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turbojet427 04-23-2011 07:33 PM

Tuned Headers
 
I am consider an old nostelgic pair of headers for my 427, but they are not a tuned header. Has anyone ever compared a equal length tuned header to a non-tuned long tube header? Is there really a difference in performance? Is there any effect on the engine being tuned or not? THANKS!!

Salvatore 04-23-2011 08:11 PM

Re: Tuned Headers
 
Put the headers on. If it is a street car/motor you will never know the difference. Most street headers were really never tuned headers for street use anyhow for the $150.00 we used to buy them for. When they are corked up you will never know. Look how "untuned" cast exhaust manifolds are! Old, vintage Day-2 headers are the most IMO. Very hard to find not all dented up or rusty.

turbojet427 04-23-2011 08:31 PM

Re: Tuned Headers
 
I'm going to run a 12:1 427, big roller, and lots of head work. I don't know if that changes your opinion at all? I guess I should of said that.

PxTx 04-23-2011 09:55 PM

Re: Tuned Headers
 
Best of both worlds: reproduction M/T Super Scavenger headers

olredalert 04-24-2011 12:03 AM

Re: Tuned Headers
 
-----If you wanted a set of headers that really made a difference (and that would only be at high RPM) you would have a qualified header guru make you a set of step-headers that cost a ton of green-backs. If you want the header "mistique" buy any quality set out there after getting real time info about weather they absolutely fit your application. Do your self a favor and dont trust just anybodies say-so on fitment. Make sure!!!.......Bill S

Salvatore 04-24-2011 02:20 AM

Re: Tuned Headers
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: turbojet427</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm going to run a 12:1 427, big roller, and lots of head work. I don't know if that changes your opinion at all? I guess I should of said that. </div></div>If you are going to do all that why bother with old Day-2 style headers? Have Stahl, Lemon, Gebler etc. make you a set. OR that kind of motor work was done in the old days also with store bought headers and the cars ran low 11's camaros, novas, chevelles etc. So, do what you want! Its not rocket science.

jannes_z-28 04-24-2011 11:16 AM

Re: Tuned Headers
 
To really tune headers perfect you should run one or two tubes over to the other sides collector, all depending on firing order and crank design (90° or 180°).

I think this was the major reason why they changed the firing order on ProStock engines, switching #3 and #6 to get a better exhaust flow through the headers.

Jan

Salvatore 04-24-2011 02:16 PM

Re: Tuned Headers
 
Yea, like the sound of the old style 180 degree headers. Almost like a 6 cylinder.

turbojet427 04-24-2011 03:12 PM

Re: Tuned Headers
 
Thanks for all of the information. I'll let everyone know what I'm going to do. Thanks!

owners2 04-25-2011 11:48 PM

Re: Tuned Headers
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pxtx</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Best of both worlds: reproduction M/T Super Scavenger headers </div></div>Where do you find those ?

PxTx 04-26-2011 02:37 AM

Re: Tuned Headers
 
http://www.dragtimes.com/parts/Super-Sca...0368182562.html

I just did a quick search and came up with this add. I don't know the guys behind it, but it seems that are available.

turbojet427 04-26-2011 02:45 AM

Re: Tuned Headers
 
Those do look good. I found them on Ebay.

Salvatore 04-26-2011 02:48 AM

Re: Tuned Headers
 
There you go Matt!

olredalert 04-27-2011 01:37 AM

Re: Tuned Headers
 
----When you call on these ask about header to steering box and steering shaft clearance. If there is a problem you will probably have it there. Also, now that Im thinking straight, ask about starter clearance as well. You may need to wrap the starter to keep the heat out. Nothing worse than going to a cruise and having the starter too hot to crank!!!......Bill S

Dicky 04-27-2011 06:48 AM

Re: Tuned Headers
 
I had a set of M/T Scavengers on my '67 L-78 Chevelle all I can vouch for is when capped thru the exhaust it sounded like ping-pong balls banging around in there. Had the L-88 cam maybe that was why, but sure made a cool sound at idle. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/3gears.gif[/img]

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