1970 LS6 Chevelle "Pilot Car"
 

I'm listing my Forest Green LS6 for sale. The car is completely matching and documented. It has 2 buildsheets, a POP, and other docs. The car is Forest Green, saddle interior and white stripes. The car is nicely optioned with buckets, CI, gauges, p/s, tilt, 3:31 posi, cushion grip wheel, tinted glass, rear defogger, am/fm stero, automatic, remote mirror, door guards, bumper guards, mats, and light mointoring.

The car is a "pilot" car and to my knowledge is the only LS6 documented as such. The car was originally a zone demo, and the zone rep that ordered the car is available.

The car is completely presentable as is, with no rust and nice paint. It could use a freshening up if more than local or Super Chevy shows are attended. The car has never been "spray can" detailed underneath and as such retains most paint markings. It is a very nice better than average driver car, with a minimal frame off restoration needed to have a top notch car.

The price is $85,000. Please call 804-314-7732 to discuss. Pictures available to serious interested parties. I'm listing the car to pursue other areas of interest.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...%20car/ls6.jpg

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greg, sounds like a beauty....,what is a pilot car though?

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just found out....very very nice https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif

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It means it was only "flown" on weekends!!!

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What a neat and very unique car Greg has here. I have spoken to Greg in the past about his LS6 and it is truly significant and historical in the chronicles of these awesome automobiles.

What will your next car be?

Good luck,
Sam

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Greg..I have some pics in my files...I will post a few a bit later..

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Bob, thanks for posting the pics..I have had a lot of people asking to see pics of the buildsheets and other docs, so I'll get them posted this weekend. The car was cosmetically redone (engine/trans, interior, and paint) in 1995. It has 83k miles, which I believe are original. Please email or call with further questions.

Thanks

GSC

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Can somone help me "re-size" a fee pics to post them here? I have a few pics of the documentation, but they are larger than than the maximum size allowed to post.

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Greg,

Send them to me. [email protected]

Sam

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Greg asked me to list these photos of his documentation (thanks to Bruce, aka Xplantdad, for getting me smart on doing this!!):

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...812/fullbs.jpg

Sam

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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6.../partialbs.jpg

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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...12/goodpop.jpg

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Thank you Sam

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Who wrote pilot job on the sheets? What does it say after "It'll need....?"

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I would assume someone at the plant wrote "pilot job". It says "It'll need wings too!" This was written on the one buildsheet which was found under the drivers side carpet in 1995. The darker area of the sheet (where the writing is) was on the trans tunnel and the sound deadener and heat darkened this area of the sheet. Also found was a builsheet for an El Camino that was a few units away from mine. I would assume a factory worker wrote the comment and also circled the RPO "LS6" and "Pilot Job"

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Greg,
Forgive my ignorance, but I'm trying to get educated............. I think I noticed a date of 12-09 on the build sheet. Didn't they build any production LS6s before December?


Thanks
Verne

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Verne,

The LS6 was slated for a mid year introduction, and the generally accepted date was 1-70. However production actually was underway in Dec of '69 with cars being sold. The L78 was being phased out and LS6 production has been generally accepted to have begun after that. All of the data I have so far, along with what is accepted by the majority of Chevelle "gurus" says LS6 production didn't begin unitl Dec '69. I have seen late L78's (which all seem to be built at Baltimore from 11c-12B)as late as 12-8. There were certainly cars built with the LS6 engine in Nov. ,but as of yet they were pre-production or prototypes. These cars (the Oct/Nov. prototypes or pre-production cars) have yet to surface. This car is certainly a "production pilot," as it was delivered and eventually sold through retail channels. Jim Mattison emailed a nice letter discussing the LS6 "pilot" program. I'll be happy to post if anyone wants to read. Quite an education. This car is the earliest known car where the paperwork has been publiclly known.

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Greg,
Thanks for the education. I figured that must have been the case. I've only been lucky enough to document one pilot car, a '64 Impala SS. It did not have any features which were introduced mid-year - it was strictly a pre-production "test assembly", as most pilot cars are. It's body build date is 6D, way ahead of standard production which began around 8D. It actually has some '63 model year parts on it, such as carb, wiper motor, steering box and tach harness. It also has a couple prototype pieces of trim under the taillights that never made it into production. Neat stuff! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/laugh.gif Unfortunately, we haven't dug deep enough in it yet to find a build sheet.

Your Chevelle is one rare puppy. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif

Verne

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Verne,

Unfortunatly unlike the Mopar guys, who have long studied "pilot cars" (there is even an article in one of the current mags) Chevrolet "pilots" are un-studied. It would be neat to see if any other "pilot" cars (regardless of carline) can be found. Were you able to uncover any paperwork (engineering especially) pertaining to your Impala? I often wonder if engineering or other paperwork can be found on this LS6. I am sure since it was known by the plant to be a "pilot," that additional engineering data existed..would be a neat find and certainly would help with LS6 knowledge.

GSC

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Greg,
The Impala in question is owned by one of our local club members here in NJ. I agree that the subject of Chevy pilot cars is incredibly interesting, and important, but it is also hardly understood or documented at all, unfortunately. I've already demonstrated my lack of knowledge in the era of your Chevelle. For the last 23 years I've been poking into '58-'64 fullsized Chevys, and this '64 is the first and only true pilot car I've heard of. There are some people on the Corvette side of the Chevy hobby who are fairly well versed in pilot cars. I've learned a little more from one of the most knowledgable of them. For instance, the pre-production pilot cars would include at least one of each body style, to check the body panel fit and proper set-up of the jig used to hold it all together for welding - and of course to establish assembly procedures. They were also typically highly optioned, since the installation procedure of all available options had to be established as well. Those cars were not pre-assigned with VIN numbers. Of the group of them, the ones that met "spec" after completion and inspection, and could be sold, were assigned the first few VINs (off line, after they were done). This '64 is body #2 of that style (I guess #1 didn't turn out so well??), and it was assigned VIN 100006. (the first car was 100001).
I agree with you that there certainly must have been more engineering notes, directives, memos, etc regarding these cars. In the case of your car, with it's mid year introduction of special equipment, there certainly had to be some engineering documents to specifically direct the building of that car, with special instructions, notes or reports generated that eventually ended up in a revised assembly manual covering that RPO. I just don't know how we're going to get lucky enough to dig them out of the black hole that exists within Chevrolet now.

Didn't mean to wander off the topic of your car. It's one of my all-time favorite color combinations too. If I owned that car, I'd never, ever sell it......

Verne

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Theres another one of those pilot cars in Mass not much more that 8 miles from the dealership noted on the above POP. LS6 Convertible to boot. Been sitting in a friend of my Brothers garage for the past 20 years of so. He picked it up at the peak of the gas crisis in 76 for a song. The thing is loaded with just about every option one could put on a car. It was blue with white stripes and a black interior, and was some kind of demonstrator used by dealerships in the area to show people what could be ordered on the car. My understanding is that the owner has a stack of original paperwork for the car and that it is a VERY early build car. I haven't actually seen it for years as the owner doesn't drive it anymore.

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Mark,is this Mike S. car? If it is it is an ls5 car,very loaded and neat!

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First name is Mike last name does begin with S, graduated high school in 78 now an EMT in Boston. Same guy?

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That is the one.

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I'd love to see the Mattison letter if you'd post it. I bet many would enjoy the history education.

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I'll get the letter posted in the next couple of days. It is pretty interesting.

GSC

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Letter...

https://www.yenko.net/attachments/145272-letter.JPG

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thanks for posting..

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Very interesting post--the matter of pilot cars is certainly not heavily discussed.

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"that they had hand built engines.."

Maybe that is what the pin punch stamped "P" is on the front of the cylinder head. Any chance you could post a picture of that? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif
Rick

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Very interesting letter. Thanks for posting.

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I'll see if I can find the "P" picture. It is a letter "P" with a cresent under it punched with a punch into the endface of the drivers side cylinder head.

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Here is the picture..Sorry for the quality https://www.yenko.net/attachments/593...0mark_0002.jpg

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Car has been sold. thanks SYC

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https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif
Glad to hear it made it to it's new home. I am sure he will enjoy the car.
Rick

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Car has been sold. thanks SYC

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Cool... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/flag.gif

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Greg,

Congrats and my condolences...I hope you did well with it and that it went to a good home.

Best,

Morris

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Thanks Morris,

Yes on both accounts...

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Great to hear; what's the next car??