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Stuart Adams 11-17-2005 03:45 PM

Re: Driveability of high compression cars
 
Hope there is no quiz. LOL.

Baldy 11-17-2005 06:12 PM

Re: Driveability of high compression cars
 
I buy the highest octain pump gas and mix it with Av. gas 50/50 mix. This works well on my 427 C.I.

68l30 11-17-2005 08:26 PM

Re: Driveability of high compression cars
 
I run my 327 on 94 Sunoco....It has a .003 deck (cut pistons & squared the deck front to rear and side to side ) with a true 10.5 to 1 compression.No problems.....My guess is without a true blueprint most 11 to 1 motors are hardly that.I would have been lucky to get 9 to 1 on mine. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/scholar.gif

Steve https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

Mr70 11-18-2005 03:11 AM

Re: Driveability of high compression cars
 
I run the Jack Podell Lead/Octane additive in my soft valve seated L-78 Chevelle for years now.Just 12 oz. to every 10 gallons of 93 seems to agree with it.
She does run hotter though.

Xplantdad 11-18-2005 03:13 AM

Re: Driveability of high compression cars
 
Rick...just pump some fuel out of your Sunoco Gas pump! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

@wot 11-18-2005 03:48 AM

Re: Driveability of high compression cars
 
just curious how some of these l78 and l72 cars are tuned. i have 36 degrees of total mechanical advance in by 2750 rpm, no vacuum advance. i nee to mix race fuel to control detonation.

musclcar 11-18-2005 12:33 PM

Re: Driveability of high compression cars
 
my camaro has an 11.5:1 350sbc and i run a mix of either VP MS103 or VP C12 with 91 octane pump gas.i can get all the race gas i need thru our race team and the price is right "FREE".ahh the smell of race gas coming from the exhaust of a healthy sounding street car https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/burnout.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ins/3gears.gif

juliosz 11-18-2005 04:30 PM

Re: Driveability of high compression cars
 
I went through the engine on my 68 Z a couple of years ago. I went with all stock components except for roller tip rockers on my 302. I typically run about 10 gallons of 93 octane to 5 gallons of 110. Many times however, I run straight 93 with no detonation (total timing set to 36 degrees and running R45s). At first, I couldn't believe I could do this but then I read this article in Chevy Hi-Perf and it makes perfect sense to me. So those of you running hi compression + long duration cam may want to take this into consideration.

68l30 11-18-2005 05:33 PM

Re: Driveability of high compression cars
 
Correct.....I run a high duration cam as well.If I remember correctly it's about 238 or 302 total duration.A lot of cam but very streetable with a 3800 converter and 4.10 rear.It runs very happy in the top end, 6500 +.....I get a little nervous up there though.....https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/burnout.gif


Steve https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

70CitrusZ 11-20-2005 11:19 PM

Re: Driveability of high compression cars
 
My 70 LT-1 is built with pistons designed to produce 11 to 1 with 64 cc chambers.
Stock solid cam set at .024 and .026 lash
My decks were cut to clean up to parallel, about 7 thou.
I used head gaskets with a .039 compressed thickness.
Before I assembled heads, they were cylinder matched and laid back,and smoothed to eliminate hot spots. After that the chambers measured 61 to 61.5 cc.
I had hardened exhaust seats installed.
So far I have had no problem running 93 octane pump fuel.
Originally I fired it on 100 octane av gas, but found it ran cooler and still without detonation on unleaded 93.
Mark.

SMGCO 11-21-2005 04:08 AM

Re: Driveability of high compression cars
 
With the correct cam you can bleed off enough cylinder pressure to help with some low rpm detonation. Also, thermal barrier coating can help ( ie, keep the charge cool ).

Salvatore 11-23-2005 12:08 AM

Re: Driveability of high compression cars
 
Just wanted to thank Sean (sean70SS) for some fuel and tune-up tips for my 302. Thanks! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ins/3gears.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

Jim Ferron 11-23-2005 03:03 AM

Re: Driveability of high compression cars
 
In the old days I ALWAYS ran a rough mix of 60/40 Unleaded pump/AV gas...Maybe a straight 12 gallons of AV gas Sat night...off to the drags Sun morn...[12:1 comp] Always ran purrrfect! Last time I ran AV gas was two summers ago ..same mix [11:1 compression] very good!

But now I'm too lazy..the truck drops off the drum of VP 4:1 [pump/av]in the L-78 1:2[pump/av] in the L-88[ or straight if it's off to the drags...

The 496'' in the grocery getter is 2005 gas station friendly:)

Salvatore 11-23-2005 03:13 AM

Re: Driveability of high compression cars
 
I have been lazy! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif

Dave Rifkin 11-23-2005 03:55 AM

Re: Driveability of high compression cars
 
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I have been lazy! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif

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Where do you guys store these drums of VP fuel? Is it safe to keep it around your house? I have a feeling the wife would object to my keeping this stuff anywhere near our home. Is it even legal to maintain this amount of race fuel in a residential area? Just curious since it seems to be a common thing to do with you guys who own high compression cars.

@wot 11-23-2005 04:28 AM

Re: Driveability of high compression cars
 
I store mine right in the garage. Three gallons of lawnmower fuel will just as easily burn down the house. With a little common sense, its safe to keep a drum in the garage.

ss427copo 11-23-2005 05:16 AM

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The 427 Camaro has always (since 84) run on straight AV fuel with a lead additive. At 12.5 to 1 with open chamber heads, it runs great with temps in the 170-195 range. It does "barf" throught to overflow though in the heat of summer(???) The 427 Impala has just been put on a 50/50 diet the same way. At 10 to 1 with oval heads, I don't think I'll have any problems. Have a Good Thanksgiving!

Jeff https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ins/3gears.gifx2

DarrenX33 11-23-2005 05:57 AM

Re: Driveability of high compression cars
 
Jeff isn't that picture supposed to have a big crease down the middle? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif

ss427copo 11-24-2005 01:33 AM

Darren, post this one for the Board!
 
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"It was a cool, autumnal day in Chicago when "New Jersey met Illinois!"
Yo Darren, where was your moustache? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/confused.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/confused.gif

Jeff https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ins/3gears.gifx2

DarrenX33 11-24-2005 01:48 AM

Re: Darren, post this one for the Board!
 
It fell down to my chin. Good meeting you Jeff. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif


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