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mockingbird812 03-19-2006 09:03 AM

Interesting topic on TC: Baltimore '69 Chevelles
 
A notion has been proposed over at Team Chevelle:

"L" code = SS?

Baltimore built '69 Chevelles with an "L" on the bottom line of the trim tag are showing a trend of indicating an SS car. Still a long way from proven, but interesting nonetheless. They are looking for both documented SS and non SS Chevelles (Malibus and 300s). Dale MacIntosh has a decent collection of trim tags at "Chevelle Stuff" .? Kansas built '69 Chevelles may have a similar trend, but Baltimore is being looked into for now. Thoughts?

mockingbird812 03-19-2006 07:30 PM

Re: Interesting topic on TC: Baltimore '69 Chevelles
 
Calling all '69 'velle lovers (with an opinion) https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/naughty.gif

TDW 03-19-2006 08:47 PM

Re: Interesting topic on TC: Baltimore '69 Chevelles
 
My Bal built 69 SS L78 has the "L".

Mr. T 03-19-2006 08:52 PM

Re: Interesting topic on TC: Baltimore '69 Chevel
 
My Kansas built 69 SS El'Camino has the "L"

Stefano 03-19-2006 09:39 PM

Re: Interesting topic on TC: Baltimore '69 Chevel
 
I have always used that as an indicator, just didn't know if it was absolute or not.

mockingbird812 03-20-2006 12:43 AM

Re: Interesting topic on TC: Baltimore '69 Chevel
 
Those of you with Baltimore cars (Kansas will be done later on) that wish to share your trim tags and whether your car is a confirmed SS or non-SS, chime in on the Team Chevelle. BTW, you COPO guys would be a great source of documented non-SS 'velles.

Stefano: where had you heard about the significance of the "L" on Baltimore cars?

mockingbird812 03-20-2006 01:32 AM

Re: Interesting topic on TC: Baltimore '69 Chevel
 
Here is an update from TC as of today:

UPDATE: hey all, the latest numbers are:
3667-12, 3637-28, 3680-2, Unknown-7, 300 series-3 Total-52,
Known SS-18, Known Non-SS-7, Unknown-27
L/Code-10, B L/Code-25, M/code-5, B M/Code-7, BFL/Code-3, No#-2
Trans- Auto-8, Manual-11, Unknown-33
Seat- Bench-26, Bucket-13, Unknown-13

More info is out there and slowly coming in. An assumtion that can be made is that the majority are B L/code and maybe real SS's because they are saved because of that fact. Although there could be some cars that are cloned, all known SS cars on the list have an L/code on the tag and all known Non-SS cars do not have the L/code they have M or B M/code.

Thanks to all for continued input and as you can see it is very interesting when you begin to put it together. more to come......


Stefano 03-20-2006 02:04 AM

Re: Interesting topic on TC: Baltimore '69 Chevel
 
Just experience, similar to the stripe code on some 70 SS Chevelles.

chads454Ls6 03-20-2006 04:45 AM

Re: Interesting topic on TC: Baltimore '69 Chevel
 
SS-l78 showed it to me on kansas built 69 and 70 chevelle ss cars. When he first told me i thought he was on drugs and then we walked around the mecum auction and every ss chevelle that was built at kansas had an L.The malibu cars did not.

Alss 03-20-2006 04:51 AM

Re: Interesting topic on TC: Baltimore '69 Chevel
 
My Balt Malibu has no "L" https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/naughty.gif

ALbert

mockingbird812 03-20-2006 05:12 AM

Re: Interesting topic on TC: Baltimore '69 Chevel
 
Thanks for that input Mr."COPO" er um ALbert.

Charley Lillard 03-20-2006 05:35 AM

Re: Interesting topic on TC: Baltimore '69 Chevel
 
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ssl78 03-20-2006 05:47 AM

Re: Interesting topic on TC: Baltimore '69 Chevel
 
I have been observing The L on Kansas built SS cars for about 3 years and was always right on. I had seen some cars that were said to be SS cars with no L but when checking the column joint they were always welded on not bolted like the SS had. I also checked out Baltimore cars and it didnt seem to always have the L. In my area there is 10 Kansas cars to every Baltimore car so I really do not have a opinion on that one. I was once told the L didnt stand for an SS it had something to do with something that was done special since a big block was going to be put in it.

mockingbird812 03-20-2006 07:04 AM

Re: Interesting topic on TC: Baltimore '69 Chevel
 
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What kind of pictures would you like to see? I sure like your signs - got my attention.

mockingbird812 03-20-2006 07:30 AM

Re: Interesting topic on TC: Baltimore '69 Chevel
 
How 'bout this Charley....

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...2tsTErp_ph.jpg

This is the tag from a documented SS. The "L" in discussion is on the bottom line of the stamped information as in the following string: B L180612. The "8" under the build date is also under scrutinization.

mockingbird812 04-07-2006 06:29 PM

Re: Interesting topic on TC: Baltimore '69 Chevel
 
Another update (as of 5 April) from Andy (SS69Chevelle) over at Team Chevelle :

Latest Update: I will try to keep it short but know alot of people are interested:
Total Samples: 90ish (some missing needed info to help)
Codes: B/number-1, B M/number-20, B L/number-41, M/number-6, L/number-15, BFL-4, No letters-3
Styles: 3427-2, 3537-2, 3637-57, 3667-20, 3669-1, 3680-2, UNK-6.
Trim: 751-1, 752-1, 753-4, 755-20, 756-20, 764-1, 765-2, 779-1, 782-1, 786-2, 787-1, 788-2, 791-8, 795-7, 796-4.
Known SS-21, Known non-SS-8, Special order-8
Known Trans: Manual-37, Auto-18
Bench with manual-16, Bucket with manual-19
Bench with auto-8, Bucket with auto-9
Notes: Baltimore chevelle production 1969-103,327.

<font color="blue">All known SS tags have B L or L/number.
All known NON-SS tags have B M/M or no letters (includes special orders)
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Sample is just under .1% of the chevelles produced at Baltimore plant.

Nothing positive yet to define what the letters mean or whether they are SS related to body construction. Could have many more samples but not all the trim tag data was given or available. This list is only as accurate as the data provided, seat types are based on the known trim number provided. If anyone has additional tags or numbers they would like to add to this research please PM me or send an e-mail. No Tag numbers are given out unless specifically approved by the current owner once I have them. Thanks for the help and any future support. Andy


Andy can be contacted at: [email protected]

Thanks,


mockingbird812 04-08-2006 12:41 AM

Re: Interesting topic on TC: Baltimore '69 Chevel
 
Alright, here is a challenge. Show me a trim tag from a '69 Baltimore built Chevelle that does NOT follow the trend in the previous posting. Specifically.....

<font color="blue">All known SS tags have B L or L/number.
All known NON-SS tags have B M/M or no letters (includes special orders)
</font>


Keith Tedford 04-08-2006 06:22 AM

Re: Interesting topic on TC: Baltimore '69 Chevel
 
Our GM documented Baltimore '69 SS Chevelle has the "B L". Like Al's, our other Baltimore built Malibu doesn't have the L. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/wink.gif

mockingbird812 04-08-2006 09:24 AM

Re: Interesting topic on TC: Baltimore '69 Chevel
 
Keith,

Am guessing the other non-SS 'velle is one of them COPO cars.

Keith Tedford 04-08-2006 06:34 PM

Re: Interesting topic on TC: Baltimore '69 Chevel
 
Good guess.

Alss 04-08-2006 06:38 PM

Re: Interesting topic on TC: Baltimore '69 Chevel
 
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mockingbird812 04-08-2006 07:11 PM

Re: Interesting topic on TC: Baltimore '69 Chevel
 
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Yeah ALbert, I know what your thinking too! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/wink.gif

You fire that baby up yet? Been awhile since we saw some pictures of that mean machine. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...-I-Have-It.gif


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