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tjs44 11-10-2021 11:42 PM

Pontiac Xram SCCA engine
 
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Not a Chevy but thought members would be interested that Pontiac had a Xram short deck engine for the 69 season.Tom

tjs44 11-10-2021 11:44 PM

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Tracker1 11-11-2021 12:01 AM

Beautiful piece!!! Would have been a street piece if the SCCA hadn't stiffed Pontiac on the production figures at the last minute.

Just a note, your sticker should say Traco, not Tarco

tjs44 11-11-2021 12:43 AM

LOL!Never noticed that.Will have to give the guy hell I got them from!Tom

1crossram 11-11-2021 02:57 AM

Are those carbs the 4295's that were also used on the GM crossram?
No choke plates and dual accelerator pumps.

Lee Stewart 11-11-2021 08:03 AM

Pontiac’s Ram Air V Trans Am that never was

https://www.hagerty.com/media/buying...hat-never-was/

Rfish 11-11-2021 12:07 PM

Nice piece!! That would look nice sitting in my ‘69 T/A :)

Xplantdad 11-11-2021 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lee Stewart (Post 1570732)
Pontiac’s Ram Air V Trans Am that never was

https://www.hagerty.com/media/buying...hat-never-was/


The engine in the car linked above was built by Tom (TJS44) :)

1967Z28 11-11-2021 01:19 PM

Neither Tarco or Traco. It was Al Bartz that built the Firebird engines for SCCA Trans-Am in '69.

tjs44 11-11-2021 01:53 PM

Actually the factory engineering built 25 303 SCCA engines complete with exhaust manifolds and smog pumps carb to pan.They were not allowed to compete with them in the short deck version as they needed 100 to be allowed.
The carbs are the same as the Chevy 302s.If you look at the intake from the top you can see how the carbs nest together.Tom

NorCam 11-11-2021 02:04 PM

That's pretty cool Tom. Now the million dollar question...

What car is it going to go into? :biggthumpup:

tjs44 11-11-2021 02:38 PM

Pic.This car has a 428 RA V in it now

tjs44 11-11-2021 02:40 PM

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Try this again!

iluv69s 11-11-2021 04:32 PM

cool motor !! What's it going on?

I had an NOS RA IV x-ram intake years ago. Ended up in a RA IV Judge if I recall.

But, Seems like the distributor is rarer than the intake !!

NorCam 11-11-2021 04:43 PM

Very nice. That's gonna be wicked. :naughty:

tjs44 11-11-2021 05:41 PM

I have both the RAIV and RAV Xram dizzys.Owed a IV X ram but did not have the dizzy at the time and sold it.Those intakes are pretty much not usable without the dizzys.Tom

Tracker1 11-11-2021 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by tjs44 (Post 1570788)
I have both the RAIV and RAV Xram dizzys.Owed a IV X ram but did not have the dizzy at the time and sold it.Those intakes are pretty much not usable without the dizzys.Tom

You have some of the coolest Pontiac stuff Tom!

Xplantdad 11-11-2021 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Tracker1 (Post 1570794)
You have some of the coolest Pontiac stuff Tom!



Agreed Des!:headbang:

tjs44 11-12-2021 03:37 PM

For the grace of God I ended up a Pontiac nut,if a Chevy I would probably be trying build Z11 stuff!Tom

JoeC 11-13-2021 11:49 AM

another article

https://www.motortrend.com/news/hppp...he-pontiac-v8/

Charley Lillard 11-13-2021 01:40 PM

That is really fricken cool. And I love the "Tarco" screwup. "Missed it by that much"

chevelleheart 11-13-2021 03:25 PM

Really Kool stuff

tjs44 11-13-2021 03:50 PM

I have read much of what is in the article and have read about the 366 short deck engine but have never ran into any of those parts over the years.The short deck block used 2.5 mains against all the others being 3 or 3.25 mains.I have owned and run into many 366 std deck parts and engine.Never talked to anyone that had there hands on the short deck 366.I actually built one with a 303 short deck block,a 57-58 forged crank and custom internals.Tom

1967Z28 11-13-2021 04:09 PM

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Motor Trend article from 1969 on the Firebird and the 303. Also a couple of low resolution pics from the same era.

Lee Stewart 11-13-2021 04:21 PM

Tunnel Port engines all suffer the same malise: The bottom end can't withstand the super high revs (9000) the engines are capable of. Ford had their 302 TP engine in 1968. ALL of them blew up on the race track.

tjs44 11-13-2021 05:54 PM

Lee,I learned how to setup the Xram carb linkage from that picture.Tom

tjs44 12-03-2021 12:53 AM

This little engine at 9.5 CR and small street cam made 435HP,Steve at Westech figure 440,I figured 425 so both were close.Not bad for a block that was designed for 185 HP turbo charged.Tom


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