Re: '69 X77 302DZ Camaro Barn Find
 

The very high cost ( ie, money, time, aggrivation, etc ) of restoration always needs to be considered. Very easy to get upside down .

Re: '69 X77 302DZ Camaro Barn Find
 

If the car is for yourself, getting upside down is not the end of the world. Many people (myself included) can't afford a completely done, well restored 69 Z. Hopefully, when it is done, you know the car is done right because you weren't forced to cut corners. (Or purchasing someone else's slap together for resale project) Basicly, you are making payments to yourself. In the end it costs more, but you are able to have something that you may otherwise not be able to have.

I'm not saying that this is the case in this situation, just that may people do buy project cars for this reason.

Re: '69 X77 302DZ Camaro Barn Find
 

In this day and age of fraud, faked build sheets and restamped blocks, I'd sooner buy a car in project form where you can see more evidence of the cars pedigree in undisturbed form, even if it means sinking a little more money into it to restore of have it restored. This way you can be a part of the restoration, and you know what you have. Plus it sounds like you got a heck of a deal on this one, so congrats.

Re: '69 X77 302DZ Camaro Barn Find
 

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Re: '69 X77 302DZ Camaro Barn Find
 

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"Barn Find" is probably the most inaccurately-used term going these days. Maybe the term should be "barnyard find" (aka: Steamy gold) for cars that have no chance of a quick and low-effort resurrection.

My definition of "barn find" is when you pull back the cover, change the fluids, brake calipers, water pump/radiator, and are motoring in a few weekends... ...instead of dragging some derelict mess home. Granted, it is what it is, but hype cools off, and then what are you left with?

In the current market, at anything north of $15K, you're going to be upside-down in grand fashion. Any car of this ilk (99K miles and stored poorly) means that it was ridden hard and put away wet when it either became too ugly to drive, or broke something, meaning that you'll have to go through EVERYTHING and have a $50K car in today's market.

A restoration done yourself you'd be upside-down on just on your money, and not including your time. A restoration you pay for-- Forget it. A 'nice' paint job is $10K these days. And that's just paint. Not to mention that you wouldn't be driving that thing until 2011 at the soonest....

Sounds like a recipe for disaster...

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I don't know if this has any connection but this quote reminded me of this girl my buddies referred to as Barnyard Betty.......she was not a good barn find.

Re: '69 X77 302DZ Camaro Barn Find
 

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I don't know if this has any connection but this quote reminded me of this girl my buddies referred to as Barnyard Betty.......she was not a good barn find.

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Was her positive side up against the fender? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif

Re: '69 X77 302DZ Camaro Barn Find
 

LOL; this is what I'm talking about:

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Don't use "Barn Find", and instead it's barnyard find... Total mess.

Though, I should edit my original statement regarding the difference between barn find and barnyard find to include "clean it up to a respectable and patina'ed level" in addition to enjoyable mechanical refreshment.

You can't polish a turd.

Re: '69 X77 302DZ Camaro Barn Find
 

I can't beleive that many people bid on that POS.

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[/ QUOTE ]I don't know if this has any connection but this quote reminded me of this girl my buddies referred to as Barnyard Betty.......she was not a good barn find.

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Re: '69 X77 302DZ Camaro Barn Find
 

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"Barn Find" is probably the most inaccurately-used term going these days. Maybe the term should be "barnyard find" (aka: Steamy gold) for cars that have no chance of a quick and low-effort resurrection.

My definition of "barn find" is when you pull back the cover, change the fluids, brake calipers, water pump/radiator, and are motoring in a few weekends... ...instead of dragging some derelict mess home. Granted, it is what it is, but hype cools off, and then what are you left with?

In the current market, at anything north of $15K, you're going to be upside-down in grand fashion. Any car of this ilk (99K miles and stored poorly) means that it was ridden hard and put away wet when it either became too ugly to drive, or broke something, meaning that you'll have to go through EVERYTHING and have a $50K car in today's market.

A restoration done yourself you'd be upside-down on just on your money, and not including your time. A restoration you pay for-- Forget it. A 'nice' paint job is $10K these days. And that's just paint. Not to mention that you wouldn't be driving that thing until 2011 at the soonest....

Sounds like a recipe for disaster...

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Thanks for the clarification on this. BUT, this car is a "Barn Find" and with a little TLC, could be on the road in a couple months. AS far as the retoration goes, I'm a pretty resourceful guy with lots of resourcefull friends. Materials would be my only financial cost (not much needed either), labour would be crafted with love from a group of guys with a passion for American Muscle. (If this is what I do with this car). The only drawback would be time to do it. I'm not in a hurry and have no intentions of cutting corners. But it could also be an investment opportunity as well. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/wink.gif Who knows, I just might flip it. Haven't decided yet.