Creed Chevy-Olds ---- Collingwood Ontario
 

My W-31 was delivered to this dealer originally. I can't find any info out on them, so I assume that they are long gone. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif Anyone have any info ?

Re: Creed Chevy-Olds ---- Collingwood Ontario
 

I was born in Collingwood and moved away as a child but spent many summers there w/ my G'folks and cousins. . I recall the Chevy/Olds Dealer as Lockhart Motors and although haven't been back for years, expect they're still operating? ~ Pete

Re: Creed Chevy-Olds ---- Collingwood Ontario
 

Can't seem to find a website but here's some contact info. if you want to give them a try? . Good luck! ~ Pete

Lockhart Motor Sales Limited
505 Hume Street
Collingwood, Ontario
L9Y 4H9

Phone: 705-445-2222 | Fax: 705-445-7661

Re: Creed Chevy-Olds ---- Collingwood Ontario
 

THANKS Pete ! That's a helluva good start. What years do you remember it as being Lockhart Motor Sales ?

Re: Creed Chevy-Olds ---- Collingwood Ontario
 

In the early 70's I recall Lockhart Motors was downtown near the shipyards....today's location is out near the Hopsital. . I'll ask my cousin who grew up in Collingwood as I speak to him pretty well every week comparing legal notes w/ our own wife-split adventures. . A fun note to this is he's suing his ex for half the value of her fake breasts! . Doubt if it'll go anywhere but he's claiming them as shared assets of marriage and having as much fun as a fella can in this situation? . How'd you come up w/ the Creed thing to start with....the GM Historical Service documents? ~ Pete

Re: Creed Chevy-Olds ---- Collingwood Ontario
 

YEP - GM Historical Services. I'll havta dig up the dealer code.

Maybe he can just get one boob back ?? Sounds fair to me ! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif

Re: Creed Chevy-Olds ---- Collingwood Ontario
 

Casey
You talking about the green W-31. I thought that car was sold new in Alberta!

Paul Martin

Re: Creed Chevy-Olds ---- Collingwood Ontario
 

YEP !

Here's what I found out .... quite by accident, really. Back in '92 when Gene got the GM of Canada paperwork originally, it did not include dealer info in the packet and number of cars in that body style - i.e 33277 shipped to Canada. (Incidentally, there were only 641 TOTAL F85's shipped to Canada in 1970 -- regardless of powertrain...) Anyway ..... I decided to pay the $45 and get the more up to date format that George uses. Not expecting any surprises, just a "fresh" look on the docs. So in comes the docs last week, and lo-and-behold, there is this strange dealer referenced. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/confused.gif I called Gene to see if I misunderstood him somehow when I bought the car, because, I too thought that it came out of Alberta. Gene's wife said that you two were down at B-J. She gave me your cell number, so if you saw a strange *734* area code pop up while you were sipping champagne, it was me ! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif I called George back and asked if there could have been a mistake somehow, and he was pretty emphatic that it was not an error. So, I now have this interesting curve ball thrown at me about the lineage of the green car. I still haven't followed up with Gene, but I will this week. Anyhoo - that's the story.

Re: Creed Chevy-Olds ---- Collingwood Ontario
 

I spoke w/ my Dad last night and all he remembers is Lockhart Motors in C'Wood too. . His though was maybe the Lockhart name was retained but Creed as the registered owners of the dealer code hence the GM info? . Who knows....like I said I'll check w/ my cousin and see what he remembers also try and get an update on the Boob case? He did tell the laywer he'd accept one boob and even offered to take the worst of the two as he says one is a bit of a botch job....looks like a tennis ball in an old sock??

It's interesting your 641 total of F85's coming into Canada. Do you know if this includes all "77" sedan cars including the 442 posts or are the 442's in addition to this number? I'm a sucker for post cars and used to have a '70 442 post, original W25 car also had a '69 442 post car before that one. I swapped the '70 car away for some snowmobile racing parts and turned the '69 into a stock car back in the early 80's. . The '69 is still sitting at the back of a buddy's farm....roll cage, original rear axle, bent 442 bumper, trim tag and all. . Just last week I thought I'd found the remains of my '70 but I think it's a different car? . Haven't dug up the old numbers yet but the one I was looking at is stripped but is a '70 442 post (4477) and has the trim tag still on it. . I'll have to find out who owns it although would take a major resto to save it. . There's a '68 442 hardtop in a backyard here in town that my 12 year old spotted when he was 9 or 10....the guy claims he's the original owner too but it's really a parts car now and way too rusty to buy at his price.

Happy trails! ~ Pete

Re: Creed Chevy-Olds ---- Collingwood Ontario
 

Thanks for the followup Pete ! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

No, that does not include other post cars, just F85's -- 6 cylinders, 350-2V's, 350/310's, and W-31's.

Re: Creed Chevy-Olds ---- Collingwood Ontario
 

Casey
Talked to Gene about this last night and he says he was always under the impression that the car was sold new in Olds Alberta. Sounds to me like a dealer transfer thing. I bought a new 442 in 1977 in Winnipeg and the car had been transfered from a small dealer in Kenora Ontario who could not move it. Lots of "Garages" in small towns had franchise agreements and sold small quantities of cars,kept a dozen in stock and ordered the rest. The car may have been ordered by Creed,delivered there but then transferred to Alberta. Get Grishom from CSI on the case.

Paul

Re: Creed Chevy-Olds ---- Collingwood Ontario
 

Hey, a good ol' dealer trade....excellent thought! . Wonder if someone got to drive this baby West? . I remember back in my dealership days we had a few old lads who would do the runs w/ dealer trade cars....we called 'em the Geritol gang! . In the pre speed-sensor days and depending on how far of a run it was, often there was a gentleman's agreement with the dealer on the other end that the speedo would be disconnected for the trips. . This would drive the Geritol boys crazy as they had no idea what speed they were going and couldn't complain outloud about this kind of thing. ~ Pete

Re: Creed Chevy-Olds ---- Collingwood Ontario
 

The Geritol Gang is still active. Lots of old guys drive cars around for dealers just to put in time and make an extra buck or two. It looks like I'll be retiring this year. Perhaps.............naw. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/smile.gif

Re: Creed Chevy-Olds ---- Collingwood Ontario
 

I did a similar thing in the 70's when the GM dealer in CornerBrook Nfld owned the Tilden Rent-A-Car franchise. Usually picked up a new 72 (Biscayne or Impala) and delivered it to St. John's-450 miles on a friday,then picked up an out of service vehicle on Sunday and brought it back to CornerBrook. The Friday drive was always nice-new car. sunday I usually got a crapped out pickup that had been on a construction site for 6 months and should have been scrapped. The run paid me a few bucks and Tilden covered the expenses. I got home on weekends to visit the girlfriend.

Paul

Re: Creed Chevy-Olds ---- Collingwood Ontario
 

Casey, sorry it's been a bit but last night I asked my cousin who grew up in Collingwood about the Creed Motors thing. . No Creed Motors that he can recall but he's gonna' ask around a bit and I'll get back if anything comes up. . His court fight for half the value of his ex's fake boobs is going better. . The lawyer has suggested he accept the family Dodge Dakota truck as fair trade since the boob's value has greatly diminished being they're soon due for replacement? . Not sure if it's from age or wear and tear....luckily the Dakota truck has held up much better! .
Back to the cars, since you've already got the GM Canada Vintage Services documents, send a PM to Geo. Zapora "vintagegz" as he's joined on here in the last few weeks, probably who documented your car already and may have the info to recheck the Creed thing? . Good luck! ~ Pete