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69hurstSC 08-20-2014 08:11 PM

Missing Muscle Cars
 
We all know of the missing 69 Ed Hedrick Yenko Camaro. But what are some of the other more prominent missing muscle cars, both race, production & concept?

cook_dw 08-20-2014 08:26 PM

Re: Missing Muscle Cars
 
68 Grumpy Camaro that went to Heavy then???????

69hurstSC 08-20-2014 09:07 PM

Re: Missing Muscle Cars
 
Check out this story! http://www.shelbymustang.com/morrison.php

luzl78 08-20-2014 09:33 PM

Re: Missing Muscle Cars
 
How about the 67 Grenada gold motion car that was painted white and was the first super club car?

old5.0 08-20-2014 09:39 PM

Re: Missing Muscle Cars
 
Should these be something that most people have heard of, or can local legends play along? There used to be a 67 or 68 Nickey Camaro running the streets around Marysville, KS. back in the early-mid 70's...

Pulnaway 08-20-2014 09:40 PM

Re: Missing Muscle Cars
 
Has Larry Clains Motion Vett ever been located?

old5.0 08-20-2014 09:40 PM

Re: Missing Muscle Cars
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: cook_dw</div><div class="ubbcode-body">68 Grumpy Camaro that went to Heavy then??????? </div></div>

OUSTANDING example. That car is the definition of a mystery.

PLATINUM6BBL 08-20-2014 10:53 PM

Re: Missing Muscle Cars
 
Back in 89/90 time frame my wife was attending Slippery Rock Univ and one of the students was driving what I thought was a clone of a '65 GT350 convertible that was Wimbelton White with Lemans Blue stripes. Had the quarter scoops, fiberglass hood and automatic on the floor with no console. I truly thought since there were no brake cooling ducts in the quarter scoops that it couldn't be a real GT350. Found out later that convertible couldn't have the cooling ducts. Also found out later that the only missing '65 GT350 convertible was the white &amp; blue stripe one. Kick myself for not digging further into what the car may have been.

300deluxeL79 08-20-2014 11:03 PM

Re: Missing Muscle Cars
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: cook_dw</div><div class="ubbcode-body">68 Grumpy Camaro that went to Heavy then??????? </div></div>

and his '68 chevy II and '69 camaro...

69LM1 08-20-2014 11:05 PM

Re: Missing Muscle Cars
 
I think that Heavy's orange 69 motion is still missing as well? Dan told me a story of how it was chained to a pole or some such, at a gas station while he was in jail.

Kinda missing, but not, is the 69 LM1 Convertible (Bob Johnson Racing Ent) that Joe Delorenzo broke several records with. That car is known to still be raced today by the Lucas team. I chatted with them about the car and they seemed to not really care about the historical connection...... And did'nt want to sell the car! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif[/img]

http://www.69lm1.com/picts/lm1nhrarecord.JPG

http://www.69lm1.com/picts/NHRA2.JPG

http://www.69lm1.com/picts/joed1.JPG

Rich

old5.0 08-20-2014 11:11 PM

Re: Missing Muscle Cars
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 69LM1</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I think that Heavy's orange 69 motion is still missing as well? Dan told me a story of how it was chained to a pole or some such, at a gas station while he was in jail.

Kinda missing, but not, is the 69 LM1 Convertible (Bob Johnson Racing Ent) that Joe Delorenzo broke several records with. That car is known to still be raced today by the Lucas team. I chatted with them about the car and they seemed to not really care about the historical connection...... And did'nt want to sell the car! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif[/img]

http://www.69lm1.com/picts/lm1nhrarecord.JPG

http://www.69lm1.com/picts/NHRA2.JPG

http://www.69lm1.com/picts/joed1.JPG

Rich </div></div>

I've heard the chained to a pole story, as well. Sometimes it's the 69, sometimes it's the 70.

68l30 08-21-2014 12:18 AM

Re: Missing Muscle Cars
 
That NHRA record ap looks familiar.... Here is the actual carbon print:

BIG

https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...5094-image.jpg

scuncio kid 08-21-2014 01:13 AM

Re: Missing Muscle Cars
 
Has the Joey Mason's
Motion Camaro ever been found ? The blue metalflake one that raced at Dover. Joel Rosen's Cobra is also mia

69hurstSC 08-21-2014 01:30 AM

Re: Missing Muscle Cars
 
Another one was/is Joe Oldham's Motion Camaro, which I think was stolen from his house.

http://i61.tinypic.com/2yzbeio.jpg

Also, the Hurst Nova seemed to disappear pretty early in its life.

http://i58.tinypic.com/1jmhj8.jpg

COPO140 08-21-2014 01:37 AM

Re: Missing Muscle Cars
 
What about the Black and Gold ZL1?

old5.0 08-21-2014 02:01 AM

Re: Missing Muscle Cars
 
What about the Knafel Golden Sabres and Magnum 400s?

m22mike 08-21-2014 10:44 AM

Re: Missing Muscle Cars
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: old5.0</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What about the Knafel Golden Sabres and Magnum 400s? </div></div>

Yep, that's rare.

https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...7-untitled.png

Tracker1 08-21-2014 11:46 AM

Re: Missing Muscle Cars
 
The Merollis ZL1s?

Supergas990 08-21-2014 12:20 PM

Re: Missing Muscle Cars
 
I thought the 1967 Granada Gold Motion Chevelle had been found and is being restored in the Northeast?

Still a lot of cars out there to be discovered.

Blair

olredalert 08-21-2014 02:10 PM

Re: Missing Muscle Cars
 
----Mike,,,I remember that building well. Bought my 72 Trans Am right out front from Bill K in 1973. It was his wifes driver for several months but still only had a couple of thousand miles on it. Popped on a set of Daises I already had later that day (day 1?). Then later that year I went over and bought a 73 GMC El Camino. It served its purpose, but I never liked it much. Bill was a pretty decent guy and easy to deal with.......Bill S

resto4u 08-21-2014 11:10 PM

Re: Missing Muscle Cars
 
blair, chevelle found. He was talking about the 67 camaro.

iluv69s 08-22-2014 12:18 AM

Re: Missing Muscle Cars
 
how about Malcolm Durham's ZL-1? apparently the block is out there..I suspect the car is still out there(along with other ZL-1's) but so chopped up, it would be hard to ever prove.

William 08-22-2014 02:02 AM

Re: Missing Muscle Cars
 
The Merollis ZL1s were re-distributed Gibb cars: #11, #24, #32, #37 &amp; #50. I ran the VINs several times back in the ‘80s and none of them were registered to insurance companies. Indications are all of them were recovered and sold at insurance auction. #11 has been in Ohio with the same owner since the ‘70s; #24 was on file as have been junked in MA in 1973. The others could have been junked, used up on the street or may survive as cut up drag cars with no tags. Be aware that the VINs are registered in Canada.

Ryan1969Chevelle 08-22-2014 02:05 AM

Re: Missing Muscle Cars
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: William</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The Merollis ZL1s were re-distributed Gibb cars: #11, #24, #32, #37 &amp; #50. I ran the VINs several times back in the ‘80s and none of them were registered to insurance companies. Indications are all of them were recovered and sold at insurance auction. #11 has been in Ohio with the same owner since the ‘70s; #24 was on file as have been junked in MA in 1973. The others could have been junked, used up on the street or may survive as cut up drag cars with no tags. Be aware that the VINs are registered in Canada. </div></div>

Don't worry they are now Canadian registered aluminum engined SkiDoos.

Ryan

1967Z28 08-22-2014 02:48 AM

Re: Missing Muscle Cars
 
How about the three MIA very early production 1967 Z-28 Camaros that went to Nickey Chevrolet? Where'd they go?

http://i586.photobucket.com/albums/s...psa2d1695d.jpg

69hurstSC 08-22-2014 02:57 AM

Re: Missing Muscle Cars
 
Is the 8th 69 Trans Am convertible accounted for?

iluv69s 08-22-2014 12:37 PM

Re: Missing Muscle Cars
 
Some of them early 67 Z's are probably still out there still...maybe disguised as SS's...


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 1967Z28</div><div class="ubbcode-body">How about the three MIA very early production 1967 Z-28 Camaros that went to Nickey Chevrolet? Where'd they go?

http://i586.photobucket.com/albums/s...psa2d1695d.jpg</div></div>

iluv69s 08-22-2014 12:47 PM

Re: Missing Muscle Cars
 
When you say none were registered to insurance companies... were they all registered to others?? Or no registration was found?

Did the insurance companies all register the cars after they were recovered???
Is there any othere evidence that all 6 cars were recovered? just curious...

I dont remember the story.. they were all stolen together?? from the dealer?? You would think it might have been news if they were all recovered?? just saying...

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: William</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The Merollis ZL1s were re-distributed Gibb cars: #11, #24, #32, #37 &amp; #50. I ran the VINs several times back in the ‘80s and none of them were registered to insurance companies. Indications are all of them were recovered and sold at insurance auction. </div></div>

William 08-22-2014 05:32 PM

Re: Missing Muscle Cars
 
Whatever happened to the Merollis ZL1s occurred in the fall of 1969. By the time of the inquiry the story was already 12 years old so who knows. The story, such as it was, was all five were taken, stripped of their engines/transmissions and other parts and left/dumped someplace. Since they couldn’t be easily moved it is likely they were abandoned wherever they were stripped.

Complicating the issue as new cars they weren’t titled; still on MSO. They were in the possession of the dealer but may have been legally owned by GMAC. Nothing new for them; they probably had thousands of damaged/theft recovered vehicles to process every year. The remains were likely taken to a salvage auction and sold; the new owner gets the MSO. From there who knows? At least two of them were reconstructed and legally registered. The other three may have gone to salvage yards, never to be titled or registered. They would be eventually parted out and destroyed. Maybe one was made into a race car also never titled. Stolen cars that are not recovered are titled to the insurance company that paid the claim and now legally owns them. #43 was stolen in 1972 and is still titled to an insurance company. Three of the Merollis ZL1s had no registration last I checked. That is not to say they were never registered; they just were not at that time. Expired registrations drop off after a few years. There is a difference between title and registration; I do not know if the searches I did looked for both but #43 always came up.

68l30 08-22-2014 06:06 PM

Re: Missing Muscle Cars
 
FWIW..I believe #11 was also a theft recovery. Not from Merollis, but it was stolen and recovered. Strange how all these Merollis ZL's got ripped...Easy pickin back then.


BIG

William 08-22-2014 06:38 PM

Re: Missing Muscle Cars
 
#11 was a Merollis car.

68l30 08-22-2014 07:19 PM

Re: Missing Muscle Cars
 
Correct, I know it was stolen, just can't remember if it was stolen from the Merrolis lot or the service garage...It later showed up with a 350 replacement.


BIG

camarojoe 08-22-2014 07:56 PM

Re: Missing Muscle Cars
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Pulnaway</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Has Larry Clains Motion Vett ever been located?
</div></div>

That's a good question... what ever became of that story?

iluv69s 08-22-2014 09:59 PM

Re: Missing Muscle Cars
 
I swear I remember hearing somewhere that it was an insurance thing...imagine 5 camaros at 7k each?? tough to sell...

COPO 08-23-2014 02:03 AM

Re: Missing Muscle Cars
 
Sounds like an inside job.

old5.0 08-23-2014 02:27 AM

Re: Missing Muscle Cars
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: COPO</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Sounds like an inside job. </div></div>

I thought I heard or read somewhere that Merollis had mob connections. Unless that was a different Merollis Chevrolet.

69hurstSC 09-02-2014 09:00 PM

Re: Missing Muscle Cars
 
Is Grumpy's Toy V still around?

http://i62.tinypic.com/34imdy0.jpg

Fast67VelleN2O 09-02-2014 09:09 PM

Re: Missing Muscle Cars
 
I can't believe no one has mentioned one of the most famous missing cars of all time.

1965 Z16 Chevelle convertible.

chevyman0429 09-02-2014 10:36 PM

Re: Missing Muscle Cars
 
Is there a known vin for this 65 Z16. Any known history

Mr70 09-02-2014 10:54 PM

Re: Missing Muscle Cars
 
Thought the Z16 cvt. was reported to be long destroyed by GM.


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