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PxTx 05-19-2018 03:52 PM

I'm interested to know what company will chrome the wheels without cutting them apart and the cost.

I recently sent some Keystone wheels to be cut up, had the offset changed, rechromes and put back together. Will post up pics and total cost when I have them back.

Bernhard 05-19-2018 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by whitetop (Post 1401542)
The other major probem with rechroming old Cragars is finding the right color chrome. Due to EPA the old Cragar white hexavelant chrome is getting hard to find..

Most of the chrome today has a blue or brown cast and the wheels come out looking horrible.

Its not ideal from a purest point of view, but I don't think it looks horrible its just different.
Back in the 80's the blue or brown tint chrome was a sign of quality "show chrome".

Bernhard 05-19-2018 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PxTx (Post 1401554)
I'm interested to know what company will chrome the wheels without cutting them apart and the cost.

I recently sent some Keystone wheels to be cut up, had the offset changed, rechromes and put back together. Will post up pics and total cost when I have them back.

This is the shop one of the members used to have a set done.
I personally think the wheels turned out very nice and would be happy with this level of restoration.
http://www.atlaschrome.com/

You will have to call for pricing 15 X 4 with out pits and no cap $325 US each "NO Guarantee"

1967 4K 05-19-2018 07:00 PM

I used Atlas in Houston TX. Three years ago the price was 250.00each. They did a good job and the turn around was a reasonable time. There’s no guarantee and one of them had a small flake up area where the spoke met the rim start about a year later. They replated that wheel at a reduced price of 150.00.
Like I said earlier it’s not cheap if you want a set of old school Cragars.
Richard

1967 4K 05-19-2018 07:19 PM

Cragar stuff
 
Bernhard what kind of “stuff” do you plan on putting in the gap between the spoke and rim. I haven’t done that yet and was thinking clear Lacquer. What you think?

Bernhard 05-19-2018 10:18 PM

Hi Richard
The price has gone up since you had your rims re-chromed.
I was going to look into a clear sealer that they use on gas fittings in labs.
I also thought about using a clear coat that is water resistant.
I don't know how water resistant clear lacquer is, when I was in trade school I was told that lacqure absorbed water.

1967 4K 05-19-2018 11:00 PM

Non R caps
 
Good non R caps are getting hard to come by also. I got a set of four NOS non R’s from a local guy recently.

Bernhard 05-20-2018 02:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1967 4K (Post 1401576)
Good non R caps are getting hard to come by also. I got a set of four NOS non R’s from a local guy recently.

Nice
I picked up some very nice originals off of ebay.

Bernhard 05-20-2018 02:58 AM

The product I was thinking about using is similar to this sealer.
http://www.sashco.com/products/lexel/

http://multimedia.3m.com/mws/media/6...ealant-230.pdf

https://conspecmaterials.com/shop/se...clear-sealant/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yCVpNT2eMI

I would test any product before using it to seal my rims.

Starship 05-27-2018 04:06 PM

5 Attachment(s)
For your viewing pleasure. I separated this set in preparation for re-chroming. It looked as if they were re-chromed in one piece at one time with bad results.

Bernhard 05-27-2018 10:52 PM

Thanks for posting.

How was the center section removed?
How do you ensure the wheel is true before re-welding?
Metal is lost from the mounting tab's when it is cut free from the rim.
I also assume more mounting tab metal is lost during weld area prep for re-welding, (the removal of chrome plating from the tabs and rim to allow re-welding).
How do you compensate for loss in mounting tab material?

The above questions are not intended to be negative. They are to clarify the process and what is required to preform this level of wheel restoration.

Thanks
Bernhard

scuncio 05-27-2018 11:35 PM

If you're very judicious when you remove the weld I don't see an issue (FYI I am a degreed materials engineer). Obviously the quality of the weld is important, and I would be building a fixture to ensure the lug plane and rim edge were as parallel as possible.

Bernhard 05-28-2018 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by scuncio (Post 1402453)
If you're very judicious when you remove the weld I don't see an issue (FYI I am a degreed materials engineer). Obviously the quality of the weld is important, and I would be building a fixture to ensure the lug plane and rim edge were as parallel as possible.

I have seen some cut the wheels apart on the lathe. What would you consider a good method to use to separate the rim from the center section?
What about using a cutoff wheel with a light touch?

whitetop 05-29-2018 02:46 PM

I had a professional wheel shop do mine. They cut the wheel apart by using a lathe then built up metal back via tig welding onto the remaining steel tab what was lost in the lathe process and then lathed that down to a factory tab would have looked before welding back together.

They used a jig the center the wheel to make usre it was round and also no side play etc.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bernhard (Post 1402448)
Thanks for posting.

How was the center section removed?
How do you ensure the wheel is true before re-welding?
Metal is lost from the mounting tab's when it is cut free from the rim.
I also assume more mounting tab metal is lost during weld area prep for re-welding, (the removal of chrome plating from the tabs and rim to allow re-welding).
How do you compensate for loss in mounting tab material?

The above questions are not intended to be negative. They are to clarify the process and what is required to preform this level of wheel restoration.

Thanks
Bernhard


Bernhard 05-30-2018 02:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whitetop (Post 1402619)
I had a professional wheel shop do mine. They cut the wheel apart by using a lathe then built up metal back via tig welding onto the remaining steel tab what was lost in the lathe process and then lathed that down to a factory tab would have looked before welding back together.

They used a jig the center the wheel to make usre it was round and also no side play etc.

Is the shop still doing Cragar rims?
Cost?


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