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L89DRMR 08-20-2009 04:00 PM

HURST SUNSHINE SPECIALS
 
Does anyone know where the Hurst Sunshine Special Camaros have ended up? Are all accounted for?

Thanks,
Dave

PeteLeathersac 08-20-2009 05:29 PM

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Isn't it three cars built and one exists?.

http://www.icehouse.net/camaros/hurst.htm

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~ Pete

Charley Lillard 08-20-2009 05:38 PM

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I used to own the yellow one. I think that is the only Camaro. I had traded it toward ZL1 # 18. It got restored by Camaro Heaven I think in Canada.

L89DRMR 08-20-2009 06:37 PM

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Hi Pete and Charley,

I did read about the yellow one owned by Charley but am surprised to learn the other two are missing. Hopefully they are still around somewhere since they are so unique and interesting and represent a moment in time.

Dave

SS427 08-20-2009 07:23 PM

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[ QUOTE ]
I used to own the yellow one. I think that is the only Camaro. I had traded it toward ZL1 # 18.

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Charley,
What prompted you to let this one leave your stable (other than the obvious trade up)? I would think an (only remaining or one of one) Hurst Sunshine Z28 Camaro like this would become almost a permanent fixture in your collection. Would this car still be considered extremely valuable or one of those "rare but not highly sought after" cars?

Charley Lillard 08-20-2009 07:37 PM

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I don't know that they built more than one Camaro. I know in a book they mention 3 being built but I have never seen any documentation or any other cars. At the time I traded it I had never owned a ZL1 and had a chance to trade into one. I didn't have the cash to buy one outright. The Hurst car was also very rusty. Where the leaf springs attach forward of the diff the body panels are about 3 layers thick and they were completely swollen and rotted. Tough to fix correctly short of buying another car for body parts. Had half 1/4 panels glassed in etc. Wish I had it back now that it is restored.

SS427 08-20-2009 07:46 PM

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Aw yes, now I understand. Can't say as I blame you there.

beater68427 08-20-2009 10:50 PM

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[ QUOTE ]
I used to own the yellow one. I think that is the only Camaro. I had traded it toward ZL1 # 18. It got restored by Camaro Heaven I think in Canada.

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Charley, Did you get it from a man in Mission Viejo, there was a guy who had a 71 RT Challenger for sale I looked at years ago a easy 20 years ago he had the Yellow Camaro in his garage and told me the history of it. At the time I had no idea what it was and was not interested in the Camaro with a hole in the roof.... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...emlins/eek.gif

BARN FIND 08-20-2009 11:08 PM

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I am not trying to nit-pick but...after looking at the pictures I noticed that the dash above the radio has the later 1973ish seat belt light. It is odd that when it was restored the correct non-seatbelt light dash was not installed.

Charley Lillard 08-20-2009 11:56 PM

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I don't remember where I got it. Somewhere back east I think. A Dr Cruz had owned it. He went to Thailand or someplace like that and had paid storage on the car for a year. He never came back to get the car and could not be reached so whoever was storing it did a Lein sale on it and put it up for sale.

Late BrakeU2 08-21-2009 12:22 AM

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If you look a the link Pete provided, it shows a document from Auto Club of So Cal describing the Car. The letterhead is from the old Admin office on Figueroa St. in downtown L.A. It's written in third person, but note at the bottom it describes the first registered owner as an Alan D. Jones, but is also signed by An Alan Jones. Not conclusive, but perhaps at one point it did reside in So Cal.

sixtnine 08-21-2009 04:05 AM

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I may be wrong but didn't BFG run an ad years ago with a Yellow Hurst Sunshine Special?

quik9r 08-21-2009 05:35 AM

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That car did show up completely restored at a Toronto indoor car show (performance world) in the last 5 years, and was presented by Richard English. Nice car but like most things how believable.

owners2 08-21-2009 06:14 AM

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O.K. Charlie what haven't you owned . [ QUOTE ]
I used to own the yellow one. I think that is the only Camaro. I had traded it toward ZL1 # 18. It got restored by Camaro Heaven I think in Canada.

[/ QUOTE ] https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ins/3gears.gif

beater68427 08-21-2009 04:59 PM

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[ QUOTE ]
I don't remember where I got it. Somewhere back east I think. A Dr Cruz had owned it. He went to Thailand or someplace like that and had paid storage on the car for a year. He never came back to get the car and could not be reached so whoever was storing it did a Lein sale on it and put it up for sale.

[/ QUOTE ]

Sounds like the same car to me the man who owned it would have been in the late 80's He was a Asain American It was in Mission Viejo off of marguerite parkway, a friend of mine lived around the corner from him.

PATRICKJOINER 09-02-2009 04:20 PM

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Is this the one known of that was Charlie's?

http://www.legendarymotorcar.com/site/10037



Charley Lillard 09-02-2009 05:19 PM

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That's the one.

BJCHEV396 09-03-2009 03:21 AM

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I don't know much about these Camaros.Legendary Motors wants $125k for one.Are they rare or desirable enough to justify the money? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif

owners2 09-03-2009 04:32 PM

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[ QUOTE ]
I am not trying to nit-pick but...after looking at the pictures I noticed that the dash above the radio has the later 1973ish seat belt light. It is odd that when it was restored the correct non-seatbelt light dash was not installed.

[/ QUOTE ] For that kind of money you think they would correct that !!!

G28 05-05-2012 02:40 PM

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Wow, I thought I'd look up my uncle's "lost" camaro and this forum pops up. Amazing to read the story and history of what happened to the car after it left our family's hands. This is difinitely the car "that got away" and is very taboo in our family. I should try and post a couple of pics of when it was still in our possesion.

Charley Lillard 05-05-2012 03:34 PM

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Welcome to the site. Pics would be great. I used to own that car but it had more rust than I wanted to deal with.

G28 05-05-2012 03:48 PM

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I'll try post pics as soon as can. I noticed you didn't recall where you purchased the car. And you mentioned Dr.Cruz. Well Dr.Cruz is my uncle (my dad's brother) and like you mentioned he moved from the mainland to Guam in the early 90s. The post about him being in his 80s is incorrect as he's currently in his early 50s. The man in his early 80s must have been his father in law. And I do remember the 71 R/T challenger that was also mentioned. It was plum crazy purple. What I remember and what I've been told by my father was that my uncle was offered a job on Guam as surgeon, being that Dr.Cruz is Chamorro (original people of Guam) and is originally from Guam, he took the job and shipped a few of his muscle cars back to Guam with the exception of the Camaro.

G28 05-05-2012 03:53 PM

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He was worried about storage for the car due to Guam's salty air. Like you said, at some point he fell behind on storage fees and the storage company or whoever has left to care for the car was unable to contact him. That's when he lost the car because a lien title was made and the car was sold. By the time he was able to get in contact with the storage facility the car was long gone. I know for a fact that he regrets this tremendously and does not like to speak about the car or see it online. The pic I have shows the car with the Michigan plate. And he did live in Mission Vejo for several years while his was doing his residency for his medical degree requirements or what not.

G28 05-05-2012 04:00 PM

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Also, I remember this car because it was parked at my house in Moreno Valley for period of time. I remember cleaning it with father on the weekends. My Dad told me that uncle had picked up the car cheap. I remember him saying at first Dr.Cruz was hesitant becuase of the sunroof. He figured, whoa nice car but someone chopped it up, what a waste. I guess he did some research and found out the car's history and then immediately went back and bought it. If you google pics of the car, there some pics of it where it was photographed in an area that looks sandy. Those photos where taken at a location a few minutes from our house for some Camaro book. Also, if you look at the instruction manual for a 90-92 Camaro, the Hurst Z/28 is in a pic in front of a dinner.

G28 05-05-2012 04:09 PM

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He still has a letter from GM thanking him for allowing them to use the car for photograph. I'll try and get a pic of that if he'll let me as soon as get done with my deployment. Well, sorry if I'm boring you guys, but I thought people might have been interested. I know I'm very interested in the car! The car and my uncle have had a big impact/influence on me also, as I'm a huge camaro fan. It was nice to be around such a awesome piece of muscle car history growing up. I called Legendardy Motorsports recently and they told me the car sold in the "6 figure range" and the owner was a prominent collector from the U.S. They also said he would sell it if the price was in the "6 figure range". Now if I can just convince my uncle to go buy his old car back.......

wundercluck 05-05-2012 06:00 PM

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Wow! Great story about the car!

olredalert 05-05-2012 08:17 PM

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----Theres little chance of boring anyone in this crowd when talking musclecar history, so "NO" worries there. Very neat car and terrific history.....Bill S

69LM1 05-05-2012 09:00 PM

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G28, Thaks for sharing your memories. No bordeom for me! It is rare that we hear from owners, relatives and others that know some history on a car.

Kool..... And pics would be great.

Welcome to the site.

RichP

G28 05-12-2012 03:15 PM

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http://s965.photobucket.com/albums/ae136...ser_media_share

http://s965.photobucket.com/albums/ae136...ser_media_share

http://s965.photobucket.com/albums/ae136...ser_media_share

Xplantdad 05-12-2012 03:40 PM

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Here you go!

http://i965.photobucket.com/albums/a...z/5b120fb3.jpg

http://i965.photobucket.com/albums/a...z/273020e7.jpg

http://i965.photobucket.com/albums/a...z/a3e38b64.jpg

Xplantdad 05-12-2012 03:42 PM

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Looks like two 88-89 4runners in the background... [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif[/img]

G28 05-12-2012 03:45 PM

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Thanks a lot!!!! I was having a hard time opening the pics on my mac so sorry for the pic quality. I ended just taking pics of the pics with my iphone. And then loading it to photobucket. Well thanks again and I hope you guys enjoy.

These pics were taken at Dr.Cruz house in Mission Vejeo in the late 80s if I'm not mistaken.

Xplantdad 05-12-2012 03:49 PM

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You are welcome...

With the 88-89 4 runners in the background....I think that makes sense! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif[/img]

kuro 05-13-2012 04:11 PM

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Ok I like !!

owners2 05-13-2012 10:07 PM

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Xplantdad</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Here you go!

http://i965.photobucket.com/albums/a...z/5b120fb3.jpg

http://i965.photobucket.com/albums/a...z/273020e7.jpg

http://i965.photobucket.com/albums/a...z/a3e38b64.jpg </div></div> is that an emblem on the back center spoiler or a decal. Thanks jeff

RAIIIT/A 05-13-2012 11:53 PM

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Those pics must have been taken right after the car came to California.... as it is still wearing Michigan plates...

flathood 05-14-2012 03:03 AM

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Do you know what cars he shipped to Guam? Cool story.

L72copocamaro 05-14-2012 03:33 AM

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&quot;is that an emblem on the back center spoiler or a decal. Thanks jeff&quot;

It looks like it is standing off like an emblem to me.

G28 05-14-2012 06:41 AM

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Its an emblem for sure.

He shipped a low mileage 67 rs/ss camaro convertible and a 70 cuda hemi clone convertible. He stills owns both cars that he shipped back plus several others he's picked up since then.

If you google images of &quot;Mike Cruz Lieutenant Governor of Guam&quot; a couple pics will pop up of his 70 RT/SE hemi challenger.


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