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69LM1 04-16-2017 02:45 PM

Thoughts on this stamp
 
Looks like a deck, but stamp looks legit, or am I missing something?

http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/fnoAAO...0b/s-l1600.jpg

67 Impala Z24.

Tag:

http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/E-IAAO...zx/s-l1600.jpg

Thanks in advance for any Impala guru's thoughts.

Rich

69LM1 04-16-2017 02:46 PM

Wow, those came out big.

Ebay ad here:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/302280382782...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

A friend is looking at this car.

Rich

MosportGreen66 04-16-2017 03:13 PM

Rich, I'm not an Impala expert so I cannot add value on the stamp per say but the quality is so poor, I don't think an expert would be able to help... I'd start but requesting non-blurry photos of the pad without paint on it.

Dan

69LM1 04-16-2017 08:23 PM

Thanks, I did ask.
Rich

Jonesy 04-16-2017 10:21 PM

That doesn't look original to me.

69LM1 04-16-2017 11:03 PM

Response-
"That's about as good a picture as I can get. Sorry, but I am not willing to remove the paint. Block was not decked. Trim tag was never removed. Thanks for the inquiry."

Rich

resto4u 04-16-2017 11:36 PM

i like the trim tag. the engine stamp pic is not good enough to tell. The IJ sticks out, could be the photo. And the scratches on the block surface just looks like coarse sand paper, not circular as when the head surface is machined.

luzl78 04-16-2017 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jonesy (Post 1349602)
That doesn't look original to me.

the 4D looks to close to the other characters?

Lynn 04-16-2017 11:38 PM

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Those do not look like original rivets. Originals were punched through and spread out.
Those look like the replacements that have never been punched.

cwc 04-16-2017 11:50 PM

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Here is a for sure real ss427 trim tag

Tarrytown SS427s 04-17-2017 12:53 AM

The trim tag looks original to me compared with other Janesville tags, however I'm pretty sure it was off during paint. I'm not crazy about the engine pad stamp, though it would be difficult make a proper judgement with such a bad picture. However, note the protecto plate imprint on the owners manual. It appears to show an IS engine suffix. While that's not conclusive that the current engine isn't the original, it is definitely worth checking into.

69LM1 04-17-2017 01:26 AM

Tag looks good to me, but I was also concerned about the rivets.

Rich

black69 04-17-2017 04:20 PM

Good catch on that IS from the protecto plate print not matching the current block IJ code. Someone had to physically read the real block code and its assembly date to put that on the protecto plate so I think it had to be a real IS car.

I imagine the auto trans has a VIN stamp, wonder how far off that would look when compared to the block's stamp....no pics of that though...

Jonesy 04-18-2017 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Jonesy (Post 1349602)
That doesn't look original to me.

What I meant was the engine stamping. I don't know enough about 67 impala tags

L78steve 04-18-2017 12:52 AM

Any seller not willing to do whatever is necessary to supply requested info has something to hide. IMO

cook_dw 04-18-2017 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Lynn (Post 1349614)
Those do not look like original rivets. Originals were punched through and spread out.
Those look like the replacements that have never been punched.


FYI
Not all rivets were punched all the way through. Spread out yes.

Lynn 04-18-2017 01:23 PM

Not arguing. Just asking. How would the back side get spread out without punching it through?

cook_dw 04-18-2017 01:50 PM

No worries Lynn. I sent you a pm.

Zman1969 04-18-2017 03:04 PM

Block stamp looks bad to me even in that poor picture

SS427 04-21-2017 01:36 PM

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Here is an original trim tag on a totally unmolested car I found on FB showing original rivets without any of the sealer in the rivet heads. You can even see the ghost image of masking tape that was used to hang the buildsheet off the cowl during assembly. You can clearly see how these looked when installed for anyone wanting to make a comparison. These are slightly different than the reproduction rivets sold today.

cook_dw 04-21-2017 02:07 PM

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Rick, here is the trim tag off the green car and you can see that rivet is not blown through. So either there was a vendor change on the rivets or possible rivet gun change in psi. Assuming the rivet gun was air actuated.


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