record when called out on it is inexcusable.

Further, if Patrick wouldn't have circled his wagons on this one, and instead asked some pertinent questions, he would have learned precisely what to look for in the documentation regarding a '69 Nova that was initially intended for a conversion - but wasn't. Like, an order form for a converted Nova (no VIN because it wasn't built yet, but the orig purchaser's name...) perhaps the notation where the original short block was to be credited against the purchase price... This isn't the first time we've heard this mantra!!

ban617 05-17-2018 04:10 AM

The Nova’s that we’re converted to a 427.... How many are around , the only one I can think of is Rally Green one that sold with a Yenko 69 Camaro

YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY 05-17-2018 02:18 PM

Of the 37, 8 are found. There is 1 later conversion, but that's another story...

Of the 8 found, 6 are believed to be 427 conversions

Of the 6 claimed to be converted
- 1 has good documentation (Yenko Bulletin, and vintage photo with 427 emblems)
- 2 have good photo documentation (original photos with 427 emblems and stripes, and original owner confirmation)
- 1 has decent heresay support, and emblem holes that matched up
- 2 have very little support to my knowledge

I think a lot of folks would be surprised to know how many cars were actually converted, there's more info out there than you think - for example, when someone sends you a copy of an original YENKO window stick for a Lemans Blue, 427 converted, 4 speed, 4.10 rear Nova sold new from Gates in Mishawauka....it's kind of a big deal!! Warren has nothing for this car, bummer :(

YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY 05-17-2018 02:24 PM

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Some photo's of the 3 with good support...

This red one has the Yenko Bulletin, which IMHO is good documentation. Both RG ones have solid photo and original / vintage owner confirmation.

Xplantdad 05-17-2018 02:56 PM

Great info Marlin!

PLATINUM6BBL 05-17-2018 04:24 PM

I have a friend who took a brown colored Yenko sYc 427 Nova for a test drive. He could have bought it for like $275 down and then $121 a month. Only thing stopping him was the letter he received in the mail - draft notice! Then it was off to Germany to serve his country. He also knew Don personally as Don has / had family in the Clarion area.

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Originally Posted by YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY (Post 1401326)
Of the 37, 8 are found. There is 1 later conversion, but that's another story...

Of the 8 found, 6 are believed to be 427 conversions

Of the 6 claimed to be converted
- 1 has good documentation (Yenko Bulletin, and vintage photo with 427 emblems)
- 2 have good photo documentation (original photos with 427 emblems and stripes, and original owner confirmation)
- 1 has decent heresay support, and emblem holes that matched up
- 2 have very little support to my knowledge

I think a lot of folks would be surprised to know how many cars were actually converted, there's more info out there than you think - for example, when someone sends you a copy of an original YENKO window stick for a Lemans Blue, 427 converted, 4 speed, 4.10 rear Nova sold new from Gates in Mishawauka....it's kind of a big deal!! Warren has nothing for this car, bummer :(


9566 BA 05-18-2018 11:36 AM

He has tainted the nova just like a member here tried to say his 68 nova was converted by a certain place and was discussed ad nauseam

YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY 05-18-2018 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by 9566 BA (Post 1401422)
He has tainted the nova just like a member here tried to say his 68 nova was converted by a certain place and was discussed ad nauseam

Very good correlation Jeff!

Here's a few more photos of the RG w/ V/T car, these guys clearly had their priorities in order - ultra fast/expensive car & small 'house'!! :)

YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY 05-18-2018 12:32 PM

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While I'm at it, additional pics of the other RG (non V/T) car...

Xplantdad 05-18-2018 08:24 PM

Wow~!!

PeteB 05-18-2018 10:10 PM

Super cool pics.

61 vert 05-19-2018 06:09 PM

So is that V/T car the VV Cooke car?

YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY 05-21-2018 04:03 PM

Yes, it was ordered through V. V. Cooke but the impatient buyer actually went to Yenko Chev to get it himself!!

Mr70 05-21-2018 05:21 PM

He pulled a Jack Douglas.. ;)

Caseys69 05-22-2018 05:26 PM

Anyone following this on facebook? This guy is really upset, pulled up screenshots from this site from 12 years ago.

69 Post Sedan 05-22-2018 05:39 PM

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Yeah.....


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