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Nova Pete 12-09-2020 11:52 AM

1969 L89 Camaro
 
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Damn nice car. I want it

1969 L89 CAMARO ~ ONE OF 311 PRODUCED. DOCUMENTED 9002 ORIGINAL MILES W PROTECTO PLATE. ONE OWNER FOR OVER 40 YEARS .NOT DRIVEN SINCE 1973 PRIOR TO RESTO. RARE OPTIONS INCLUDING FACTORY COWL INDUCTION AND RS W M22 410 BV REAR CHAMBERED EXHAUST,TACH AND GAUGES W ORIGINAL INTERIOR [NO CAPS IM JUST TOO TIRED TO DELETE AND REDO ]. ALUMINUM HEADS. THE ONLY OTHER CAR WITH ALUMINUM HEADS AND COWL INDUCTION IS THE ZL1 !! CAR WAS OREDERED TO RACE. IRONICALLY THE ADDRESS ON POP IS 1320 RACE ST IN CINNCINATTI OH !!! FROM FAMED HI PERFORMANCE DEALER QUEEN CITY CHEVROLET SELLING DEALER. REAL DEAL L89S ARE NOT EASY TO FIND $245,000 CALL FOR OWNER CONTACT INFORMATION.

Hotrodpaul 12-09-2020 01:31 PM

Nice car! I would be careful on these and do your do diligence, IMO. Many of these are re-made, rarer than a COPO.

Who is selling the car, looks like 427 King's place.

Charley Lillard 12-09-2020 02:18 PM

Yes Chuck has it listed on Facebook.

Kurt S 12-09-2020 02:40 PM

Reputedly the original owner has the WS and invoice.

bbbenny 12-09-2020 02:40 PM

L-89
 
LIKE said above! Do your homework on any of these cars. It;s your money. But use it wisley! BBBenny

Nova Pete 12-09-2020 02:59 PM

Jerry Mcniesh would be hired if I were to purchase this. Safest bet IMO

Hotrodpaul 12-09-2020 03:21 PM

Owner history and careful scrutiny of the engine and trans stampings would be on the top of my list. Documents can be faked especially when your talking about 250 Large for a car.

I would like to see the docs and stampings.

the427king 12-09-2020 03:39 PM

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A member her was instrumental in finding this ad from Jan 70 from Queen City Chevrolet. One of the stock #s says Lemans blue, aluminum head, cowl induction, chambered exhaust. The original owner told me he got pulled over on the KY border for illegal exhaust and I assumed thats what he meant . Now thats been documented as well with the ad. He also stated he got it for a hs graduation present and it was so expensive it had been left over, hence the ad for it almost a year from its build date. He stated there was a zl1 and he had his choice and took the L89 because of the color . No need to look any further, its 100 legit.I do my due diligence before I buy anything , not after. Car also has original POP and title in mothers name who had to be on the title since her son was underage . Great car !! Anyone that is interested can pay an outsider several thousand to give you their thoughts , or pay me the same few thousand and ill put in writing ill give you your money back and 50K for your trouble if its not authentic. He's got a yellow one I used to own as well if someone wants a different color. Benny you should know better than to post the due diligence stuff,youve seen the cars ive had for 35 years, please.

the427king 12-09-2020 03:43 PM

Car is 8th listed from bottom, I dont have the original copy with me and when enlarged it is illegible. Yes Kurt,the original owner told me he had the window sticker and/or invoice, along with the parts he took off the car . After his son found out online the car was really rare, he told the father to stop talking to me about the car and that was the end of discussions.

Sean 12-09-2020 06:36 PM

I would trust and have trusted Chuck's word more then the other person mentioned in this thread.

William 12-09-2020 06:54 PM

Since the COPO article on the the CRG site, I have heard from a few people wondering why the Queen City ZL1 wasn't listed. Not listed because there is no hard evidence they had one. Queen City was less than 10 miles from the Norwood plant. The returned cars sat there for months yet they were not on the re-distribution list for returned cars. Possible they could have acquired one later on via dealer trade, but odd they never advertised it anywhere.

Always open to new ZL1 history.

the427king 12-09-2020 08:57 PM

The original owner of the l89 said there was a zl1 on the lot when his mother bought him the camaro...he had his choice and chose the l89, he said it was due to color and he didnt want to make his mother spend that much more, not too many 17 yr old kids would have done that . It was Jan 70 so maybe it was another dealers car,no idea. But they had one . My recollection it was green or white. I didnt pay much attention to that detail. It could have been a non original car w a dealer zl1 I suppose as well..I'll try and see if time healed his pain of selling the car and will ask him if he answers the phone .

the427king 12-10-2020 01:23 AM

Real Copo w 20K miles is added to the listing .

cudino 12-10-2020 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Nova Pete (Post 1526080)
... THE ONLY OTHER CAR WITH ALUMINUM HEADS AND COWL INDUCTION IS THE ZL1 !! ...

FYI the two ‘69 “actual” Pacecars were also built as L89s with cowl induction.

- Wade

purple panther 12-10-2020 11:50 AM

i can assure any doubters chucks L-89 is 1000% real. Queen city sold at least 2 L- 89 camaros As for the queen city ZL-1 i can assure everyone one it was on the showroom for at least 6 months . Verified by my interviews with living queen city employees. Thats the most info i will let out on the ZL-1.

Tracker1 12-10-2020 02:53 PM

I'd buy it in a heartbeat. It's one of my lottery cars. Just gotta win!

fsc66 12-10-2020 03:09 PM

More legible
 
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fsc66 12-10-2020 03:11 PM

Last listing same ad
 
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Nova Pete 12-10-2020 03:26 PM

Duck hood.. lol

the427king 12-10-2020 04:24 PM

"FYI the two ‘69 “actual” Pacecars were also built as L89s with cowl induction."

I mean L89 cowl is the only other top end like the zl1, not to mean just this particular l89 cowl car
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William 12-10-2020 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by purple panther (Post 1526253)
i can assure any doubters chucks L-89 is 1000% real. Queen city sold at least 2 L- 89 camaros As for the queen city ZL-1 i can assure everyone one it was on the showroom for at least 6 months . Verified by my interviews with living queen city employees. Thats the most info i will let out on the ZL-1.

I have probably heard from all of them. One insisted it was an RS, not possible.

Is what you may know a State secret? Don't understand the paranoia. For decades, the SAAC has distributed info [VIN, selling dealer, ownership history] on multi-million dollar cars with no complaints. I can guarantee you all ZL1 Camaro VINs have been run through NCIC many times.

PeteLeathersac 12-10-2020 05:29 PM

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Here's a couple 05/69 Queen City ads I had posted previously in other threads, note Stock #1263 for the L89 RS.
I expect the ad fsc66 posted w/ 427 Demo is part of the same 01/70 ad 68GTO posted in another thread w/ L89 thought to be Chuck's, this ad included again as further below.
Note the LB car in the 01/70 ad is also Stock # 1263 so if the same car, what's the Build date of Chuck's car?:hmmm:
To clarify, I'm not questioning whether Chuck's car is genuine as I'm totally a believer in that but just jiving all info to confirm details.
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~ Pete

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PeteLeathersac 12-10-2020 05:30 PM

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PeteLeathersac 12-10-2020 05:31 PM

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the427king 12-10-2020 06:51 PM

L89 built Feb 69.....First Queen City ad shows May 69 date, second ad shows Jan 70 date on newspaper. In service date on car paperwork shows 4/70. Car sticker for around 4800.00 and was a hard sell, the dealer told the orig owner it was no radio car and they put a radio in it because noone wanted to spend 5K and not even have a radio. Picture of the car the day he brought it home shows an antenna in the pic. great history. whatever zl1 that was on the floor the day he bought this carpet sat around too because of price I assume. Pete, nice info. How about that wire wheel demo RS copo...

Nova Pete 12-10-2020 07:35 PM

Great information from everyone. Thanks so much.
All of it is very interesting.

Wish I had the money Chuck. I’d be right over. :beers:

ss427copo 12-11-2020 03:19 AM

L89 12A build...
 
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And, we celebrate its Dec 16, 1968 delivery in a few days! Thank you BWAG for your care before mine. It still looks pretty with 2089 miles on her!

Mike 12-11-2020 08:53 PM

That DEMO Camaro Coupe with the 427, turbo-hydromatic, PS, PB, Rally Sport, vinyl roof and wire wheels looks interesting. Anyone know anything about it? Has it been found?

Xplantdad 12-11-2020 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ss427copo (Post 1526385)
And, we celebrate its Dec 16, 1968 delivery in a few days! Thank you BWAG for your care before mine. It still looks pretty with 2089 miles on her!


What a bitchin Camaro, Jeff :) :worship::worship::worship:

GMC_Typhoon 12-12-2020 12:14 AM

The ZL1 that was supposedly at Queen City was Green. There are 12 green ZL1's. If I had a time I would dig into it but I don't really care, sure somebody can figure it out just by the process of elimination.

GMC_Typhoon 12-12-2020 12:51 AM

A green ZL1 that was sold
around April of 1970.

William 12-12-2020 02:45 AM

Actually 13.

Of them, only #65 has an Ohio connection. Ordered and sold by Lavery Chev, Alliance OH.

Two of the 10 FG Gibb cars, #36 [4-speed] and #45 [auto] are among the group that did not have a dealer re-assignment. Cars unsold as of May '69 were returned to Norwood and eventually re-invoiced to other dealers. It has been long presumed that Gibb returned 37 cars. If one of these two was returned, then that story changes.

It has been stated that QC had the ZL1 for at least 6 months. A Gibb ZL1 would have had a dealer invoice of around $5800, far more than any other Camaro in their inventory. They would have had significant interest in moving it and would have run newspaper ads for it ala Huebner. To date, no QC ad for a ZL1 Camaro has turned up.

the427king 12-12-2020 03:02 AM

There were typos in those ads for sure, and that dealer added options on cars maybe the 427 w wire wheel covers wasn't a iron motor 427 which everyone assumes because it doesn't say zl1 in the ad .

ss427copo 12-12-2020 04:12 AM

Off the transport....
 
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....break in the engine, changed out the tires then it snowed. They yank the L89 for a 427! Oh my. BWAG tells me it laid on the parts room floor for months and parts were scavenged as needed. He said the alum. heads were problematic...

purple panther 12-12-2020 11:31 AM

There are typos in the ads. The ZL-1 was advertised. Its also ran at edgewater park in cincinnati. The local guy also know more

William 12-12-2020 02:36 PM

Let's find those ads and add QC to the history of the ZL1 Camaro.

GMC_Typhoon 12-12-2020 06:38 PM

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This is only thing I found in Ohio.

69z2x4 12-12-2020 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by purple panther (Post 1526552)
There are typos in the ads. The ZL-1 was advertised. Its also ran at edgewater park in cincinnati. The local guy also know more

I knew a guy that had a ZL1 that ran at Edgewater but I can't remember his name off hand. I think he traded it for another 69..It probably came from OC.

PeteLeathersac 12-12-2020 07:43 PM

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We trolled for ZL1 ads a few years back in the Old Newspaper Ads thread, some on this linked page also others before/after...
https://www.yenko.net/forum/showthre...135780&page=32

The Degnan ZL1 was a new one then which was Bob Litchko's Schmidt's Beer sponsored car but VIN still unknown as this thread...
https://www.thesupercarregistry.net/...d.php?t=140935
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~ Pete

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Lee Stewart 12-12-2020 09:42 PM

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