Van Nuys L88 C.O.P.O. or Factory Experimental L88
 

Saw this on the Camaros.net site.

Camaro XP

Looks like its listed on the AutaBuy site and apparently made the cover of their latest issue as a legitimate car. Check your local Sam's Club for this issue.

Auta Buy Listing


My sarcasm will only influence my opinion.

Re: Van Nuys L88 C.O.P.O. or Factory Experimental L88
 

Surely someone here must be aware of this trim tag coding - it is highly unlikely that this is the only car to ever receive this coding if it is legitimate.

It sure seems that either the ultra rare cars are coming out of the woodwork or opportunists with a creative mind are creating these cars that were never known to exist.

Re: Van Nuys L88 C.O.P.O. or Factory Experimental
 

http://www.autabuy.com/Photos/407793...4_Original.jpg



http://www.autabuy.com/Photos/407793...2_Original.jpg

Re: Van Nuys L88 C.O.P.O. or Factory Experimental
 

...and this has 4 wheel disc brakes too?
...What is the story with this car.......https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/rolleyes.gif

Re: Van Nuys L88 C.O.P.O. or Factory Experimental
 

The story is its a very tall tale.

Re: Van Nuys L88 C.O.P.O. or Factory Experimental
 

A few tell tale signs of something not being correct is that the motor was stamped later than the car was built.

Engine: 0212 - Feb 12, 1969
Assembly: 02A - Feb 1-7 1969

Also, I find it very difficult to accept that an experimental car would be produced in the middle of the production year. If the tag was 09/68 or approximately around that time we might be able to accept that GM may have built this as a test mule for the 1969 production year. But to build a test mule in the middle of production year?

What is also very curious is that the motor was built the second week of feb 1969, and yet the car was sold on the start of the 3rd week - feb 21, 1969. To me this all seems very artificial and difficult to accept. It may just be me, but where is the time to have the car transported to the dealer? Being a experimental car wouldn't they have built it for testing and not for retail sale 1 week after being built?

Re: Van Nuys L88 C.O.P.O. or Factory Experimental
 

Who cares about the numbers, that car is just flat out sinister.

Re: Van Nuys L88 C.O.P.O. or Factory Experimental
 

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A few tell tale signs of something not being correct is that the motor was stamped later than the car was built.

Engine: 0212 - Feb 12, 1969
Assembly: 02A - Feb 1-7 1969

Also, I find it very difficult to accept that an experimental car would be produced in the middle of the production year. If the tag was 09/68 or approximately around that time we might be able to accept that GM may have built this as a test mule for the 1969 production year. But to build a test mule in the middle of production year?

What is also very curious is that the motor was built the second week of feb 1969, and yet the car was sold on the start of the 3rd week - feb 21, 1969. To me this all seems very artificial and difficult to accept. It may just be me, but where is the time to have the car transported to the dealer? Being a experimental car wouldn't they have built it for testing and not for retail sale 1 week after being built?

[/ QUOTE ] I think EXP in this case would mean export.

Re: Van Nuys L88 C.O.P.O. or Factory Experimental
 

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A few tell tale signs of something not being correct is that the motor was stamped later than the car was built.

Engine: 0212 - Feb 12, 1969
Assembly: 02A - Feb 1-7 1969

Also, I find it very difficult to accept that an experimental car would be produced in the middle of the production year. If the tag was 09/68 or approximately around that time we might be able to accept that GM may have built this as a test mule for the 1969 production year. But to build a test mule in the middle of production year?

What is also very curious is that the motor was built the second week of feb 1969, and yet the car was sold on the start of the 3rd week - feb 21, 1969. To me this all seems very artificial and difficult to accept. It may just be me, but where is the time to have the car transported to the dealer? Being a experimental car wouldn't they have built it for testing and not for retail sale 1 week after being built?

[/ QUOTE ] I think EXP in this case would mean export.

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If this car was built and tagged for export why would it 1 week later be sold in California? Could an export car be legally registered and inspected in the US at that time?

Re: Van Nuys L88 C.O.P.O. or Factory Experimental
 

Fake car in my opinion

Re: Van Nuys L88 C.O.P.O. or Factory Experimental
 

I believe all the export cars were built at Norwood were they not ?And if an "Experimantal" Camaro was to be built wouldn't Norwood be the plant for that too?
How do you have a nice crisp copy of a POP stamp and no POP ?

I do like the car though https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/smile.gif

Re: Van Nuys L88 C.O.P.O. or Factory Experimental
 

If you google this guy, he was in graduate school at ucla in the 60's. If this is in fact the same guy who bought the car new in 1969. And the protecto plate easily torn off of the 69 books, poor design.

Re: Van Nuys L88 C.O.P.O. or Factory Experimental
 

NOR was the lead plant. They did all the export vehicles and all the development vehicles. And it was closer to the Tech Center....

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NOR was the lead plant. They did all the export vehicles and all the development vehicles. And it was closer to the Tech Center....

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Kurt-

With this being said what is your opinion on this car?

Re: Van Nuys L88 C.O.P.O. or Factory Experimental
 

Isn't that tag fake? Look at the 6 and 9, they look atypical... no?

Re: Van Nuys L88 C.O.P.O. or Factory Experimental
 

Nothing that I see leads me to believe it's real.....

Re: Van Nuys L88 C.O.P.O. or Factory Experimental
 

Beautiful clone... at the right price it would be cool to own!!

Re: Van Nuys L88 C.O.P.O. or Factory Experimental
 

Has anyone seen a second trim tag "Property of general motors corp" (not on this car) but wondering if anyone has seen one.

Re: Van Nuys L88 C.O.P.O. or Factory Experimental
 

The imprint on the POP looks odd too. All the numbers are printed and inked clear as day but the owners info is old and faded looking? Wouldn't it all look the same? Where is the pop if a crisp clear photocopy exists? Overall it's a killer looking car https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/headbang.gif

Re: Van Nuys L88 C.O.P.O. or Factory Experimental
 

I would think that a factory experimental vehicle would have been built at the Warren Tech Center rather than running parts and engineers back and forth across the country. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/confused.gif

Re: Van Nuys L88 C.O.P.O. or Factory Experimental
 

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The imprint on the POP looks odd too. All the numbers are printed and inked clear as day but the owners info is old and faded looking? Wouldn't it all look the same? Where is the pop if a crisp clear photocopy exists? Overall it's a killer looking car https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/headbang.gif

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the owners name, address, etc was done with a Dymo label maker then stuck to the POP, the car info was done with the base metal POP, that would explain why the POP info was "crisper", they may have been slightly "off" with the depth of the characters as well ...

Re: Van Nuys L88 C.O.P.O. or Factory Experimental
 

EXP stands for extra-police. There were 301 of these L88 Camaros made for LAPD in 1969 to try to encourage more young men to join the force. Doors should be white though.
They were thought all destroyed in a freak weather balloon accident in March of 1969. This one must have survived.