Re: Jim Kirby's 1968 Harrell Funny Car for Sale!
 

In the Ford venues recently there is new speculation someone else originally had the idea for the Cobra or it was already done by a "noname" but Shelby had the name, backing and resources to actually do the project. I believe this is the approach Factory Five Racing was trying to use to win their court case. As it may be however, history, as they say, is always written by the winners not the losers.

Re: Jim Kirby's 1968 Harrell Funny Car for Sale!
 

How many Harrell race cars are currently accounted for ?

Re: Jim Kirby's 1968 Harrell Funny Car for Sale!
 

Harrell owned/raced, Harrell raced, or Harrell sponsered?

Re: Jim Kirby's 1968 Harrell Funny Car for Sale!
 

All of the above...they could all have had the name on it at one time.

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Harrell owned/raced-3 ('67 altered,'68 & '69 funnycars), Harrell raced-2 ('69 & '70 ZL-1s), sponsered-1 (Kirby FC). Of course Valerie may know of others.

Re: Jim Kirby's 1968 Harrell Funny Car for Sale!
 

Dave Libby has a post on the Harrell website about this car. It was originally painted a Plum color and wore the Courtesy chevrolet logo. Jim Kirby was the official owner but it was not only raced by Jim, but also by Dick Harrell and Charlie Therewanger. When Jim and Dick parted ways the car was returned to Jim and the next Chevrolet dealer to sponser the car was Bomeler from St Louis. While Dick was a sponser for the car during all that time he also raced it.
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Re: Jim Kirby's 1968 Harrell Funny Car for Sale!
 

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When someone "restores" one of these cars, how do they determine what point in history they restore it to?

[/ QUOTE ] Wherever they want to I would assume. And that would usually be the most famous point.i.e. record holder etc.Take an old Willys gasser...a couple different owners in its racing past but it was a record holder....of course if you put it back you would go with the proper lettering etc. for it's glory day in the spotlight.JMO but it sure seems like something simple to work out with the family to get that name back on a car.Especially if Mr. Harrell himself raced the darn thing.Would it become instantly much more valuable with the name on it ? Not to me.I would guess the market is extremely small on a car like this.Is someone going to earn huge dollars off of a few exibition passes of a historic dinosaur...I doubt it.Its going to take a bunch of dollars to get it safe.Its real value is in people seeing it and seeing how cool it was back then in the infancy of these mega buck sponsored funny cars that don't even look like cars anymore..And also how crazy these guys were to even get in one of those things !

Re: Jim Kirby's 1968 Harrell Funny Car for Sale!
 

I have yet to hear from a Legal standpoint about this. My thinking is that the Harrell family would have a hard time preventing a historic car to not use the name if they were not using it to make money. The only way they could have a standing is if someone started to make a NEW 2004 Camaro with his name on it. If someone bought a car with the name on the side in the past and they have the pic to prove it then they have the right to advertize it as a Ex-DH car. I am not a lawyer but look at Shelby and you can see that he is in the same boat. He can demand that anyone offering a NEW vehicle with his name on it pay but not on one that was sold with his name on it back then. Personally I think they woudl be crazy to even try to restrict any of the old cars as the more of them out there would enhance the value of any new endeavor that might come along that they could cash in on.
Now if someone was making a Clone and using his name then they should put a stop to that.

I know that it would just make me very happy to have someone even remember my Daddy and to have as much interest in him like DH would be something else. I would only want to protect his name from being abused and I think that is more what they are trying to do.

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I have just looked on this site after being away from it for a while.
To Motown Madman, 396L35 and others who don't know jack about things you speak so knowledgeable of.
Valerie DID not ask the owner of the Kirby car or any others for money to use the DH name. If you boneheads had any balls at all you would have asked Valerie her side of the story. Read the eBay ad a few times. THE WHOLE AD. It says, ìOriginal Dick Harrell #3 car.î Under Vehicle condition it says ìAn all original DICK HARRELL 68 Funny Carî. It is not, was not and would never be a DH original car. It also says "own a piece of history"; racing history comes from wins and famous owners. The DH name is a good piece of Jim Kirby history. What major event did this car ever win? It was painted Harrell colors so he could fill in for Dick. The name Jim Kirby was not one everyone went to pay and see. As for Dick switching to a Hemi and Kirby not wanting to. I raced against Dick and Clyde Morgan who was replacing Kirby in late summer of 70.
Both cars still had a Chevrolet in them.
Valerie asked Kevin who had the eBay auction for NOTHING other than to advertise the truth.
Porterfield was a personality situation. Late 80s, he was denied the approval of Elaine and Valerie both, to use Dickís name and signature. He has since used and abused it.
Think about it, T-shirts, mugs, hats and any other thing he could profit from, including appearance money. Now that diecast cars and other things are out he wanted in on that also. Seems Valerie hasnít asked Tom Clary to take the name off his car. Tom has been a true gentleman to the Harrell family, unlike others. GO FIGURE! This also brings up another issue. Tomís car indeed is a REAL Dick Harrell car and the other does detract from the value of there being more than just a few originals. I have the Emails from Valerie and Kevin in front of me. Kevin understood and writes that he should have written it differently. Please make no mistake Kevins car is a good find and a nice one.Just not a Harrell car as advertised
This sounds like the same group that so called heard Nancy Gibb talk about another car, when in fact this same group had that wrong as well. Yep, it was Candy red and thatís all you needed to say it was a Harrell funny car. It wasnít even a funny car! This kind of talk is not fair or good for anyone. I see several names on this subject that call or Email Valerie and act buddy buddy then post crap to stir the pot. She has taken along with the grief of her dads death and losing everything to all the whores, including family and tried to salvage her fathers past for herself, her children and her grandchildren. It was said that Dick Harrell would be proud to hear his name of the loud speaker and to see his cars out there. 1st of all I knew Dick Harrell. He would not charge you people for information about your cars like Porterfield who had it all given to him. Dick would go out of his way to make building your car a dream come true. Therefore he would not be pleased to have people like Porterfield running his name.
Motown Madman quit hiding behind your keyboard and step up to the plate.
Dale Pulde aka Menmyfcs

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I would suggest you remove the referance to the red funnycar and the issues that took place.You never called me to get my side.I think that sounds familiar!!!