Berger Emblems and Plate Frames
 

Ok Guys, Which one of ya was it, somebody fess up! I went today to one of the backwoods salvage yards that has all the old stuff, about 20 Miles outside Grand Rapids, I was looking for Berger Emblems and Plate Frames, after walking the whole yard and finding many cars that had the outline of where an emblem was, I went and talked with the owner who is a friend of mine, he informed me that a guy came in last week, flew in from somewhere east and was going to salvage yards in the area. My friend sold him "about a dozen emblems, and about eight frames", not get this, $60 for all. I didnt have the heart to tell my friend Mark that he sent about $6000 worth of stuff out the door for $60, but I got a lock on any more that come in. So, who was it? I am sure there are many people other then those here on the board who know what time it is with this stuff, I just got a funny feeling someone here is the one quicker to the draw then me as I was talking about this several weeks back. I expect it wont be long before these parts turn up on Ebay, my friend did tell me that they will need rechroming to be perfect, so it may be a little while. Chuck? Marlin? Joe? Come on, Fess up! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
Motown, always a day late and $5940 short! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]

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He actually believed I flew in,and was from the East?

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!!! if someone told me they flew in from the east just to pick up Berger items that would have told me $$$$ and the sale price just went x4

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I heard on the news they caught a couple of guys trying to smuggle Berger lic. plate frames over the Canadian Border???

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You guys are all just a panic! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
Motown [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif[/img]

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Poster: HawaiianCamaro
!!! if someone told me they flew in from the east just to pick up Berger items that would have told me $$$$ and the sale price just went x4

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Yeah, the guy probably would've taken $15 for the lot if mystery buyer hadn't admitted to flying in...

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Are you a story teller or what???

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If you take the price the plate frame just went for on Ebay and multiply it, then take the going rate of the emblems and multiply it, the figure comes out an easy $6000. I would have to guess that whoever bought all these made a circle around Grand Rapids to all the salvage yards and did quite well. Considering Berger has been selling cars in this area since the sixties and maybe earlier, I dont find it odd that the yards that dont scrap all the old stuff would have an abundance of these items. I wish I had gone hunting when I planned to do so right after the plate frame sold on Ebay, then I would have had the pick of the 400 acres of cars in that one particular yard I went to, which I happened to be going to for other parts and thought I would check while I was there. I notice you are from the east, so was it you that made this excursion? I am sure that if the person who did make the trip was reading this they wouldnt like it much that I disclosed the price they paid considering the return it will bring. The stuff is bound to turn up on Ebay soon. We will all just have to wait and see who the seller is. Somebody beat me to it, so what, I'll live. I am sure this type of thing has been done in other areas sooner, like in PA around the area Yenko was?
Motown [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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The only time I've been to MI was to purchase a JL8 two years ago. I bet Charley is behind the missing emblems and frames. Charley are you behind this mystery??? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif[/img]

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Berger Frames are very hard to come by. Dennis Barker had never even seen one so I doubt if many are in the Junk Yards. The Berger Family has been selling Chevys for over 75 Years I think. Scott Settlemire listed the Bergers as one of only about 19 Dealers in the Nation that the Family has been doing it that long.
As for the Value... The Ebay Frames sold for 600.00 because I was high Bidder at 200.00 but was out of town so I put in a 600.00 Bid figuring that somebody might think they were safe at the last Minute and Bid maybe 300.00. Joe Barr did the same thing at the last Minute and put in a Bigger Bid to insure he Won. He told me he never expected to have to pay that much. It just backfired on him. As of Carlisle he still hadn't heard from the Seller. I don't really think the Market is 600.00. I'm probably willing to pay the most as I have what is probably the most significant Camaro that Berger has ever sold. I was willing to go that high to do what I thought was Complete the car. I doubt if anybody else will and not sure I will anymore either. I will just tape a pic of Joe Barr on the Bumper. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif[/img]

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Do you know why Joe sold the Berger wisk broom for 200,yet paid so much more for these frames?
It just seems unusual,if he's so devoted to owning Berger related memorabilia,by paying so much,why sell it.
Just curious.... [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

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Joe Barr here... (I'm stealing my brother's screen name for a second) I agree these plate frames are tough to find, I have been collecting stuff for a long time and have always known these existed, and never really thought I'd ever see a set, let alone a pair for sale. They are correct 69/70 vintage, and as Dennis Barker noted, they are quite rare. I'm sorry it was Charlie I had to beat out for these, as I have met him and he's a cool guy. I will disagree though that these are not worth the 610 i paid, sure i wish they cost me less, but I could say that for just about any of the 100's of "must-have items" I've purchased over the years. Motown, did you take any pictures of these dozen or so 69/70 cars in junkyards with the silhoutte of berger emblems and plate frames on the rear? Are you saying that some outsider from the east flew out there, found this place, and bought dozens of emblems and Berger frames within the past 2 weeks? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] I'm anxious to see if these actually show up on ebay as predicted. I can assure you it won't be camarojoe as the seller. As for you Charlie, a pic of me on your back bumper would be a much better improvement to your car than any 610.00 license plate frame! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif[/img] I got the tracking number for them today, so although the seller won't win any awards for fastest shipping, it does look like i will actually have them in hand within the next week. Maybe the seller was out in Michigan junkyards for the past 2 weeks and didn't get a chance to mail them? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] Hope there's no hard feelings, as someone on this board has told me numerous times, when it comes to ebay, all's fair in love and war! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif[/img]

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I'm fine Joe... Just make sure you bolt them down or they might show up on my Car. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif[/img] Or maybe I'll just make sure you always have to pay a bunch for stuff on Ebay like somebody else said he used to do before he knew it was you. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif[/img] The Whisk Broom now sits on Dennis Barkers desk.

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Mr70, I sell stuff to buy other stuff. My collection increases by selling off doubles, things i can "live without" and stuff i just don't have any proper way to display. Anyone who's ever been to a Supercar Reunion will attest to the fact that I'm more of a collector than a salesman. I openly admit i make a better buyer than a seller, and usually am on the wrong side of the "profit" equation. Besides, who says Charlie has the only Berger wisk broom out there anyhow? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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Very Good Joe,I like that. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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I liked the white one better anyhow. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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Joe like I told you before. All IS fair in love & war. Now sell me that other wisk broom for $200.00!!!

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Berger none the less though

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Very professional--You know--putting that wisk broom on a current newspaper to show everyone the broom is alive and well!!!----EVER KIDNAP ANYBODY JOE???----- [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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I am sure if Dennis is reading this thread he will know exactly what yard I am talking about just north of where he lives in a little known place called Gowen, owned by the retired biker pilot.
Motown [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif[/img]

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Does Berger still use the emblems on the new cars they sell?I've got one that has the sticky stuff on the back and one of the original ones that screw on.Both are new.

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I'm originally from the Belding area and know exactly where the yard is you are talking about. I'm suprised he sold the stuff for only $60. Last time I bought something from him he charged me what a new part should have cost. Problem was I couldn't FIND a new part(was for my 88 Fiero Formula). There's some other old yards around in that area, but most are small and some may be gone now. I haven't been junkyard hunting in a LONG time. Guess I'll have to keep my eyes peeled for Berger emblems and frames.

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They normally do tap the wallett well, but I guess from a common sense point of view, which they have, those emblems and frames are one of the few parts that were in that yard which had no sensible legitimate use. He was surprised anybody would want an old dealer emblem or plate frame.
Motown [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif[/img]

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I've never been fond of the guy as I grew up with him being at many of the car shows I went to with my dad. He still has a bi plane he flys around the area now and again. He's never been one to give anything away when my dad or myself wanted to buy something.

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They only have the By Berger vinyl sticker on almost all their vehicles. I believe only the Camaros and Vettes get the chromed plastic stick on By Berger emblem.