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cook_dw 03-14-2017 12:07 AM

Motion L88 Hoods
 
Did the Motion L88 hoods have molded holes for the hood pins or were they drilled upon installation.?.

COPO 03-14-2017 04:24 AM

Drilled.

cook_dw 03-14-2017 01:45 PM

Thanks. Next question.


Did the original hoods have nuts glassed in or did it have wood or ???

JoeC 03-15-2017 04:07 PM

I have a what I believe is a 1st gen Camaro Motion L88 hood
The top and bottom look like the others I have seen

It definitely has some type of metal thread inserts molded in to the fiberglass.
I can see rust on the 3/8-16 threads.
I can't tell how large of an insert is there since all that is visible is the threaded holes with the fiberglass covering the surface.

I would think it is larger then a standard nut , probably a piece of steel flat stock with a threaded hole

cook_dw 03-15-2017 06:50 PM

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Ive posted pics in the past of the hood I have and I am curious of its origin. It has the molded holes for the pins and has the steel inserts molded in the glass. One has actually come loose and Im pretty sure that is what damage the hood. I am working on getting it fixed, painted and will hopefully be installing it on the 67 with the fly eye air cleaner.. I can see what looks like a yellowish white finish on the underside below the black paint.. Pretty sure its not an original Motion hood but definitely old..

bbbentley 03-15-2017 10:06 PM

Pretty cool old piece there D.
I would like to know what hood pins are correct for a Camaro of that period? and where are they located normally? I would think in the holes where the bumpers in the core support are,? The location of those in your L88 hood have me questioning the exact correct location. I have a pr of 1/2 in. and somewhere (can't find) a pr. of 3/8 in. Which , again would be most accurate for a 1st Gen. Camaro? My instincts say 3/8"?

cook_dw 03-16-2017 01:47 AM

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Location on this car (granted not the L88 hood are at the bumpers.. This hood of mine are further inboard. First 2 measurements are the passenger side hole and the other 2 are driver side, followed by the hole dia.

https://www.yenko.net/forum/attachmen...1&d=1487866761

iluv69s 03-16-2017 09:31 AM

Did Joel use L 88 hoods prior to 1970?

cook_dw 03-16-2017 11:27 AM

Now Im do not know the exact history of this car but I think it was ordered along with a 69 Chevelle for a guy in Mexico.. Not sure when he purchased it though..

http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/p...5077187jpg.jpg



EDIT:

Ahh.. Here we go..

http://www.carguychronicles.com/2011...in-motion.html



You also have this 68 with the L88 hood. Again I do not know the history outside of what is mentioned on Mecum site when it was for sale in 2016.

https://cdn1.mecum.com/auctions/fl01...-229810_12.jpg

JoeC 03-16-2017 02:53 PM

yes the L88 hood was used on some 69 Camaro Motion builds

that 68 Motion car had the hood added to replace its first glass hood

anodyne33 03-16-2017 07:49 PM

That Roberto Schnider/Jim Lynch car... Seeing it in person is on my bucket list. If I get to hear it I may just shut up and give up and lay down and die.

whitetop 04-06-2017 07:49 PM

The earliest Motion hoods I have seen from actual cars (from old photos)was made via "Chopper gun" i.e.e sprayed fiberglass and the underside of the hood was very rough like the backside of a new fiberglass bath tub.

The red hood (Cook dw) in the above photos is a prime example of a very early hood made via chopper gun

Later most companies started to mold the underside smooth as most are today.

cook_dw 04-06-2017 08:23 PM

Good to know!!!! Pretty safe to say my hood wasnt an original Motion hood but wish I could pin point roughly the time frame. At least now I know it is an early version. Thank you!

whitetop 04-06-2017 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by cook_dw (Post 1348262)
Good to know!!!! Pretty safe to say my hood wasnt an original Motion hood but wish I could pin point roughly the time frame. At least now I know it is an early version. Thank you!


Nearly all early fiberglass, hoods, scoops and bodies from every company until mid 70's was chopper gun. Mid 70's on up companies started going to hand laid fiberglass.
Hand laid was stronger and thinner

cook_dw 04-07-2017 11:29 AM

Thank you sir!!

JoeC 04-08-2017 07:54 AM

looking at your photos
where you say " molded holes for the pins and has the steel inserts molded in the glass"

I don't think that can be used to ID a hood as the hood pins would be added during installation

the flat round metal plates for the hood pins are very thin

are yours sunk into the fiberglass or did they just paint around them?

normally the round metal plates for the hood pins sit on top of the paint

cook_dw 04-08-2017 11:37 PM

The plates were on top of the paint. I assume you are referring to the plates with 4 screws holding them onto the hood. The plate are in fact very thin. They must have been precise with the drilled as there is no "blow out" from drilling the holes.. Maybe I'm not picking up what you are laying down.. As they say.

RichSchmidt 05-05-2017 03:49 PM

What makes you say that those holes are molded? They look drilled to me.

cook_dw 05-05-2017 03:53 PM

Ill double check tonight but I didnt/dont recall any "blowout" from drilling. Maybe it would have been minor and I just didnt catch it.. :dunno:

motionsid 05-24-2017 03:29 AM

I have an original hood, but it is the stinger style. I could check to see exactly were the holes are and how it was constructed if it would help any.

cook_dw 05-30-2017 12:50 PM

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Finally got around to look at the hood. And yes it was drilled. I didnt catch it at first but you can see i on the underside.


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