[QUOTE=Pro Stock John;1646629]Black69, that is not IV that is another old race car that's a '67 that some folks built into a replica of IV, all the while insisting it's IV.

ProStockJohn, I know its not the real car from all the evidence, all I did was refresh myself on what the copy is vs the real one. I had a person that pointed me to that article indirectly by referencing the guy they knew that made rollbars, and it was interesting to see what made them think, amoung other things, it was the real deal, before waiting for more facts to come in back then in 2015. The thought of the grumpy's toy text on that rear window sill is beyond insanity. I actually laughed at that stretch belief on that item. Its obviously some other car.

There is so much slam dunk evidence here on this thread that should put every thing to rest on that particular car not being anything but a poor copy.

So an update, a few of us networked around NC to see if any of the names provided during the search had owned, seen or were aware of IV being near or at Camp LeJeune in the 90s. We got a hold of two of them, they said had not owned it. The third person I don't think we've gotten a hold of that person but I'll check with my local buddy in NC.

More than likely we need to go back to Ron who said he was present with some guys and personally saw the car.

Jim and Jake Trost from West Chester Pa had a body shop and painted some of the Penske race cars and Jenkins cars and others.

They bought a spare 67/68 body from Penske after Penske switched to the 69 Camaros.

Jim and Jake ran this Camaro in M/P then switched to a SRD Vega.

Interesting vinyl top on a '68 car.... assuming it was added, for some reason ?

Hmmm so maybe this is why some folks think the car out in PA was built by Trosts.

I was reading on FB this morning that the owners of the Pittsburgh car are trying to copyright the name Grumpy's toy and Jenkins Competition and have intentions of hitting anyone using the names on tribute cars with a lawsuit.

Link for us with FB?

Seems frivolous and hardly enforceable, but maybe civil suits of this nature are more likely to succeed in the US compared to here in Aus???

https://www.facebook.com/share/r/f3K...ibextid=oFDknk

Its about 20 comments from the top.

I'd assume Grumpy's estate already has things like that in place and a court would handily dismiss any outside claims.

Besides, even if those guys still go on about that tribute car, the community knows better.

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I’m only getting a quick video clip of the clone using Bracketracer’s Link, no comments/text?
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