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70 copo 03-24-2022 10:52 PM

The one, The only 1967 IPC
 
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Goes to Auction at May INDY LOT R335

Rumors say circumstances of the sale might be somehow associated with the "Canadian controversy" discussed here in another thread.

Car however needs little introduction AND has celebrity ownership history:CharleySucks:

https://www.mecum.com/lots/SC0522-50...n-convertible/

cook_dw 03-24-2022 11:52 PM

And just to confirm it’s original paint as the ad states?

70 copo 03-25-2022 02:51 PM

Mr. Lillard can speak directly as to the condition of the car.

Based on my short drive that I took in the car, it appeared to be a time capsule right down to the original Cambell Ewald supplied door decals which were in the exact same positions as photographed at the Speedway in 1967.

1967Z28 03-26-2022 12:19 AM

Years ago it used to say Dan Young Chevrolet on both quarters. I don't know if that was painted on or a decal. Maybe this is the reasoning for asking about original paint?

Charley Lillard 03-26-2022 03:41 AM

1/4’s repainted as well as tail panel and header panel. When they did a Pace Car reunion at Indy they had Dan Young repaint the 1/4's. Was hit in rear while pacing a race. Header panel when someone backed into it. Amazing car.

70 copo 03-26-2022 01:32 PM

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The snow coming down adds a nice touch.

70 copo 03-26-2022 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Charley Lillard (Post 1586391)
1/4’s repainted as well as tail panel and header panel. When they did a Pace Car reunion at Indy they had Dan Young repaint the 1/4's. Was hit in rear while pacing a race. Header panel when someone backed into it. Amazing car.

Thanks Charley.

I always had a nagging question about the legitimacy of the front top header panel due to the emblem placement. The lower header valance under the bumper does look completely original.

70 copo 03-26-2022 01:45 PM

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The other thing I noticed is that someone added door edge guards.

70 copo 03-26-2022 02:45 PM

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Finally, I think when the quarters were repainted they color matched the pin stripe to the length of the body on both sides to the color that they used on the repainted rear quarters. Its more of a match to the Marina Blue on the nose instead of the bright blue striping color that was used at the factory.

70 copo 03-26-2022 07:12 PM

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Race Memories:

Charley Lillard warming the tires at SCR:CharleySucks:

70 copo 03-26-2022 07:23 PM

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Here Chevrolet Brass are soaking it up on a parade lap prior to one of the 2 separate race starts. The guy in the back seat was filming footage for the Chevrolet "Old Brickyard" film.

That's right, this specific car paced the race on two separate days at the start of the race Tuesday May 30 and Wednesday May 31, 1967.

70 copo 03-26-2022 07:26 PM

Here is the Chevrolet "Old Brickyard" film.

Pace car action starts 2 minutes in... .


olredalert 03-26-2022 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by 70 copo (Post 1586443)
Here Chevrolet Brass are soaking it up on a parade lap prior to one of the 2 separate race starts. The guy in the back seat was filming footage for the Chevrolet "Old Brickyard" film.

That's right, this specific car paced the race on two separate days at the start of the race Tuesday May 30 and Wednesday May 31, 1967.

----It looks like someone touched up the Firestone letters with gold paint,,,cool!.....Bill S

70 copo 03-26-2022 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by olredalert (Post 1586452)
----It looks like someone touched up the Firestone letters with gold paint,,,cool!.....Bill S

That’s right!

Firestone and Goodyear were used by the entire commitment fleet on roughly a 50/50 basis. Wide ovals and Speedway’s. The Firestone guys wipped out white crayons and had bragging rights.

70 copo 03-26-2022 09:32 PM

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Behind the scenes raged the tire wars.... and the manufacturer's wars as well. Locking gas caps were needed as well as hood locks. Tampering with the pace car was a real concern to Chevrolet.

70 copo 03-26-2022 09:41 PM

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Same view today.

Charley Lillard 03-27-2022 02:19 AM

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Those were gold letter tires. Here is the unused spare.

TimG 03-27-2022 12:49 PM

That was a great video.

1967Z28 03-27-2022 01:24 PM

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The Firestone racing tires in '67 had gold letters and a gold pinstripe.

70 copo 03-27-2022 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Charley Lillard (Post 1586490)
Those were gold letter tires. Here is the unused spare.


The tires were always a mystery. We assumed that the engineering rebuild order would have specified a tire swap, so when we interviewed Dave Welday he gave us the opinion that the tires were simply crayon marked because the engineering rebuild order would have had a an approved tire substitution for track use directly from Chevrolet engineering-- But as we can see that's exactly what happened going from D all the way to E, the label on the spare shows that the tires were sourced locally from a tire dealer in Speedway Indiana...

Now looking at the comparisons look at the size difference on the sidewall size from #92 to the tires used on the rest of the firestone equipped cars...that's exactly what happened. Thanks Charley:flag:

70 copo 03-27-2022 02:03 PM

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Specifically this tire dealer:flag::

olredalert 03-27-2022 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by 1967Z28 (Post 1586508)
The Firestone racing tires in '67 had gold letters and a gold pinstripe.

----Used to use those Firestone racing tires on my every day driver 69 435hp Corvette coupe. 8 inch slots on the front and 10 inch slots on the back. Was living in Ft Liquerdale at the time and didn't have any weather worries.....Bill S

70 copo 03-27-2022 02:55 PM

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More Pictures...Dave Welday was responsible for the "at track" modifications to the Pace car including Flags and pole holders.

70 copo 03-27-2022 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by 1967Z28 (Post 1586508)
The Firestone racing tires in '67 had gold letters and a gold pinstripe.

YES they did....

70 copo 03-27-2022 03:59 PM

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Looking through the photos here is the source evidence provided to Welday that led to the conclusion that they must have been crayoned.

Here is a pace car upon arrival. It obviously is tab marked to avoid confusion by ZONE personnel AND is pictured here wearing an apparently entirely different set of tires.

Charley Lillard 03-27-2022 04:46 PM

"the label on the spare shows that the tires were sourced locally from a tire dealer in Speedway Indiana... "


Not sure what you mean. The label reads to me like it was shipped from Firestone in Ohio to Firestone tire and Rubber Racing Division in Speedway City Indiana.

70 copo 03-27-2022 05:17 PM

See post 21 above..Just a poor attempt on my part of being a smart A$$

70 copo 03-27-2022 05:20 PM

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More pictures from the month of May during time trials... looks like it is still rolling on its original tires here.

70 copo 03-27-2022 05:31 PM

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Literally everybody who was anybody was in the car. There is Harlen Fengler helping the Jan Cruse out of the car.

70 copo 03-27-2022 05:38 PM

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And this photo also likely shows the car again during the month of May Before the E gold letters were swapped on - still rolling on its original tires.

70 copo 03-27-2022 07:19 PM

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And this image is likely an alternate view seconds later from the other side of the car as pictured in post #29 on page 3... Tires have been already swapped at this point.

msclassiccars 03-28-2022 04:06 PM

Wow, some very cool photos in this thread. Thanks for sharing.

70 copo 03-28-2022 05:17 PM

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More good stuff #92 crashing the banner..

70 copo 03-28-2022 05:40 PM

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Tuesday Start

Pacing the race on day 1

LT1vette 03-28-2022 05:41 PM

White haired passenger looks a lot like Zora Duntov....

70 copo 03-28-2022 05:43 PM

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Tuesday rain out #92 with the top up.

(Credit Getty)

70 copo 03-28-2022 05:45 PM

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Wednesdays Restart

Pacing the race on day 2

70 copo 03-28-2022 05:49 PM

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Victory Lap with AJ Foyt, his wife and the BW trophy aboard.

70 copo 03-28-2022 05:54 PM

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Good photo of Pete Estes in a replica from the commitment fleet.

Stefano 03-28-2022 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by LT1vette (Post 1586615)
White haired passenger looks a lot like Zora Duntov....

Yes it does.


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