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Jeff H 01-04-2005 08:24 PM

69 Z28 RS JL8 Crossram car listed at BJ auction
 
According to their information this is an all original, unrestored, documented JL8. It will be really interesting(at least to me)to see what this car brings.

69 Z28 RS JL8 Crossram car

wundercluck 01-04-2005 11:31 PM

Re: 69 Z28 RS JL8 Crossram car listed at BJ auction
 
I'm looking forward to seeing this car at Scottsdale also. Sounds like it's probably another Van Nuys JL8 and should run through the auction around mid afternoon Friday? I should be pretty close to the stage then!!
Don

Jeff H 01-04-2005 11:56 PM

Re: 69 Z28 RS JL8 Crossram car listed at BJ auction
 
Yeah, it will be good to see a real, documented car and what interest it brings. Hey Charley, do you know anything about this car?

Charley Lillard 01-05-2005 12:06 AM

Re: 69 Z28 RS JL8 Crossram car listed at BJ auction
 
I have never seen it. I heard it painted black for years and has just been painted the correct blue ?

Jeff H 01-05-2005 12:19 AM

Re: 69 Z28 RS JL8 Crossram car listed at BJ auction
 
Didn't Jim at Heartbeat City have a black RS JL8 car that the tag showed was originally blue? I wonder if it's that car.

firstgenaddict 01-05-2005 12:21 AM

Re: 69 Z28 RS JL8 Crossram car listed at BJ auction
 
The ad says that it is unrestored.
I guess unrestored means different things to different people?

Jeff H 01-05-2005 12:24 AM

Re: 69 Z28 RS JL8 Crossram car listed at BJ auction
 
I guess they consider a repaint "cosmetic detailing".

Stuart Adams 01-05-2005 12:55 AM

Re: 69 Z28 RS JL8 Crossram car listed at BJ auction
 
Does anybody know this car? Charley!

Kurt S 01-05-2005 01:22 AM

Re: 69 Z28 RS JL8 Crossram car listed at BJ auction
 
I don't have any info on the car.
I'd be interested in any #'s from the car and pics of the documentation if anyone looks at it at BJ. Thanks!

Xplantdad 01-05-2005 01:28 AM

Re: 69 Z28 RS JL8 Crossram car listed at BJ auction
 
I'm sure that a few of us that will be there can get you the information...


Bruce

Stuart Adams 01-05-2005 01:30 AM

Re: 69 Z28 RS JL8 Crossram car listed at BJ auction
 
Any info. before the auction would be appreciated.

Xplantdad 01-05-2005 01:32 AM

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I will be there from move in of the auction until move out. I'll see what I can find out https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

Bruce

wundercluck 01-05-2005 02:39 AM

Re: 69 Z28 RS JL8 Crossram car listed at BJ auction
 
I should get there around noon Thursday. I'll try to locate the car and see what info I can get.
Don

MosportGreen66 01-05-2005 02:56 AM

Re: 69 Z28 RS JL8 Crossram car listed at BJ auction
 
Jeff... My Dad was interested in the JL8 Z28 that Jim at Heartbeat had. After careful analysis with Ed Cuneen's help, it was found that the JL8 option was dealer installed and there was question about the authenticity of the P-o-P. It was painted black but originally Le Mans Blue.

I do believe this to be the same car as advertised in BJ ALTHOUGH, Ed noted in his report that the car appeared to have, "an older restoration." It sold shortly after my Dad and Ed inspected the car.

I quote from Ed's report:
"This axle has a cast date of January 3, 1969 and was stamped on January 9, 1969 with a QX code. The axle was manufactured in Michigan. The owner took possession on the car on January 28, 1969, leaving only 19 days for the axle to be shipped to California and installed on the Camaro. The Camaro body was built during the first week in November, which would mean that the body would have to be stored in Los Angles during November and December awaiting the axle to arrive. This is an unlikey scenario. I know of no other JL8 cars built this early in 1969. However, axle assemblies became available in January 1969."

P-o-P Information:
"Frank DiHartce, a previous owner, believes this car was purchased from FairwayChevrolet in Sacramento, California. The Protect-o-Plate does not show a dealer name. It appears that a dealer rubber stamp impression has been rubbed off the warranty card. The POP shows a sales date of January 28, 1969. The glue was on the card, but the glue attaching the plate was elastic and could be strected when lifting the plate edge away from the card."

427TJ 01-05-2005 03:04 AM

Re: 69 Z28 RS JL8 Crossram car listed at BJ auction
 
If this JL8 RS Z 'checks out' okay then I predict it'll pass the 100K mark easily. Big if.

There, I made my prediction. Anyone else wanna' stir the pot? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/wink.gif

Stuart Adams 01-05-2005 03:14 AM

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BJ auction - the place you buy non legit cars for legit prices - isn't America great. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/flag.gif

Jeff H 01-05-2005 04:14 AM

Re: 69 Z28 RS JL8 Crossram car listed at BJ auction
 
Dan, I remember Jim's car being a Nov or Dec car dated before the JL8 became available and I wondered about that. I know there were Chevrolet memo's that were sent out saying the JL8 option was not available yet. But I'm not sure what the time frames were. This car at BJ is probably the car Jim had. I don't know what to make of it. I was hoping a legit and authentic car would go across the auction block but this one sounds questionable.

Steve Shauger 01-05-2005 05:03 AM

Re: 69 Z28 RS JL8 Crossram car listed at BJ auction
 
This car was owned by Jim S. and has been recently painted the correct Lemans Blue. And the car is probably the earliest known JL8. Tony K. owns it now, thats all I know.

MosportGreen66 01-05-2005 05:23 AM

Re: 69 Z28 RS JL8 Crossram car listed at BJ auction
 
Something is not correct about this car.

I am not going to say anything else public about this car. I do not know Tony and personally have not seen his car. I do know what Mr. Cuneen stated about the car as I have a copy of his report of findings. If anyone is interested in this car please contact me and I will forward any desired information. Thanks.

-Dan

Steve Shauger 01-05-2005 05:40 AM

Re: 69 Z28 RS JL8 Crossram car listed at BJ auction
 
My comment was not meant to validate the car. I have not inspected the car or the documentation. I will say it has been a known car for over ten years.

Kurt S 01-05-2005 05:48 AM

Re: 69 Z28 RS JL8 Crossram car listed at BJ auction
 
A Nov or Dec JL8? I don't even have to look at the car. I don't think so.....

01-05-2005 06:07 PM

Re: 69 Z28 RS JL8 Crossram car listed at BJ auction
 
Whatever happened to the black RS/Z28 that Ed Ulyate(sp?) owned in the early 1990's? It was listed in Hemmings and sold at B/J as a cross ram JL8 car with a ton of options (endura, deluxe, blue light, gauges, etc) It had a legit axle in it and everything was dated correctly.

mrrec 01-05-2005 07:40 PM

Re: 69 Z28 RS JL8 Crossram car listed at BJ auctio
 
Let me get this straight: An original, unrestored car that was repainted black, then again back to blue??!!! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif

Original: as it left the factory
Unrestored: not messed with since above!!

I can't wait to see this one. Maybe it will generate interest in my Lemans Blue 69Z I'll have on the turntable. Let's see, I'll call it original, unrestored...yeah, that'll work. I just painted it, detailed it, replaced a bunch of parts............

Dave

Late BrakeU2 01-05-2005 10:01 PM

Re: 69 Z28 RS JL8 Crossram car listed at BJ auctio
 
"IF" this is the same car that Jim was selling I was interested in it as well.It did not have the crossram at that time,and the POP had an owners name of I believe Alvarez.It was delivered to a Sacramento area dealer and circa 1972 blue cali plates- 238 TVC

Charley Lillard 01-06-2005 04:18 AM

Re: 69 Z28 RS JL8 Crossram car listed at BJ auction
 
"believes this car was purchased from FairwayChevrolet in Sacramento"

I have lived in the Sacramento area all my life and I can only think of John Geere, Lew Williams and Chase Chevrolet. I don't recall Fairway.

resto4u 01-06-2005 05:16 AM

Re: 69 Z28 RS JL8 Crossram car listed at BJ auction
 
Fairway Chev, 222 E. San Bruno, San Bruno,Ca. 94066

70 copo 01-29-2005 02:24 AM

Re: 69 Z28 RS JL8 Crossram car listed at BJ auction
 
$100K https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/confused.gif That was all she could bring?

Looked like a nice car for the money. when you factor in the that it was an RS.... WOW. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/rolleyes.gif

Phil

Late BrakeU2 01-29-2005 02:46 AM

Re: 69 Z28 RS JL8 Crossram car listed at BJ auction
 
Could be the harbinger for the future sorry to say.BJ set the tone for the market last year with those cobbled cars.There was a beautiful 69 L78 with no docs that could only fetch 57k,and while there will be more cars coming through I think those loud pops I heard after the gavel struck on that xram was some collectors sphincters snapping shut-

Belair62 01-29-2005 02:54 AM

Re: 69 Z28 RS JL8 Crossram car listed at BJ auction
 
Which L78 did you see

Late BrakeU2 01-29-2005 03:02 AM

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It was hugger,white top,white houndstooth,hockey stripe.. don't know if it had paper-gotta get Tivo one of these years!

Jeff H 01-29-2005 03:13 AM

Re: 69 Z28 RS JL8 Crossram car listed at BJ auction
 
That L78 was really a 396/350 car. It was listed wrong.

budnate 01-29-2005 04:27 AM

Re: 69 Z28 RS JL8 Crossram car listed at BJ auction
 
Jeff what was wrong with the 69 Hugger cross ram car that just went for 79K????

Belair62 01-29-2005 05:17 AM

Re: 69 Z28 RS JL8 Crossram car listed at BJ auction
 
No paper is what they are saying....they look nice on TV but those guys there are smoking them over pretty good...!! I saw the Garnet Camaro go thru..it said L78....but it was a 350 horse car..

MGINLA 01-29-2005 05:32 AM

Re: 69 Z28 RS JL8 Crossram car listed at BJ auction
 
Prices seem okay. Per the updates on the BJ website.

Lot 707 1969 Z28 Hugger Orange $85,320 + 8% commission.
Lot 719 1969 Pace Car 350 Automatic $66,960 + commission.

Not sure if the Z28 had a crossram or not.

Lots more to go!

Lot 692 1969 Z28 with JL8 and crossram does not show up as sold on their site?? I wonder why?

budnate 01-29-2005 05:32 AM

Re: 69 Z28 RS JL8 Crossram car listed at BJ auction
 
aahhhh missed that...must have been when I was yelling at the kids to be quite...lol.

Belair62 01-29-2005 05:37 AM

Re: 69 Z28 RS JL8 Crossram car listed at BJ auction
 
White COPO....187k + commish !

DarrenX33 01-29-2005 05:38 AM

Re: 69 Z28 RS JL8 Crossram car listed at BJ auction
 
I can't remember. Did that car (White COPO) still have the original drivetrain??

Belair62 01-29-2005 05:40 AM

Re: 69 Z28 RS JL8 Crossram car listed at BJ auction
 
I don't think so...but I'm not sure.

budnate 01-29-2005 05:45 AM

Re: 69 Z28 RS JL8 Crossram car listed at BJ auction
 
any other dork register to guess on what they go for...???? I figured the Hemi car at 277k...

Chris396 01-29-2005 05:47 AM

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A bucket seat Hemi probably would have brought more.


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