Re: 1969 Yenko Nova
 

I noticed on the other site. They still don't have clue as always. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...emlins/eek.gif

Re: 1969 Yenko Nova
 

The train is coming!!!!!!!!!!!! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif

Re: 1969 Yenko Nova
 

Howie...your message box is full.......

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Thats what I would like to do. But warren sold the papers to a previous owner and there for can not give me copy's. If YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY would like to call Warren then it can be resolved.

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If you say it's Yenko Chev. vs. Yenko SC then I'll believe it, I recall it was Yenko SC - but I could be thinking of a different car's paperwork, since I don't have a copy in front of me.

Re: 1969 Yenko Nova
 

I read the post from Greg Carlson on the rabbit site about me & Mick Price. Well Greg you keep wanting the Truth. Well here it comes!!! This is what I know. Mick Price bought the car and talked to Vinnce E. he was told it may not be a 427 car because the price, it was sold for less that the other ones. Mick sold the car unrestored to Gary Dyer explaining to Gary what Vinnce told him. Bill Dyer Gary's son called Vinnce & they talked about the car. Bill thought the car could have discounted because of it one of the last 7 sold. Vinnce didn't agree. Gary decided to sell it because there no way to prove it was a 427. He sold it to guy in Iowa. HINT. att. is picture. The third guy from the left is the buyer. The car is retored as a 427 Yenko Nova by him. It was shown at the Nova Nats' in Cedar Rapids,Ia. Was there any paper work with the car at that time I don't know??? But I looked at the car there and there was a cert. stating it was in fact a yenko 427 Nova. The cert. came from the guy to the left of the owner in the att. picture. Greg you stated that the SWC was involved in this. Huh!!! Doesn't look like it to me!!!!! He who lives in a glass house shouldn't throw rocks. Kim Howie https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...emlins/eek.gif

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So does anyone know how many of the 67, 68 Camaros and 69 Novas were not converted to 427 cars? Are there any good guesstimates like 10%, 25%? Also, shouldn't some of the cars be removed from the lists as the history on them is uncovered and shows they were purchased as 396 cars like this Nova and the Firemist Nova? Or they should be footnoted at least to show no conversion was done. Do the 67 Camaro lists show which 427 was installed because I thought Don offered several 427's which were different(410hp vs 425hp)?

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Greg you stated that the SWC was involved in this

[/ QUOTE ] Kim...this guy is like Sybil....no one at all listens to him. He was the guy who used to own a LS6 pilot car right ? And the same shmoe who wanted to start an LS6 club but everyone laughed at him ? this just shows how believable he really is with the facts he provides...as usual..none..If you click on the "F" in my signature it shows a pic of him...looks like the usual characters involved once again...

Re: 1969 Yenko Nova
 

Same guys different car. What a suprise. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bs.gif

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I'd like to know where the group at the "other" web site come down on this sort of collector car creativity? I notice that group is eager to be critical of anything/anyone sYc, but get amnesia when it comes to cars that are owned, restored or brokered via their own core group. This is one example of what I see as the real problem in this hobby. Some, on the other forum site, claim all the problem cars come from the sYc group, yet this Deuce was restored, certified and sold by one guy in the picture and is now owned by another guy in the same picture. 6-7 years ago, the same two guys had a hand in the red '69 Nova...one owned it and had it restored as a 427 Yenko Nova and the other guy certified it as a 427 Yenko conversion. The hobby seems to tolerate things like stripe color change, adding TT mag wheels, under dash gauges, circa incorrect tires, custom exhaust systems and headers, smog systems gone missing and other added do-dads that the factory/conversion shop order sheet didn't call out...so why is it so wrong for an owner to add/change the carburetor or slightly different paint color hue? It's a rhetorical question...we all know it's the hate-game that causes the personal bashing and gang attacks on anything sYc. Some claim the sYc is at the root of the problem and/or the only problem. With nearly 4,000 registered members and over 500 supporting members, I'd say the sYc is indeed the PREMIER supercar web site. Generally, the people that disagree have a personal bone to pick with one or more of the core group here. Unfortunately, the pictures below depict what I perceive to be the worst of the worst at deception with intent to defraud. Efforts to stop/expose this sort of foul play is time well spent, IMO, but you be the judge. We're accused of having a "flock" mentality here and being nothing more than Clary clan followers that are afraid/reluctant to speak up...how does that theory apply regarding this situation and the core group from the "other" forum site? https://www.yenko.net/attachments/235623-untitled.jpg

Re: 1969 Yenko Nova
 

. https://www.yenko.net/attachments/235624-silver1.jpg

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.. https://www.yenko.net/attachments/235625-silver2.jpg

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... https://www.yenko.net/attachments/235626-silver3.jpg

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.... https://www.yenko.net/attachments/235627-silver4.jpg

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..... https://www.yenko.net/attachments/235629-silver5.jpg

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...... https://www.yenko.net/attachments/235630-silver6.jpg

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....... https://www.yenko.net/attachments/235631-silver7.jpg

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........ https://www.yenko.net/attachments/235632-silver8.jpg

Re: 1969 Yenko Nova
 

the above pics are NOT of the red 69 Nova discussed in this thread. I posted here in response to the flaming discussion posts on the "other" forum board about several different cars owned/restored by sYc members.

THE ABOVE PICS ARE NOT OF THE RED '69 NOVA BEING DISCUSSED IN THIS THREAD

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the above pics are NOT of the red 69 Nova discussed in this thread. I posted here in response to the flaming discussion posts on the "other" forum board about several different cars owned/restored by sYc members.

THE ABOVE PICS ARE NOT OF THE RED '69 NOVA BEING DISCUSSED IN THIS THREAD

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Judging by the tags, it is a '70 Nova.

Re: 1969 Yenko Nova
 

I am not an expert on this stuff by any means...but what you just pictured looks like someone welded in a metal piece with the vin stamped on it so that the car in question would be "vin matching" (Hidden and windshield locations)?

That just totally sucks...if that's what I think it is... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...thumbsdown.gif

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I am not an expert on this stuff by any means...but what you just pictured looks like someone welded in a metal piece with the vin stamped on it so that the car in question would be "vin matching" (Hidden and windshield locations)?

That just totally sucks...if that's what I think it is... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...thumbsdown.gif

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Yes, that is what was done..and does suck.

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Judging by the tags, it is a '70 Nova. I am guessing a Yenko Deuce.

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According to the list posted on this site, it's the number for a '70 Cortez Silver Yenko Deuce.

There is supposed to be a VIN stamp by the heater fan opening too.

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<font color="red">I am not an expert on this stuff by any means...but what you just pictured looks like someone welded in a metal piece with the vin stamped on it so that the car in question would be "vin matching" (Hidden and windshield locations)?

That just totally sucks...if that's what I think it is...

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Is that even legal?

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I am not an expert on this stuff by any means...but what you just pictured looks like someone welded in a metal piece with the vin stamped on it so that the car in question would be "vin matching" (Hidden and windshield locations)?

That just totally sucks...if that's what I think it is... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...thumbsdown.gif

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Yes, that is what was done..and does suck.

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Talk about Glass Houses.......

Also notice that you cannot see a members profiles over there. And the SYC is accused of hiding stuff???? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif

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Could someone please put names to the faces in the picture for me. A pm or email will work if that is preferable. It's hard to follow for those on the outside.

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Could someone please put names to the faces in the picture for me. A pm or email will work if that is preferable. It's hard to follow for those on the outside.

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Looking at the picture, from left to right.
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Valerie Harrell, Cliff Ernst, Ed Cunneen, Gary Holub, Dave Belk and Tim Lopata.

Re: 1969 Yenko Nova
 

If I'm following this correctly, this is nuts.. so Gary H bought it knowing it prob wasn't and Ed C certifies it !!!?? Early in this thread someone stated "the car has no issues" did you mean you knew it never was a 427 SYC ?
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Re: 1969 Yenko Nova
 

Perry I stated that. As of a week ago that's what I thought. I still think that. I was tolded years ago it may or may not be a 427 it could have been a 396. I didn't care, I had no dog in the fight and still don't. I hope this answers your question. But some Questions need answers. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/flag.gif

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Hey Kim.. thanks, I certainly agree... I have no dog in this fight but this kind of reminds me of the famous supercar man from where I grew up and the games/stories there. Shame if this turns out to be a 396 car all along not that I would'nt still say https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...-I-Have-It.gif

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If I'm following this correctly, this is nuts.. so Gary H bought it knowing it prob wasn't and Ed C certifies it !!!?? Early in this thread someone stated "the car has no issues" did you mean you knew it never was a 427 SYC ?
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Perry...If I'm reading this right (and if I'm not, I'm sorry and the mods can please delete this post)...the last pictures posted are of a silver deuce that was "modified" to make it numbers matching. Some of the people identified in the D.H picture above were (and are) aware of what happened. No one said anything about it until they were "caught". Now they are trying to distance themselves from the perpetrators.

It would be wonderful if this hobby didn't have all the negativity and BS that seems to constantly happen.

I think that all of this stinks...but I'm glad that my priorities are in the right place (Family, faith, friends, then job and finally cars). I WILL NOT continue to post on the negativity and constant crap that is always brought up.

I am happy that I've made wonderful friends since getting back into this hobby...and that is my main focus. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

I have no knowledge of what transpired with the red Yenko Nova...so I can't say anything about it.

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Bruce I have tried to positive on everything but after the bashing I took and still taking. I started to fight back. They bashed mine then TOM's funny car then Tommy K. Car now the red Nova enough is enough!!! As they are finding out it works both ways.

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Kim, They have nothing better to do...it's that simple. Let them do it...and ignore it.

There are more important things in life to worry about...and they can't argue that point! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

Re: 1969 Yenko Nova
 

So then, the car is one that simply came from Yenko Chevrolet as a 396 and is now turned into a rare SYC one, correct? Thus, the car is bogus, with certain people knowing that, correct?

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So then, the car is one that simply came from Yenko Chevrolet as a 396 and is now turned into a rare SYC one, correct? Thus, the car is bogus, with certain people knowing that, correct?

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I think what happened was it was restored and papered and then sold a few times as a 427 car with all the new owners duped into thinking they had a 427 Nova. That being said if it turns out to be a 396 car I believe the current owner will take the steps to correct the car and still show it as it is a #1 car just the same. 427 or 396 the current owner has nothing to hide and should not be worried about showing it.

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Has anybody besides myself ever made an issue of the current #27 69 ZL-1 (ex Reggie Jackson) being a totaling fabricated/cloned Camaro with NOT ONE part except the VIN TAG having ever been part of the Original #27 (ex Chuck S and Alan Green/Dick Tutino).........and Ed Cunnen certified this !!!!!

Re: 1969 Yenko Nova
 

Chuck, It has been mentioned before but since it was your old car and you have all the info some here would like to hear more on it. If I understand you right theres a rebodied ZL1 out there someplace?? Anyone know the current owner and wonder if they even know its a rebodied car.

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Chuck..Most of us know the rebody story on # 27 and that you used to own it. I think what Ed certified was the vin being ZL1 # 27. You might not like the fine print but I think that is what his certificate says. The red Yenko Nova is a little different because he is certifying it as a 427 Nova according to his records but new info from the Nephew that it was sold new as a 396 car.

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On the Nova, shouldn't the restorer have known? And what records did Cuneen have to base his certification on? Were they legitimate, or false?

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