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terjohn 10-12-2008 04:48 PM

68 yenko
 
does anyone know or have info on this yenko
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Chevrolet...d=p4506.c0.m245

thanks https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif

FASTONE 10-12-2008 06:01 PM

Re: 68 yenko
 
If anyone does know this car, I'm curious what that tag in the door jamb is that is rivited on below the YENKO tag. Is it a Tennessee re-assigned title?

Charley Lillard 10-12-2008 06:18 PM

Re: 68 yenko
 
The car was supposedly stolen in about 69 and recovered right away but the vin tag under the windshield is gone. That tag under the Yenko tag is a Tenn DMV assigned tag but it is supposed to have the same vin that was on the stolen tag. I was told it was for sale for 125K but the guy brokering it also needed something. Then I called the current seller who apparently was the broker but had since bought it and he said he had never heard of the 125K price and the price was 210K. I'm also told it was priced to someone else at 240K. Beside the engine and trans being gone the big items are the Yenko hood and the 140 speedo are also gone. Body looks nice and Corvette Bronze is a great color. It could be a great car when done.

Xplantdad 10-12-2008 10:49 PM

Re: 68 yenko
 
Ah yes...the ever changing price... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/rolleyes.gif

YenkoYS100 10-12-2008 11:35 PM

Re: 68 yenko
 
How would anyone here price it? What would it's market value be? Would anyone here (if they owned it), take a big hit on it because of the current economy status?

Just curious...........???? Not that I need it, I already have a Corvette Bronze '68 with an empty engine bay. LOL

Xplantdad 10-12-2008 11:42 PM

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I guess anywhere from 125k to 240k... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/hmmm.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif

JoeG 10-13-2008 12:15 AM

Re: 68 yenko
 
Said like a true politician Bruce.... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/wink.gif

YenkoYS100 10-13-2008 12:37 AM

Re: 68 yenko
 
Yeah.........made my curiousity clear as mud! LOL

Xplantdad 10-13-2008 12:40 AM

Re: 68 yenko
 
Hey Joe...long time no hear from... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

YenkoYS100...I really have no idea...I just think it's funny when the price fluctuates on a car...depending on who's asking...

YenkoYS100 10-13-2008 12:46 AM

Re: 68 yenko
 
Thanks Bruce! Cannot remember seeing any early Yenko projects sell in a long time.

FASTONE 10-13-2008 12:48 AM

Re: 68 yenko
 
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How would anyone here price it? What would it's market value be? Would anyone here (if they owned it), take a big hit on it because of the current economy status?

Just curious...........???? Not that I need it, I already have a Corvette Bronze '68 with an empty engine bay. LOL

[/ QUOTE ]I was interested in the car, but with the VIN issue, I'm not even going to pursue it. Thats just me though

YenkoYS100 10-13-2008 01:41 AM

Re: 68 yenko
 
If it's a known car, the VIN is not really an issue, as long as all on car are legit. But, that's my opinion.

427.060 10-13-2008 02:50 AM

Re: 68 yenko
 
Didn't Legendary have a Corvette Bronze 68 Yenko for sale last year for $400K? I believe it was the one Bill Wertheim had restored. Anyone know what happened to that car?
James

Charley Lillard 10-13-2008 05:46 AM

Re: 68 yenko
 
I don't think there is any funny business going on with the vin. I was just pointing it out because the auction did not mention the lack of vin tag under the windshield or lack of the 140 speedo. Those are items I would be pissed to find out were missing if I bought the car and they were gone.

enio45 10-13-2008 07:20 AM

Re: 68 yenko
 
Charlie, James or Rick, any idea of what a fair value would be for this car? This car is 3 cars after my non converted car and same production date of 07E.

Charley Lillard 10-13-2008 08:03 AM

Re: 68 yenko
 
I don't want to speculate on it in today's uncertain economic times. Ebay should be a good value indicator if it sells.

BARN FIND 10-13-2008 12:18 PM

Re: 68 yenko
 
Just out of curiosity, does anyone know how long the current owner has had this car?

Charley Lillard 10-13-2008 06:12 PM

Re: 68 yenko
 
I believe it was owned by someone else on Oct 2nd when I was told about it at the Mecum auction.

firstgenaddict 10-13-2008 06:29 PM

Re: 68 yenko
 
When was the last time a 68 Yenko traded hands? Waht was the number?

Charley Lillard 10-13-2008 06:48 PM

Re: 68 yenko
 
Barrett-Jackson 2007, lot # 1298, 170,000.00 YS8021

firstgenaddict 10-13-2008 07:02 PM

Re: 68 yenko
 
and there we have it... back the numbers out... and deduct for the economy if you like...
I guess less than six figures is what it is worth...

427freak 10-13-2008 08:33 PM

Re: 68 yenko
 
Hey Charley
You didn't happen to get the rearend code did you? Thanks
Dana

ps Just guessing but I bet you couldn't buy YS 8021 for 170k + juice today https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/wink.gif

427.060 10-14-2008 02:24 AM

Re: 68 yenko
 
I know Bill Wertheim sold his for more than $170,000, a lot more. His was YS-8051. I think it scored a perfect 1000 point at it's first show.
James

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firez 10-14-2008 04:13 AM

Re: 68 yenko
 
I seen that car that Bob Harris and his shop restored at Camaro Specialties. Outstanding looking car in person. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ins/3gears.gif

Les Quam 10-18-2008 10:33 PM

Re: 68 yenko
 
A current owner of a beautiful 68 Yenko Camaro has turned down 500K in real money from two different buyers as recently as labor day and I personally witnessed the rejection of the offers so it is not an unsubstantiated rumor. In terms of full disclosure I don't own a 68 Yenko Camaro.

NovaMob03 10-19-2008 08:38 PM

Re: 68 yenko
 
Why would '68's pull stronger $$ than 69's https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif $500K is huge https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/worship.gif
This '68 bids to 145K and looks like it needs another 100 to restore. That seems high to me, but I like that color and suppose if I had deep pockets, the price wouldn't matter.

camarojoe 10-20-2008 02:52 AM

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Why would '68's pull stronger $$ than 69's https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif

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This seems to be common thinking, but personally I believe a better question would be "Why wouldn't they?" With 64 units built vs. 198 with every bit as many (often more) unique features as the 69's...they always were and always will be the rarer Yenko Camaro to own. Case in point...SCR11 featured about a dozen 69 Yenko Camaros but only ONE 68. This isn't unusual, I don't think I've EVER seen more than 2 or 3 in one place at one time, so there's no denying they're a more "exclusive" Yenko to own than a 69. I'll be the first to admit the 69 Camaro body is an overall better looking car than a 68, but there's no denying the coolness of a 68 sYc car with redline tires and fiberglass hood, and the rarity of them should make them at least as valuable as a 69 IMO. Same goes for documented 67 Yenko Camaros too, as far as that goes.

Born30YrsLate 10-20-2008 05:33 AM

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...I had thought that because the '69 Yenko Camaros were the only factory 427 cars that would help balance out with the rarity of '67 and '68 which were engine transplant cars...

csx289 10-21-2008 09:33 PM

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...I had thought that because the '69 Yenko Camaros were the only factory 427 cars that would help balance out with the rarity of '67 and '68 which were engine transplant cars...


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Fred, and my opinion was always just the opposite. The fact that '67 and '68 Y Camaros were actually converted at Yenko, by Yenko techs, and were a true dealer-built Supercar is what makes them more desirable than a Chevy-built '69 to me. Especially when a '69 Y Camaro is a decal and trim addition only to a COPO 427 car, yes, it is cool to have a factory installed motor in your Yenko but knowing that anybody in 1969 could walk into any Chevy dealer (not just Yenko) and buy essentially the same car takes away some of the uniqueness and special nature of the 67/68 cars.

In the case of the '68 cars, while I am not in general a huge fan of 68 Camaro (or many other 68 cars for that matter, seemed to be an off year in Detriot!), to me the 68 Yenko is a very special animal. It is the last year that Yenko actually built cars at Yenko Chevrolet (ie, converted them in the shop) but it is also the first year they used a special COPO package built by Chevy for Yenko on these cars. So you have a Chevy COPO L78 with a Yenko-installed 427 CE shortblock. Not a complete motor swap, just the basement https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif Plus, as Joe pointed out, the cool 68 only "67 Shelby" style hood, 68 only Pontiac Rally II wheels, and the lowest production numbers of all 3 years with 64 cars built.

Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love 69 Yenko Camaros as well and have owned a good number of them. And I sure as heck would love to own another and to add a '67 to the mix if I could find a good one with good paper. But there is a really good reason I have kept my '68 - I just think they are the most unique of all 3 years, the lowest # built, and I really like the COPO+Yenko build. And, being a Pontiac/Shelby guy the wheels and the hood make me feel like I am not cheating https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/naughty.gif

As far as the eBay car....even a $100k resto won't bring back all the original stuff that is missing or replace the factory VIN tags. And I highly doubt you could properly restore that car with correct (replacement) components and all the unique '68 stuff for anywhere near $100k. I spent almost $100k freshening my car and it was a Camaro Nats Gold Concours winner in the late-1990's. For example, I had to buy 3 NOS SW 990 tach senders just to get one dated 3/68...let's not even talk about finding the right NOS smog or early '68 JA-code 14" Pontiac Rally II wheels with good lug holes! I think it took me 15 wheels to get 5 good ones.

I'm guessing the eBay car can't be bought for much under $200k, add to that maybe $150k in resto and parts, and somebody would have an awesome 68 in a great color - but always with the story on the VIN and lots of repo/replacement parts. Still, might be worth it for somebody that really wants a 68. Looks like a pretty solid old body.

Colin

Unreal 10-22-2008 12:49 AM

Re: 68 yenko
 
Anyone could walk into a Chevy dealer and order a COPO -- IF (big IF)they knew about it. Apparently few did as there were only about 1000 units built.

Same would be true about the 68 Yenko. With Yenko's network, you could walk into any Yenko dealer and buy one. Few did as only 64 were built.

I think the coolest 68s out there are COPO9737 L78s that did not get converted. I think I'd rather have one of those with its born with L78 driveline, than have a converted 427. But that's just me....I can't afford either. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/smile.gif

camarojoe 10-22-2008 01:42 AM

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Plus, as Joe pointed out, the cool 68 only "67 Shelby" style hood, 68 only Pontiac Rally II wheels, and the lowest production numbers of all 3 years with 64 cars built.




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Not to pick nits, but 67 was actually the lowest production year for the Yenko Camaro.

https://www.yenko.net/attachments/363694-ebay015.jpg


csx289 10-22-2008 01:58 AM

Re: 68 yenko
 
Joe,ummm, 107 +/- '67's and 64 +/- '68's...you teachers and your new math https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif You must be of the "less is more" school of thought?

As far as converted vs. non-converted 68's? I think the few non-converted cars are very cool and no doubt extremely rare. But for me, the whole reason to own a Supercar is to have that special part that makes it "Super" and in the case of Yenko Camaros it is the 427 engine.

I have to go now, because I think Ed Montini will be burning a cross in my yard soon LOL. Don't take it personally, Ed, I like non-converted cars a ton- just happen to like my 31 extra cubic inches and the fact that Yenko's guys spun wrenches on my car to put it in and make it a Yenko Super Camaro as opposed to a COPO L78 car.

I have my fire extinguisher ready for all the flaming I am about to get https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/naughty.gif

Colin

camarojoe 10-22-2008 02:14 AM

Re: 68 yenko
 
Heck, I'm just the art teacher... Counting isn't even in my job description. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ins/tongue.gif I DO teach the "less is more" theory though... especially when dealing with Elmer's Glue and 5 year olds. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif

Chevy454 10-22-2008 05:07 AM

Re: 68 yenko
 
Yeah, but...the '69s are faster! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/naughty.gif

Born30YrsLate 10-22-2008 06:07 AM

Re: 68 yenko
 
Coling...I appreciate your viewpoint...now you got me rethinking the entire situation...you're pretty good writer, you should write a book https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif

quote "For example, I had to buy 3 NOS SW 990 tach senders just to get one dated 3/68..."quote

Do you have any of those extra SW tach senders laying around that you won't use?...I'm looking at picking one up sometime. I can just picture you buying a bunch of these and opening them up to see what's inside just like the kids in Charley and the Chocolate Factory looking for the golden ticket.

JoeC 10-22-2008 02:53 PM

Re: 68 yenko
 
There may be less 67s then 68s
Vince E. said 54 67s and 64 68s
I don't think his list has the Yenko Stompers but not many of them were built.

PeteLeathersac 10-22-2008 04:25 PM

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Joe,ummm, 107 +/- '67's and 64 +/- '68's...you teachers and your new math https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif You must be of the "less is more" school of thought?

Colin

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Joe may be correct if you figure it out like this?.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJS8GszWJuQ

https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/hmmm.gif
~ Pete

sYc 10-22-2008 05:46 PM

Re: 68 yenko
 
Even though the Yenko paperwork clearly shows 107 VINs, 1967 Yenko Camaros IMO, when it comes to such cars, the number built is not as important as the number of documented cars that exist today. Such as '69 Yenko Novas, 9 known to exist, how many built/sold 37, 40, ? The problem is some of the lists seem to contain both converted and unconverted cars, and of course factor in documented cars that are not on the list, then the number built/sold is really subject to debate. On the other hand, it is easier to get close to the number of documented cars known to exist. Of course Don did not help matters when questioned about numbers built.

enio45 10-22-2008 08:33 PM

Re: 68 yenko
 
Colin - no cross burning this weekend planned! I just appreciate to be able to be involved in the mix with all of you and the non coverted car. Its fair to recognise they are very rare cars with the proper pedigree etc.

Rest easy this weekend :-))

Xplantdad 10-22-2008 10:30 PM

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Colin - no cross burning this weekend planned! I just appreciate to be able to be involved in the mix with all of you and the non coverted car. Its fair to recognise they are very rare cars with the proper pedigree etc.

Rest easy this weekend :-))

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Great Ed...Now what am I supposed to do this weekend? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif


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