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CamarosRus 11-25-2017 10:31 PM

67-69 Camaro Deck Lid / ID ??????
 
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How do I ID the below deck lid as being GM or aftermarket repro ???

Could not find date code as shown in another current deck lid thread

X66 714 11-25-2017 11:08 PM

I'm sure you looked here...Joe

http://www.camaros.org/exterior.shtml#trunklid

CamarosRus 11-26-2017 01:59 AM

Joe, I had not seen the info at Camaros.Org...so thanks

I still need to look/find the date....I "think" this has never
been on a car, as exterior is still black primer.

Nothing in the linked article pointed out how the repro deck lids differ ????

CamarosRus 03-15-2018 08:59 PM

I'm still wanting to determine what I have with my first gen Camaro deck lid ???

Cant see date anywhere

Doesnt have any "hole" like the service replacement.....

Seems like a new/never installed but I cant prove anything !!!!!!

CamarosRus 05-14-2018 01:30 AM

bump...

Has no stamped numbers/letters that I can see

cook_dw 05-14-2018 03:28 AM

Date stamped will be in the area of the link posted previously. More than likely filled from heavy paint. But to narrow it down that lid was used between Jan-Feb to around April-May. Reasoning is it appears to have the TA holes as well as the tabs at the lip of the lid.

Charley Lillard 05-14-2018 01:21 PM

Do the repros have the TA holes ?

cook_dw 05-14-2018 02:58 PM

Yes but I have not seen a repo that has the tabs also. Not saying there isn’t any but I have not seen them.

cook_dw 05-29-2018 05:33 PM

Charley, I realize its been a few weeks but while searching for another topic I ran across this pic in a thread over on CRG. Repo lid without TA holes but without tabs.

http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=3752.0


Also compare the stamping contour in the emblem location.

http://www.protouring.se/files/z28_trunklid.jpg


REPO
http://www.protouring.se/files/oer_trunklid.jpg

CamarosRus 12-27-2023 05:11 AM

Still like to ID this Deck Lid as ORIGINAL GM.....and ask estimated value ???

NOT for sale on this site

Any Experts help me with their thoughts

WHAT.Where are the "TABS" ???

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X66 714 12-27-2023 11:27 AM

Chuck, can you see a date stamp on it anywhere? All GM sheet metal had a date.....Joe

68camaroz28 12-27-2023 11:04 PM

Dang Darrell, I'm not seeing the tabs and know what they should look like. There was a short period of time when the bumps were there but no tabs. I see what seems like a slight bump out or reflection but I'm not sure there are any tabs there????

CamarosRus 12-27-2023 11:39 PM

Joe, When I took pics and first posted, I could NOT FIND/SEE any date stamp....Could it be covered over with primer and white paint ??? Who knows...........

Sure would like a conclusion on what I have and estimated value ?????

Thanks for your time and reply

Too Many Projects 12-28-2023 12:37 AM

The tabs are at the lip where it folds over onto the inner structure. That was how the skin was attached at the back. Here's a pic of mine. You can can barely see 2 tabs peaking out from under the burn blanket. In your original pic, I see the raised area of 2 on yours, but they aren't as defined because of sealer and paint.

My lid is an over the counter replacement from a very early crash repair and has no date stamp either. My lid looks identical to your pics. I did find what may be an inspector stamp of "L" on 1 rib of the bottom side, but that is all.

https://www.yenko.net/forum/cache.ph...2FDSC00609.JPG

hogdaddy 12-28-2023 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by cook_dw (Post 1400985)
Yes but I have not seen a repo that has the tabs also. Not saying there isn’t any but I have not seen them.

I have a repro with smallish tabs (more like a raised bump) unlike my original deck lid that has bigger real tabs.
I also stated previously that all GM deck lids have welded nuts visible inside the bolt holes unless someone can prove me wrong. https://www.yenko.net/forum/showthread.php?t=143742

Too Many Projects 12-28-2023 03:49 PM

When did the repro lids first appear ?

hogdaddy 12-28-2023 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Too Many Projects (Post 1641082)
When did the repro lids first appear ?

I am pretty sure Classic Camaro sold them in the late 80's. I used to have an old catalog somewhere.
The one I have was bought in 1994 from Year One and they rated it #3 quality. It is on the car now and fits decent.

Mitch, why did you weld on your deck lid?

Too Many Projects 12-28-2023 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by hogdaddy (Post 1641088)
I am pretty sure Classic Camaro sold them in the late 80's. I used to have an old catalog somewhere.
The one I have was bought in 1994 from Year One and they rated it #3 quality. It is on the car now and fits decent.

Mitch, why did you weld on your deck lid?

I added an 1/8" rod to the lip to close up the gap to the tail panel.

https://www.yenko.net/forum/cache.ph...2FDSC00606.JPG

I, also, lied about it not having a date code. I forgot about this.. and have no idea what it stands for.

https://www.yenko.net/forum/cache.ph...2FDSC00657.JPG

Mine does not have the extra hole associated with an over the counter lid, as referenced in CRG. It does have an extra slot, assume, for moving the emblem up with a spoiler ?

https://www.yenko.net/forum/cache.ph...2FDSC00656.JPG

Interestingly, it has no mounting holes for the emblem and never did have. Maybe it was an used lid from a Firebird when the car was repaired ? Lord knows, it had plenty of dents on the top side, that would not have been related to a right rear collision.

https://www.yenko.net/forum/cache.ph...2FDSC00659.JPG

hogdaddy 12-28-2023 06:34 PM

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The long-gone nos deck lid that was pictured @ Heartbeat City shows no emblem holes nor any tabs unless hidden.

Too Many Projects 12-28-2023 07:09 PM

But that was an over the counter replacement with the extra slot in the center. Mine doesn't have that.

Zman1969 12-29-2023 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Charley Lillard (Post 1400969)
Do the repros have the TA holes ?

repro lid I had for my 69 bird did not have TA holes I did find a super clean original lid that did so I sold repro lid
I needed the holes

CamarosRus 12-31-2023 12:16 AM

Hogdaddy, My bolt holes (White PAinted Lid) look nothing like yours, where I see a square nut...............I still dont comprehend the "tabs" that people have spoken about....

Any further thoughts on my lid being original GM ??? or absolutely NOT ????????

hogdaddy 12-31-2023 03:17 AM

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Originally Posted by CamarosRus (Post 1641238)
Hogdaddy, My bolt holes (White PAinted Lid) look nothing like yours, where I see a square nut...............I still dont comprehend the "tabs" that people have spoken about....

Any further thoughts on my lid being original GM ??? or absolutely NOT ????????

Here is a pic showing 2 of the 8 tabs along the edge of my GM decklid along the edge in the rear.

Those tabs are not on later deck lids per CRG. CRG shows the many differences in deck lids over the years and they all have date codes.

I believe I may be one of the first to point out that they all had nuts inside the bolt holes or maybe no one realized the aftermarket lids did not. Either way I am almost certain (99.9%) you have an aftermarket deck lid.


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