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scuncio 03-27-2021 04:30 AM

'69 Grand Prix, Factory 428HO / 4-sp, The Ultimate?
 
One family owned and complete with the original POP. Can't remember the last time I saw a GP ordered with manual steering - pretty incredible muscle car here!

Almost comical how much room there is underhood without A/C and P/S.

Link to 1969 428/4-sp GP auction

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/xcMAA...Jf/s-l1600.jpg

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/zBoAA...Jg/s-l1600.jpg

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/0S8AA...Jj/s-l1600.jpg

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/lC8AA...Ji/s-l1600.jpg

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/lK4AA...Kv/s-l1600.jpg

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/IvEAA...PR/s-l1600.jpg

276579P163080

60sStuff 03-27-2021 04:38 AM

Grant ...... look !

What you think ?

I love those Long Branch exhaust manifolds.

fortim 03-27-2021 12:11 PM

Grant - Would the Axle-sp-ord option be 3.90 gears? Really like this car!

Oops - just saw the 3.23 in the ad, my bad.

JRSully 03-27-2021 01:01 PM

A rare platform on which to build a go fast only set up. Surprised it has a a semi dead gear in it

Tracker1 03-27-2021 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by JRSully (Post 1543076)
A rare platform on which to build a go fast only set up. Surprised it has a a semi dead gear in it

My guess is this was a high-speed highway cruiser (no PS and 3.23) that had the speedo pegged often. At least that is what I would like to think :)

PeteLeathersac 03-27-2021 03:52 PM

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Way cool and like everyone else, wish it was black/black also wonder what it was like pre resto?:hmmm:
Note Rear is a 10-bolt also dog caps look awesome but expect factory hubcaps w/ deal are full disc?
:beers:
~ Pete

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grantprix 03-27-2021 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by 60sStuff (Post 1543038)
Grant ...... look !

What you think ?

I love those Long Branch exhaust manifolds.

I did see it on eBay last night. It's a Bad-Ass GP!!

It belongs to a friend of mine, his Dad ordered it new. If I remember correctly, the car spent one year in IL before moving the family to AZ.

Grant

grantprix 03-27-2021 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by fortim (Post 1543069)
Grant - Would the Axle-sp-ord option be 3.90 gears? Really like this car!

Oops - just saw the 3.23 in the ad, my bad.

A 3.55 HD rear would have been standard with the HO 4-speed. The 3.90 would require the M21 close ratio trans, only 22 of those cars were built.

Grant

grantprix 03-27-2021 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Tracker1 (Post 1543092)
My guess is this was a high-speed highway cruiser (no PS and 3.23) that had the speedo pegged often. At least that is what I would like to think :)

That's exactly what my friend Bob said, his Dad wanted the taller gear for highway driving.

grantprix 03-27-2021 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PeteLeathersac (Post 1543097)
'

Way cool and like everyone else, wish it was black/black also wonder what it was like pre resto?:hmmm:
Note Rear is a 10-bolt also dog caps look awesome but expect factory hubcaps w/ deal are full disc?
:beers:
~ Pete

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Car was very solid being in AZ all but most of the first year. They moved to AZ in Oct of 1969. Of course the interior was baked. Just Dashes is the only place that can remold these interior pieces and it was expensive!!

Grant

WILMASBOYL78 03-27-2021 09:27 PM

428 gp...
 
:Can-I-Have-It:

Xplantdad 03-27-2021 10:05 PM

This car is pretty local to me. We've seen it at a bunch of cruises. I think I have pics of it fro Cruise on Central fro a few years ago as well....

grantprix 03-28-2021 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Xplantdad (Post 1543136)
This car is pretty local to me. We've seen it at a bunch of cruises. I think I have pics of it fro Cruise on Central fro a few years ago as well....

Charley has sent me photos of it from the Pavilions before.

LT1vette 03-28-2021 01:40 AM

Hi... I'm thinking it's pretty rare!! In Canada, I've only seen one 4 spd car. Should go for big money. When was the last time you saw a 4 spd for sale?? End of story...!

Xplantdad 03-28-2021 03:46 AM

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Originally Posted by grantprix (Post 1543168)
Charley has sent me photos of it from the Pavilions before.




Yep that makes sense. I most likely have pics from there, too...:headbang:

Charley Lillard 03-28-2021 04:49 AM

Hopefully they didn’t throw away the orig brake booster.

grantprix 03-28-2021 03:53 PM

Restoration Photos
 
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Here's some old photos I have during the restoration...

napa68 03-28-2021 03:54 PM

I REALLY dig that car!

Tim

grantprix 03-28-2021 03:57 PM

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More photos...

olredalert 03-28-2021 05:48 PM

----What a great GP! So very rare to see one ordered this way. Of course, I love the color as my SJ is this color. Burnished Brown for the Chevy guys. Absolutely only my opinion, but Grand Prix's of any color just look better with a vinyl top. A beautiful restoration in every way as well. Grant may back me up on this but if this GP was an automatic it would be worth as much as 20 thou less. I have seen that kind of spread between 4-speeds and autos. I would be very surprised if this GP didn't hit somewhere between $50,000 and $60,000 especially in this spendy period.....Bill S

grantprix 03-28-2021 07:18 PM

Bill... I agree on the price spread between auto & 4-speed HO cars. 986 autos were built compared to 116 total 4-speed cars (94 wide ratio / 22 close ratio w/3.90 gear).

Grant

grantprix 03-28-2021 07:24 PM

The Red '70 SJ 455 4-speed that Charley & I owned keeps going up every time it sells. It's now for sale at $75K!! This '69 HO 4-speed is a far better car, not to mention rarer and more desirable.

https://dragoneclassic.com/currentof...ix-sj-4-speed/

olredalert 03-28-2021 07:41 PM

----Had a chance to buy that red GP from the owner who went crazy from Illinois. Wonder what happened to that guy? Owned a bunch of nice cars but the bank got them all.....Bill S

grantprix 03-28-2021 08:05 PM

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Dave Simpson... Don't know if it's true, but I heard that Reggie bought it when his cars went up for auction. The car still wore my personalized CA plates that I ordered for it. Once again, this car was misrepresented as being a low mileage original.

olredalert 03-29-2021 02:57 PM

----Grant,,,I felt that the mileage looked correct when I saw it back then. How much restoration did you guys do to bring the car to the level we see now?.....Bill S

Charley Lillard 03-29-2021 05:20 PM

Grant painted it and I think repaired rust around the rear window. He also did the interior. I rebuilt the engine.

olredalert 03-29-2021 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Charley Lillard (Post 1543353)
Grant painted it and I think repaired rust around the rear window. He also did the interior. I rebuilt the engine.

----Well,,, You two did a great job, Charley. The car is still looking good.....Bill S

tjs44 03-30-2021 12:22 AM

Olredalert,check your PMs please.Tom


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