WOW! The Find of a Lifetime! 1963 SD 421 Tempest!
 

WOW! Check out this auction! The owner just thought he had just an old '63 Tempest Drag car but it turns out to be the missing Stan Long Pontiac-sponsored factory built Super Duty 421 car. This car is 1-of-6 and only one other is accounted for. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...67#description

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Here's the car back in the day.

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Great find !! I hope you have the car under 24 hour guard with dogs and shotguns. This thing is so valuable I'm afraid someone might try to steal it....more
Answered on Nov-05-08
A: YEP = PITBULL WITH AIDS AND A SAWED OFF 12 GAUGE AUTOMATIC , GOT'ER UNDER CONTROL, THANKS

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https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/cool.gif piece. Sure would be good to see this one brought back to life.

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A: No, I BELIEVE IT WAS ONE OWNER UNTIL HE PASSED AWAY LAST YEAR. IT WAS AQUIRED BY CURRENT OWNER BY WAY OF YEARS OF STORAGE BILL. THANKS

Sounds like the Leno Doosie,,talk about a blind squirrel finding acorn!

"Wild" Bill Shrewsberry..i remember him back in the day at OCIR driving the L.A dart wheelstand car..never knew he raced an AFX poncho for MT.

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the front is aluminum? Its rusting in the pics..

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The aluminum front end has been replaced by a steel nose but the ORIGINAL aluminum front nose from this very car is still in the hands of an enthusiast. I hope they can be reunited. Check out the cool headers that were found in the trunk! I think it shows something like 3XXXX original miles. The freakin' tow bar is still hooked up to the front of the car!

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Whttps://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...emlins/eek.gifW!!!

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Awesome! Would love to see it brought back to its former glory. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/worship.gif

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This needs to find its way to Tiemann's shop!

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Great find !! I hope you have the car under 24 hour guard with dogs and shotguns. This thing is so valuable I'm afraid someone might try to steal it....more
Answered on Nov-05-08
A: YEP = PITBULL WITH AIDS AND A SAWED OFF 12 GAUGE AUTOMATIC , GOT'ER UNDER CONTROL, THANKS

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Yep, that was my question to him. I had no idea if he would post it or not. Cars less valuable have come up missing at car shows lately, and this guy is inviting people to come see it? I'd have armed guards and require 2 pieces of i.d. just to come on the property. Its good that he is going to let the auction run the course. I congratulate him on doing that. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/headbang.gif It's one heck of a find, and he had no idea when this all started. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/flag.gif

He posted more pictures on another ebay auction.

http://cgi.ebay.com/WORTHLESS-PICTURES_W...sspagenameZWDVW

It's amazing that the original factory stainless steel headers remain with the car. Tiemann wont have to build them when he does the restore. Just a shame that Randy Williams isn't here today to buy it.

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X2! Wow, what a neat find....talk about fallin' into a bucket of you-know-what and comin' out smellin' like a rose https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/drool.gif

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More than a little cool and agree ripe for a Tiemann dose.

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Incredible find and IF the price of scrap was higher it would have been a new Toyota ...

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This being a FACTORY-BUILT A/FX car, it's neat to think of the cars' that this little Tempest lined up against back in the day : Z-11 Impalas, lightweight Max Wedges and fiberglass Ford Galaxies and Thunderbolts! WOW! Wish they could talk. When the auction started, the seller did not have access to the trunk (locked with no key), but did you see the updated pictures of what was finally found in he trunk?! The original Tri-Y headers AND the original SD421 Tempest exhaust manifolds with the factory balance tube and dumps! Simply incredible.

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Very cool car. My mom has a 62 tempest and they are odd little cars. I know they aren't easy to find parts for.

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As I understand, when Randy Williams had Scott do the SD Tempest wagon, the radiator was scrap, so he contacted Harrison Radiator Division and had them pull the old blueprints and make a "brand new" radiator. It is something like the Corvette aluminum radiator but not that close. Since Harrison wanted big $$$$$$, and Randy wanted an exact radiator, he had Harrison make some extras. Scott might know where those extra radiators went and how to get a hold of one. That would be a hugh plus. Whoever gets that Tempest will have one of the rarest cars made. I'm sure they will have deep enough pockets to have it done right. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/worship.gif

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http://i1.ebayimg.com/01/i/001/18/90/a5f7_1.JPG

WORTHLESS PICTURES

"OK PEOPLE= ENUF IS ENUF... I POSTED THIS ITEM 24 HOURS AGO AND IT HAS 2000 HITS OR MY COUNTER IS BROKE.
ALL I CAN FIGURE OUT IS THAT PEOPLE ARE SEARCHING FOR PICTURES OF MCAIN OR OBAMA. WILL SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME WHY THERE ARE SO MANY VIEWS. I MIGHT EVEN POST IT."


You think this was a hint of something special?

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This being a FACTORY-BUILT A/FX car, it's neat to think of the cars' that this little Tempest lined up against back in the day : Z-11 Impalas, lightweight Max Wedges and fiberglass Ford Galaxies and Thunderbolts! WOW! Wish they could talk. When the auction started, the seller did not have access to the trunk (locked with no key), but did you see the updated pictures of what was finally found in he trunk?! The original Tri-Y headers AND the original SD421 Tempest exhaust manifolds with the factory balance tube and dumps! Simply incredible.

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not to mention the very first Race Hemi's debuted in January of 64.

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Toooooooooooo Coooooooooool and WOW!!!
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check out the Ubly Dragway plate on the dash I just raced there a couple weeks ago. What a find. Just think how many of these type of cars are still out there. Makes you wonder if it weren't for the internet how many of these cars would we know about.

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I am currently reading Glory Days by Jim Wanger. These are the cars he was involved in while working for Pontiac. It is a very interesting story on how this type of car was developed.

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Always great people finding great cars on this sight.
Someone besides me wants this car I've bid 2 now in 2 hours once I jumped 5 next I jumped 8 bothe times within 10 minuets gg has outbid me.. Im out at 52 easy 125 in resto nom motor trans and rear parts will be a fortune.. Im not sure all in at 200 is a smart move in the present economy, maybe Im wrong.....

richard

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Also being discussed here..the pit bull owner had a buy it now for 4k until someone spilled the beans-apparentely the steel front clip threw everyone off until someone actually checked the VIN from the manifest.
http://forums.performanceyears.com/f...d.php?t=578923

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Here's the car back in the day.

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Cool pics Mark!.
Looking closely, the ding in the passenger's side of the rear bumper of the eBay car appears to be already there in the early pics too?.

~ Pete
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Amazing find..
Funny replies on some of those ask the seller questions.

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On Nov-05-08 at 16:40:24 PST, seller added the following information:

AS YOU ALL KNOW BY NOW , THIS IS THE SD THAT WAS DRIVEN BY STAN ANTLOCER. I,M NOT SURE ABOUT RETREIVING THE FRONT CLIP FROM FLORIDA,THAT WILL BE THE WINNERS QUEST. HOWEVER HOUSTON WE HAVE A PROBLEM. THE PAYMENT METHOD WAS FEDERAL RESERVE NOTES OR PAYPAL AND I CAN,T SEE TRYING TO PULL THIS MUCH MULA OUTTA PAYPAL. SO YOU NEED TO CONSIDER A DUFFLE BAG FULL OF THE GREEN STUFF. THANKS,DALE

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Amazing find..
Funny replies on some of those ask the seller questions.

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Q: Congatulations on winning the lottery.... with so many Pontiac enthusiasts watching your auction I was wondering if you could post this message.I am looking for my fathers car a 1963 Tempest called the JOLLY GREEN GIANT.Run in the early through late 60`s throughout the midwest by JIM HUMIKOWSKI. NEVER OWNED OR DRIVEN BY ARNNIE BESWICK.He was just smart enough to market it.If you could post this I would be VERY THANKFULL. Anyone with info could please contact me at [email protected] THANK YOU VERY MUCH!! Nov-05-08
A: NOT SURE IF THAT WOULD BE EBAY POLICY TO DO THAT, SORRY

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He was going to have it crushed when the price of steel went up.He took it in but they would not do it without a title.I see he has one now.

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Perhaps the guy in FL with the orig. front clip is bidding. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/wink.gif

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On Nov-05-08 at 16:40:24 PST, seller added the following information:

AS YOU ALL KNOW BY NOW , THIS IS THE SD THAT WAS DRIVEN BY STAN ANTLOCER. I,M NOT SURE ABOUT RETREIVING THE FRONT CLIP FROM FLORIDA,THAT WILL BE THE WINNERS QUEST. HOWEVER HOUSTON WE HAVE A PROBLEM. THE PAYMENT METHOD WAS FEDERAL RESERVE NOTES OR PAYPAL AND I CAN,T SEE TRYING TO PULL THIS MUCH MULA OUTTA PAYPAL. SO YOU NEED TO CONSIDER A DUFFLE BAG FULL OF THE GREEN STUFF. THANKS,DALE

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A person gets a tip that he has found a needle in a hatstack; and somehow figures his fortune found through the wonder of the internet is not being picked up on by Uncle Sam.
P.S. Now, auction may suddenly end.

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On Nov-05-08 at 16:40:24 PST, seller added the following information:

AS YOU ALL KNOW BY NOW , THIS IS THE SD THAT WAS DRIVEN BY STAN ANTLOCER. I,M NOT SURE ABOUT RETREIVING THE FRONT CLIP FROM FLORIDA,THAT WILL BE THE WINNERS QUEST. HOWEVER HOUSTON WE HAVE A PROBLEM. THE PAYMENT METHOD WAS FEDERAL RESERVE NOTES OR PAYPAL AND I CAN,T SEE TRYING TO PULL THIS MUCH MULA OUTTA PAYPAL. SO YOU NEED TO CONSIDER A DUFFLE BAG FULL OF THE GREEN STUFF. THANKS,DALE

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A person gets a tip that he has found a needle in a hatstack; and somehow figures his fortune found through the wonder of the internet is not being picked up on by Uncle Sam.
P.S. Now, auction may suddenly end.

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Cars are often paid for with cash or other funds, bank transfers or the like. The difference in selling a car on ebay is -$0.00- for a no sale and -$125.00- if the sale completes. It's rare for a seller to take Paypal as full payment when selling a car, especially when Paypal payments can be reversed and leave you with no car and no money. 3% is a lot to pay when someone has to be present to do the transaction, no matter if he delivers it or it gets picked up. Bank transfer is probably the most safe and secure way for both buyer and seller.

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I think this seller has a lot of spunk -- hope it works out great for him and the buyer. Look at this latest Q&A https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

Q: I am thinking I would like to consider paying $500,000 would this end the auction.???? Nov-07-08
A: if you place a bid that high you should own it, but thanks for the offer

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I agree. I think the seller is handling it very well, and has a sense of humor without being a wiseguy. He got burned once before by ending an auction early and says he'll never do that again. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif
The guy in the best position to buy the car is the guy with the original front end because he won't have to BUY the front end after he buys the car. If someone else buys it, I hope the front end makes it's way to the car, rather than it resulting in a tug of war.
In any case, it's probably the most interesting auction I"ve ever watched on ebay to date! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/cool.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/cool.gif

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i agree, its been fun watching an undisputed factory racecar go through the gauntlet. ebay has had so many high interest cars result in debacles. its refreshing to see a car go from nearly sliced up to a potential high $ restoration.

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No Question , Hope to see this car restored to it's former glory

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Might be cheaper to have a metal master shop make new sheet metal.

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I was thinking the same thing Charley. OF course, the original front clip would be the perfect ending, but if the new owner can't get it (for one reason or another) I'm sure he'll have one made. Then what happens to the value of the one in FL??????

It's happened with Z-11s. There are restored cars out there and other people who cling onto the original aluminum for them. But we're jumping the gun with theories.
I hope that once a new owner is known, the principal parties will participate in a web forum to keep the rest of us updated on the progress of this super rare car. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

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$84,700

6pm https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif

still half a dozen players at the high end of this auction !!

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O bidder, Ouch! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/naughty.gif