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A468BU 11-17-2006 05:02 AM

1969 Yenko Nova
 
I was wondering if there were any pictures of this car around. It was supposedly restored some where in pa recently. What info is there on this car?

SS427 11-17-2006 05:57 AM

Re: 1969 Yenko Nova
 
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Are you talking this one? (open attachment)
Here are more SCW Yenko Nova. Page down to find more photos of this car.
Rick

Chevy454 11-17-2006 06:00 AM

Re: 1969 Yenko Nova
 
I think there's like 3 currently at the SCW...

A468BU 11-17-2006 11:45 PM

Re: 1969 Yenko Nova
 
Yes SS427 I believe that is the car. My uncle is the oringnal owner of that car. I had a guy stop in asking me about it the other day. I think someone by the name of henderson restored it and it has not been done for too long now. All I know is someone stopped in asking for my grandfather (he signed for the car) and so the story in sewed. I can't say for sure if that is the car or not that you showed the pictures of. Do you know if the oringnal owners initails are CD?? If so theres a discrepancy with this car.

Salvatore 11-17-2006 11:56 PM

Re: 1969 Yenko Nova
 
Brian Henderson from the Supercar Workshop!! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif Don't forget Arones Body Shop. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/worship.gif

hvychev 11-18-2006 07:05 AM

Re: 1969 Yenko Nova
 
What is the descrepancy?

chads454Ls6 11-19-2006 09:15 AM

Re: 1969 Yenko Nova
 
Hey Brian,please do not start something unless you are ready to back it up! Funny you start this as vettefest starts and you do not answer heavychevys question!

A468BU 11-19-2006 10:26 PM

Re: 1969 Yenko Nova
 
Not starting anything. And I did post a reply and it disappeared. I will say once again. If the oringal owners initials are CD then that is the car I am talking about. This car has been brought up to us numerous times. People asking if it is indeed a "Yenko Super Car", witch it is not. The car was bought brand new from Yenko Chevy by my uncle but was titled under my grandfathers name.

COPO 11-20-2006 12:03 AM

Re: 1969 Yenko Nova
 
WOW https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/shocked.gif What engine was in your uncle's car when purchased new from Yenko? Was it a 396 - 375 HP?

Chevy454 11-20-2006 12:09 AM

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And I did post a reply and it disappeared.

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You're paranoid...everything that's ever been there is there...

A468BU 11-20-2006 12:43 AM

Re: 1969 Yenko Nova
 
I'm not exactly sure of the horsepower. But it was a 396. I will have to ask my father he knows for sure. They blew the engine in the car I believe within the first 2 weeks of owning the car. I believe it sucked a valve. They called Yenko Chevy and explained to them that they had put headers,4:88 gears and slicks on the car. They told him to put the street tires back on and tow it in. They picked the car back up with a total bill of $2 and some odd change for the oil.

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Also forgot to mention it was replace with another 396 engine. I'm pretty sure the heads were also replaced. I remember him say they only reused the intake.

A468BU 11-20-2006 12:46 AM

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And I did post a reply and it disappeared.

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You're paranoid...everything that's ever been there is there...

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I may have not clicked both post buttons then, my bad. And again I would like to stress that I am not 100% sure that this is the car. Like I said though if my grandfathers name was on the title of this car then it was just a plain ol BB nova. I know my father has some pictures of it around somewhere, I'm goin to see if i can get my hands on them and get them on here.

Chevy454 11-20-2006 12:49 AM

Re: 1969 Yenko Nova
 
Pictures would be cool!

A468BU 11-20-2006 01:08 AM

Re: 1969 Yenko Nova
 
I just looked for some and none to be found. Talked with my father and he feels sure that my aunt has some of it. My uncle that owned the car past away 2 years ago. So I am goin to ck with her in hopes of finding some to post here.

Jeff H 11-20-2006 01:27 AM

Re: 1969 Yenko Nova
 
Which VIN # car are you referring to?

COPO 11-20-2006 03:32 AM

Re: 1969 Yenko Nova
 
Do you recall if the intake was aluminum? If so, then it would have been a 396 - 375 HP car.

MikeA 11-20-2006 04:38 AM

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And I did post a reply and it disappeared.

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I may have not clicked both post buttons then, my bad. And again I would like to stress that I am not 100% sure that this is the car. Like I said though if my grandfathers name was on the title of this car then it was just a plain ol BB nova. I know my father has some pictures of it around somewhere, I'm goin to see if i can get my hands on them and get them on here.

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You should be 100% certain about your information before posting these types of statements on a public forum. If I were the owner of the car I would be very upset. Just my opinion.


A468BU 11-20-2006 06:13 AM

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And I did post a reply and it disappeared.

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You're paranoid...everything that's ever been there is there...

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I may have not clicked both post buttons then, my bad. And again I would like to stress that I am not 100% sure that this is the car. Like I said though if my grandfathers name was on the title of this car then it was just a plain ol BB nova. I know my father has some pictures of it around somewhere, I'm goin to see if i can get my hands on them and get them on here.

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You should be 100% certain about your information before posting these types of statements on a public forum. If I were the owner of the car I would be very upset. Just my opinion.


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I said 4 times I am not sure if that is the car. What I do know is someone told me that they restored the car that has my grandfathers name as the first owner and that its restored as being a yenko. And that this was not the first time this car has been brought up to us about it being a yenko car. First time being years ago.

LS6 RAT 11-20-2006 11:39 AM

Re: 1969 Yenko Nova
 
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I'm not exactly sure of the horsepower. But it was a 396.
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Also forgot to mention it was replace with another 396 engine. I'm pretty sure the heads were also replaced. I remember him say they only reused the intake


If I were the owner, I'd be more than upset; I'd be depressed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

COPO 11-20-2006 03:59 PM

Re: 1969 Yenko Nova
 
My $0.02 is Brian has been VERY careful to clarify that his statements pertain only to the car that his uncle purchased and was first titled in his grandfather's name. No one has yet confirmed whether the two cars discussed are in fact one and the same. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/confused.gif

YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY 11-20-2006 04:36 PM

Re: 1969 Yenko Nova
 
Do you recall who has been contacting you about the car?

Kim_Howie 11-20-2006 07:04 PM

Re: 1969 Yenko Nova
 
I have known about this car for 15-20 years. Mick Price found it. Vinnce E. had it on his list back then showing it trans to Yenko Span Group. Gary Dyer owned then. The car has NO issues period. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/flag.gif

YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY 11-20-2006 07:17 PM

Re: 1969 Yenko Nova
 
I don't believe there is any question that the car is an SYC car as opposed to an 'ole BB Nova' - no offense to Brian Dorsey - because the car has a file of original SYC paperwork from Warren.

There can always be doubts about whether a '69 Yenko Nova was a 396 tuned car vs. a 427 converted car. I don't believe that there is a formal list of which cars were tuned vs. converted.

I do know that this car was verified by Vince, and it has Ed C's cert as well. So, it would be helpful to know some more of the background of the original purchase.

COPO 11-20-2006 07:17 PM

Re: 1969 Yenko Nova
 
Is the discussion about 2 different cars?

YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY 11-20-2006 07:34 PM

Re: 1969 Yenko Nova
 
Sorry, same car. The name on the original paperwork is Cloyd Dorsey.

Jeff H 11-20-2006 08:03 PM

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I don't believe there is any question that the car is an SYC car as opposed to an 'ole BB Nova' - no offense to Brian Dorsey - because the car has a file of original SYC paperwork from Warren.

There can always be doubts about whether a '69 Yenko Nova was a 396 tuned car vs. a 427 converted car. I don't believe that there is a formal list of which cars were tuned vs. converted.

I do know that this car was verified by Vince, and it has Ed C's cert as well. So, it would be helpful to know some more of the background of the original purchase.

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Marlin, does this mean the car was ordered by Clyde Dorsey as a 427 SYC Nova? Does Warren's paperwork show that? Or did Yenko do the 427 conversion and put the car for sale on the showroom floor where Dorsey then bought it? I've never followed the Nova's very close so I don't know how most of those cars were ordered/built.

YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY 11-20-2006 08:13 PM

Re: 1969 Yenko Nova
 
To my knowledge, none of the Warren paperwork indicates that a given '69 Yenko Nova is a 396 tuned or a 427 converted car. One of the paperwork clues however that would support a conversion is that there is usually a dollar discount for the original 396 engine - generally $500. Also, the exact process for selling a '69 Yenko Nova is not completely known. We speculate that Don would not go through the expense of a 427 conversion unless there was a legitimate buyer - either locally or another dealer. We also believe that Don bought the SSL78 Novas in batches, and would either sell them through Yenko Chevrolet or Yenko SportsCars - whichever sold them first. This is supported by the trim tag info on several of these cars where the build dates are the same, and body numbers are only a few digits apart.

So, the short answer is that we really don't know how this car was ordered/delivered until Brian Dorsey can obtain some additional information.

Jeff H 11-20-2006 08:38 PM

Re: 1969 Yenko Nova
 
I guess I was thinking of Baldwin/Motion regarding specific orders to build cars and thought Yenko might do the same thing with the Novas.

YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY 11-20-2006 09:25 PM

Re: 1969 Yenko Nova
 
I understand your perspective. Yenko was similar to BM for those cars sold from his own dealership, but unlike BM for cars that were transferred to other dealerships. What we have found is that cars sold from Yenko SportsCars to locals have a very high probability of being unique in some way - for eg; think of BKH's 7k mile yellow '69 yenko camaro with the '68 vinyl top added before being sold new by Regency down the street. We know of another '69 Yenko Nova that apparently had a tri-power installed on the original 396. We know of a Canonsburg sold '67 Yenko Camaro with 4 pages of options installed, and a '68 Yenko Camaro with a proto-type f-glass deck lid. So, Yenko would customize cars that he was prepared to deal with the warranty issues. However, it appears that Yenko traditionally would not customize cars that he was selling into his dealer network - and wisely so. Otherwise, he would have to deal with complaints that were not covered under the standard GM warranty.

The car in question is a Canonsburg sold car, so it is even more important to get additional information on how it was optioned new. The fact that there might not have been stripes or emblems is trivial - and not surprising if true - since we have original owner deuces that had to demand Don to put the Magnum wheels on their car, and even then he just threw the 'Y' decals on the front seat! So, if Don could get out of doing something in order to save a few bucks - he would.

A468BU 11-21-2006 12:35 AM

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I don't believe there is any question that the car is an SYC car as opposed to an 'ole BB Nova' - no offense to Brian Dorsey - because the car has a file of original SYC paperwork from Warren.

There can always be doubts about whether a '69 Yenko Nova was a 396 tuned car vs. a 427 converted car. I don't believe that there is a formal list of which cars were tuned vs. converted.

I do know that this car was verified by Vince, and it has Ed C's cert as well. So, it would be helpful to know some more of the background of the original purchase.

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Marlin, does this mean the car was ordered by Clyde Dorsey as a 427 SYC Nova? Does Warren's paperwork show that? Or did Yenko do the 427 conversion and put the car for sale on the showroom floor where Dorsey then bought it? I've never followed the Nova's very close so I don't know how most of those cars were ordered/built.

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Car had a 396/375hp engine when purchased. My uncle really wanted a 440 six pack car which he had ordered, but never came. So he and my father went to yenko chevrolet looking for another car and found this one.

A468BU 11-21-2006 12:35 AM

Re: 1969 Yenko Nova
 
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I don't believe there is any question that the car is an SYC car as opposed to an 'ole BB Nova' - no offense to Brian Dorsey - because the car has a file of original SYC paperwork from Warren.

There can always be doubts about whether a '69 Yenko Nova was a 396 tuned car vs. a 427 converted car. I don't believe that there is a formal list of which cars were tuned vs. converted.

I do know that this car was verified by Vince, and it has Ed C's cert as well. So, it would be helpful to know some more of the background of the original purchase.

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The car was sitting on the lot. My father and uncle looked at the car and My grandfather came back and made the purchase. I talked to someone today that spoke with Warren and he has no paper work show that the car was indeed a "YSC", just that it was sold at Yenko.

A468BU 11-21-2006 12:42 AM

Re: 1969 Yenko Nova
 
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Well this is a picture that I got today from my aunt. It is not very good. It is sitting their garage after it was blown up with the slicks on it. My father did towing for yenko and knew the service manger pretty well. He told him to remove the slicks and bring it in.

YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY 11-21-2006 12:48 AM

Re: 1969 Yenko Nova
 
Excellent info! Warren sold the paperwork to a prior owner several years ago, so that is why Warren no longer has the paperwork. You might be surprised to find that the original bill of sale is through Yenko SportsCars, not Yenko Chevrolet, which is one reason why it's considered an sYc product.

The lack of stripes and emblems is inconclusive as to whether the engine was originally a 396. Do you have a pic of the front fender area, possibly where we can see the marker light bezel?

A468BU 11-21-2006 12:55 AM

Re: 1969 Yenko Nova
 
Warren has copy's of that paper work and still has them today. What other kind of info do you want? My father was there in 69. He knows what the car was, he owned an auto business and knew then and knows now what a YSC is. Which this was not. Any one from this area knew this car. In fact over talking today at the garage there were several people around that remember the car.

YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY 11-21-2006 01:05 AM

Re: 1969 Yenko Nova
 
Warren received copies of the paperwork today from the current owner, but the originals were sent to a prior owner in Iowa several years ago.

I'm not sure what to tell ya, but the original paperwork is from Yenko SportsCars, not Yenko Chevrolet, which indicates that the car was/is an sYc product. A buyer would not know/care which entity the car was sold through, it does make a difference today however.

Just some trivia, the last owner in PA was in Mariana - any info on how it got down to that neck of the woods?

Kim_Howie 11-21-2006 01:36 AM

Re: 1969 Yenko Nova
 
I noticed the Experts are comenting on this car at the other site!!!!

A468BU 11-21-2006 01:47 AM

Re: 1969 Yenko Nova
 
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Warren received copies of the paperwork today from the current owner, but the originals were sent to a prior owner in Iowa several years ago.

I'm not sure what to tell ya, but the original paperwork is from Yenko SportsCars, not Yenko Chevrolet, which indicates that the car was/is an sYc product. A buyer would not know/care which entity the car was sold through, it does make a difference today however.

Just some trivia, the last owner in PA was in Mariana - any info on how it got down to that neck of the woods?

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I am posting this standing in Warrens right now with the paper work in my hands. Theres the invoice, loan papers and dealer shipping sheet with my grandfathers name on them. All from Yenko Chevrolet NOT Yenko sportscars as you said.

MikeA 11-21-2006 02:44 AM

Re: 1969 Yenko Nova
 
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Warren received copies of the paperwork today from the current owner, but the originals were sent to a prior owner in Iowa several years ago.

I'm not sure what to tell ya, but the original paperwork is from Yenko SportsCars, not Yenko Chevrolet, which indicates that the car was/is an sYc product. A buyer would not know/care which entity the car was sold through, it does make a difference today however.

Just some trivia, the last owner in PA was in Mariana - any info on how it got down to that neck of the woods?

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I am posting this standing in Warrens right now with the paper work in my hands. Theres the invoice, loan papers and dealer shipping sheet with my grandfathers name on them. All from Yenko Chevrolet NOT Yenko sportscars as you said.

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Scan them and post'em.

A468BU 11-21-2006 02:50 AM

Re: 1969 Yenko Nova
 
Thats what I would like to do. But warren sold the papers to a previous owner and there for can not give me copy's. If YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY would like to call Warren then it can be resolved.

MikeA 11-21-2006 03:36 AM

Re: 1969 Yenko Nova
 
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Thats what I would like to do. But warren sold the papers to a previous owner and there for can not give me copy's. If YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY would like to call Warren then it can be resolved.

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I misread your post. I thought you had some additional information.


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