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Xplantdad 12-02-2007 07:02 PM

Sam Griffith's Super Savoy!
 
As some of you have figured out by now, I like to research and write about classic iron. This is particularly puzzling considering how much I enjoy picture books over books with lots of words https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ins/tongue.gif . For those not interested in the history/background https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/scholar.gif scroll down to the photos of my “beautiful” mount.


My 1962 Savoy is Plymouth’s base offering in a line up including the Belvedere, Fury, and Sport Fury. There were no stripes, scoops, or call-outs to distinguish this sedan from Granny’s slant-six grocery-getter. This reserved looking MoPar is packing serious power by way of the Maximum Performance Engine Package. In fact, Gordy Carlson bought this factory-sponsored racecar in the spring of ’62 with instructions from Chrysler’s Racing Director, to go head-to-head with the best drag cars from Ford and GM. Enthusiast magazines soon labeled these special Plymouths “Max Wedge” or “Super Stock” (S/S). The Dodges had their similar “Ramcharger” racing program. Shortly after their introduction, these new “kids” on the strip redefined the top Stock classes.


The “Max Wedge” program was Chrysler’s official entry into a factory sponsored racing program. Up to this point, the mindset within Chrysler did not embrace the idea of factory sponsored racing the way GM and Ford did. In fact the competition was building impressive credentials at the drag strip and leaving Chrysler behind. Chrysler’s new president, Lynn Townsend, singled out Product Planning Engineer Tom Hoover, the Godfather of the “Hemi” and a founding member of the Ramchargers Drag Racing Club, to see what he could do to help out with Chrysler’s dreary racing image. In October of 1961, with the president’s backing and a blank change request, Tom Hoover launched the legendary “Max Wedge” program.


Incredibly, so many essential elements for Townsend’s racing initiative came together in a very short period of time. Some by design, some by chance. Prior to Lynn’s top posting, Chrysler executives had decided to downsize the ’62 Plymouths and Dodges based on misinterpreted information coming from GM. Two things resulted - one inconsequential to drag racers, the other monumental. First, as a result of a quick styling do-over to facilitate the markedly smaller size, the cars were awkward looking. Secondly, and of big interest to racers, the cars went on a serious natural diet, lopping off as much as 10 inches in length, 2 inches in wheelbase, and over 300 pounds in weight. This plus the introduction of unibody construction put the “Max Wedge” cars two to three hundred pounds lighter than even the Ford and GM lightweight aluminum cars. The Savoy had an impressive rating of 7.77 lbs/HP with a shipping weight of just 3185 lbs.


As the Chrysler engineers were formulating their new drag racer, the NHRA was in the process of revising their rules for the upcoming season. Chrysler paid very close attention to one rule in particular. Only factory-assembly-line-installed and/or show-room-sales-available equipment are permitted for stock class entries. Up to that time, dealer-installed optional engine packages were allowed to run legally in stock classes. Also, the Super Super/Stock (SS/S) class was established and was set aside for only the newest vehicles with the top horsepower options. Chrysler was intent on dominating it.


So, what was the Maximum Performance Engine Package? To be sure, it was a lot more than just a drag racing motor stuffed in a mid-size car. A $545.00 option that included a well-engineered and complete package with numerous performance and durability upgrades to the entire powertrain and suspension. The engine was, however, the centerpiece of the racing package. The “Super Stock” 413 was based on the “B” block assembly introduced in 1958, but with notable upgrades. That included forged-aluminum high dome pistons squeezing the air-fuel mixture in the wedge-shaped combustion chambers at either 11:1 for 410 HP/460 TQ or 13.5:1 for 420 HP/470 TQ. A completely new head was used on the drag engines with large intake (2.08”) and exhaust valves (1.88”) and a full race valve train. The camshaft had .500” of lift and 300o duration utilizing mechanical lifters. The heart of the performance boost, however, was the short-ram intake system with a pair of 525 cfm Carter AFBs atop. Hoover’s team took the 30” long ram intakes then found on the big Chryslers and shortened the runners to 15” and oriented them diagonally (read cross ram). This effectively raised the maximum HP/RPM level in the engine making it ideal for drag racing. They also designed a superb set of free flowing headers. The 2” passages swept up and back like ram’s horns in a smooth arc then down to 3” head pipes. They terminated under the car in 3” Laker cutouts with caps. Removing these was good for an additional 70 HP.


I bought my Luminous Blue “Super Stock” three years ago and immediately began my research. I got help from folks like Chrysler guru, Galen Govier, and retired Chrysler executive, Darrell Davis. Darrell is real gem of a fellow and is very willing to share his unique information. He is very knowledgeable on Chrysler’s early racing efforts particularly dealing with the cross ram Max Wedge and Racing Hemi programs. He and I grew up I the same neck of the woods, but didn’t know each other. I had a good lead on the original owner’s whereabouts and eventually caught up with him in 2006. Gordy was very enthusiastic in telling me about his car’s remarkable past. It was shipped from the Lynch Road plant in Michigan to the Fred Emich Plymouth dealership in Evanston, IL in late May. Ronnie Householder, Chrysler’s Racing Boss, arranged for it to be delivered to then 23 year old Gordy Carlson of Chicago. He was holding down two jobs at the time. During the daytime he wrenched at Henry Susk Pontiac at Grand and Wabash Avenues and in the evenings at Ernie’s Standard Service Station at the corner of California and Peterson Avenues. Ronnie and Gordy had met at Daytona in 1960 when Gordy was crewing for stock car racer Pop McGinnis. Gordy must have left an impression as he received the very first “Super Stock” with a manual transmission released by the factory.

The car was delivered with the 410 HP engine and the Borg-Warner T-85 Heavy Duty 3 speed tranny. There were no 4 speeds in the Chrysler inventory that could handle the tremendous torque of the 413 drag engine. The T-85s were difficult to hook up and were quite sluggish to shift, according to Gordy. This was a real challenge for him going up against the GMs and Fords with their superior 4 speeds, but Gordy persevered. Being sponsored by Chrysler, he would race on the weekend and call Ronnie on Monday to report his results. Ronnie would then send him new parts to improve performance. One such upgrade was to raise the compression to 13.5:1 with hardware provided by the factory. I asked Gordy if the car pinged with the ultra high compression. He said, “if it did I didn’t hear it with all the noise that engine made”. Gordy steadily improved by working on his launching and shifting techniques and was very impressed with the “Max Wedge’s” capabilities. He had good success in the tri-state area including drag strips at Union Grove, Cordova, and U.S. 30 and observed, “The ‘409s’ ran when I showed up” Gordy was the first in the stock classes to break into the 12’s at the tracks he raced, but what impressed him most was turning high teens in mph through the traps. These cars were obviously traction limited as the tire technology severely lagged powertrain development, but the terrific speeds at the end of the quarter mile were a testament to the power being developed by the “Max Wedge” engines.


When I visited with Gordy in Chicago this past March I asked him about his favorite memories with the Savoy. He told me he used to be very quiet and shy in “those” days. One evening while working at the service station, three of Chicago’s finest strolled in to check out his mysterious ride. This worried the reserved racer. After checking the car out the cops asked him for a ride. Gordy told me, “The interest was always there when you opened the hood or started the motor and they heard it rumble”. Gordy obliged. The cop in the front seat was not prepared for what happened next. “I scared him to death when I stuck my foot in it”, said Gordy. His two compatriots had to peel him off of the front seat and Gordy remembers the cop nearly had a heart attack because of the unexpectedly brutal ride in the Plymouth. According to Gordy, he was only used to the performance of the paddy wagons.


Gordy sold the Savoy for $2,000.00 in the spring of ‘63 to another fellow in the Chicago area, Jerry Zielinski. Jerry also has many fond memories of his old mount and raced it regularly in various stock classes from ’63 to ’70. He too raced it at Union Grove, and even at the indoor Amphitheatre in Chicago, but his favorite spot was the U.S. 30 Dragway in Indiana. He had good success and collected plenty of trophies and class wins. Jerry remembers taking his S/S to the “Pie Pan”, a local favorite with racers, known for their delicious pies and for its proximity to Edens Expressway where impromptu street racing would occur. At the racetracks, however, Jerry’s Dad was his biggest fan where he could be found proudly cheering on his son. As a tribute, Jerry eventually named the car “Mister Z” in honor of his father.


Just 116 “Max Wedge” Savoy 2-door sedans were made during the short production run at the tail end of the ‘62 model year. Mine was the eighth “Super Stock” Savoy produced. The Chrysler Registry indicates it is the earliest of only 25 of the special Savoys accounted for today. The seat covers, headliner, and door panels are original. The odometer reads just over 5,600 original miles. My Plymouth has no power steering or brakes, radio, side view mirror, carpeting, reverse lights, cigar lighter, or rear seat armrests. These were all power-robbing, weight-adding options and, according to the original Build Sheet, were not ordered. However, with an eye toward safety, Gordy ordered seat belts.


The car is a ball-buster to drive even with cheater slicks. The Sure-Grip has 4.56 gears and winds up real quick. Won’t hook on the street https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/hmmm.gif , which is a good thing. Powertrain items are rare and expensive. I have the front torsion bar suspension cranked up about 2.5” as was permitted by NHRA stock rules in ’62. This was common in the day to pre-load the rear axle for supposed better launch. I am in regular contact with Gordy and Jerry. Jerry is retired, but Gordy continues in the auto upholstery business (27 years) with his son on North Clark Street in Chicago. He is tracking down some photos of the Savoy racing back in the day for me. Thanks to Ken “Kwhizz”, Bruce “Xplantdad”, and Rob “Chevy454” for their help with my research. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif


Sam

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Z-11 396 12-02-2007 08:00 PM

Re: Sam Griffith's Super Savoy!
 
+++ Sam +++ What a great story, information, and outstanding ole photo's.... A really Fantastic car, you've got to be proud driving that machine...Thanks for sharing...Kasey .. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif

427TJ 12-02-2007 08:55 PM

Re: Sam Griffith's Super Savoy!
 
BEAUTIFUL car!

47Hammer 12-02-2007 09:36 PM

Re: Sam Griffith's Super Savoy!
 
Sam,

Great write up on a special car with a documented racing history. Excellent pictures as well, love the color, looks like you've had her at Pavilions already. Very nice job. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif

Verne_Frantz 12-02-2007 09:41 PM

Re: Sam Griffith's Super Savoy!
 
Sam,
Now THAT is a book worth reading and a CAR worth seeing!!! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif
The car is stunning! The old photos with it make it very special. What a piece if history... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/worship.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif
Thanks so much for sharing.

Verne

markjohnson 12-02-2007 10:16 PM

Re: Sam Griffith's Super Savoy!
 
WOW! I don't even know where to begin. The well-documented history, the vintage drag photos, etc. I just love this car. Of those 62-65 Dodges/Plymouths, the '62's are my favorites(especially the Plymouths!). They just appear so sinister-looking. They are commonly known as the least attractive of that era, but maybe that's why they appeal so much to me. That is NOT a car for impressing females, that is a true Racer's Special. You gotta love that exhaust system with the factory 'dumps'. Chrysler really had some courage to release an exhaust system like that on a production car. Outstanding car and thanks for sharing.

x Baldwin Motion 12-02-2007 10:36 PM

Re: Sam Griffith's Super Savoy!
 
wow !! great story Sam, interesting educational entertainment. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/scholar.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/cool.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/worship.gif

excellent vintage photos and history!!

I really like the James Bond revolving license plate in front. Whats the rear say?


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Xplantdad 12-02-2007 10:48 PM

Re: Sam Griffith's Super Savoy!
 
Sam,

Thanks for sharing your way cool Savoy with us! I remember the first time I saw (maybe I should say...heard) it...

It's definitely got a sound you wont forget anytime soon. The amount of documentation that Sam has for this car fills an entire photo album.

Sam is an awesome person...and I am lucky that he considers me a friend of his. His priorities are are parallel to mine...family first...cars, yep...and headlight shots https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/wink.gif

By the way Chris...the license plate on the back says "MAXSAVY"

Thanks again Sam!

BTW, I hope you don't mind that I added the interior shot, the close up of the cutout shot and the decal shot to your collection of really cool photos! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

47Hammer 12-02-2007 11:09 PM

Re: Sam Griffith's Super Savoy!
 
Thanks for sharing your way cool Savoy with us! I remember the first time I saw (maybe I should say...heard) it...


Bruce, Your slipping, where is the video of this monster running!!! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif

Xplantdad 12-02-2007 11:11 PM

Re: Sam Griffith's Super Savoy!
 
[ QUOTE ]
Thanks for sharing your way cool Savoy with us! I remember the first time I saw (maybe I should say...heard) it...


Bruce, Your slipping, where is the video of this monster running!!! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

That will have to come from Sam...or, I could always go over to his house and take a few videos... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/hmmm.gif

x Baldwin Motion 12-02-2007 11:25 PM

Re: Sam Griffith's Super Savoy!
 
[ QUOTE ]
......... I could always go over to his house and take a few videos... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/hmmm.gif

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I need to hear that monster uncorked!! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/headbang.gif

737Driver 12-03-2007 01:05 AM

Re: Sam Griffith's Super Savoy!
 
Without a doubt, one of the coolest cars I've seen in many a moon. AWESOME https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/worship.gif

mockingbird812 12-03-2007 01:15 AM

Re: Sam Griffith's Super Savoy!
 
Bruce - I thot you snuck a couple shots in there that I didn't recognize https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/hmmm.gif ! Thanks again for posting the story of the old beast.

I'll get a video of her making noise. My boys are the videographers and I have proposed a video (w/ sound) session with them. It is just a big challenge working into their busy schedule https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/rolleyes.gif . Pops just ain't top priority with a 17 and 19 year old anymore https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif .

m22mike 12-03-2007 01:35 AM

Re: Sam Griffith's Super Savoy!
 
Sam
If you were still in Canfield I would come over just to lick the tires clean for you !
Congrats on a awsome car. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/worship.gif

Mike https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...-I-Have-It.gif

Tenney 12-03-2007 01:41 AM

Re: Sam Griffith's Super Savoy!
 
Gets no cooler - great car.

DaveC68 12-03-2007 01:54 AM

Re: Sam Griffith's Super Savoy!
 
Great story and history....
the thing I love about these old cars.

Xplantdad 12-03-2007 03:35 AM

Re: Sam Griffith's Super Savoy!
 
[ QUOTE ]
Bruce - I thot you snuck a couple shots in there that I didn't recognize https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/hmmm.gif ! Thanks again for posting the story of the old beast.

I'll get a video of her making noise. My boys are the videographers and I have proposed a video (w/ sound) session with them. It is just a big challenge working into their busy schedule https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/rolleyes.gif . Pops just ain't top priority with a 17 and 19 year old anymore https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif .

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Just get Cubby involved...she'll do anything for a burger! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/wink.gif

SUSQ 12-03-2007 04:56 AM

Re: Sam Griffith's Super Savoy!
 
What a beast Sam! The York US30 window sticker is cool too! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/cool.gif

kwhizz 12-03-2007 05:21 AM

Re: Sam Griffith's Super Savoy!
 
Sam...................Wow!!!........Awsum Car!!.....By the way, it looks like the last four pictures are from Union Grove....... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif

Ken https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/flag.gif

mockingbird812 12-03-2007 05:43 AM

Re: Sam Griffith's Super Savoy!
 
[ QUOTE ]
Sam...................Wow!!!........Awsum Car!!.....By the way, it looks like the last four pictures are from Union Grove....... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif

Ken https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/flag.gif

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Good eye Ken https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/laugh.gif ! All four photos are all dated July 17th 1966. This was when Jerry Z had the car.

mockingbird812 12-03-2007 05:51 AM

Re: Sam Griffith's Super Savoy!
 
When Gordy raced the car in '62 the tracks required him to send his exhaust to the perimeter of the car with a set up like below. I recreated it with his inputs. It reminds me of a jet aircraft for some reason https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/rolleyes.gif . It changes the pitch of the Max Wedge to a more throaty, satisfying sound https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/cool.gif !


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Belair62 12-03-2007 06:03 AM

Re: Sam Griffith's Super Savoy!
 
Sam...Beils Upholstery does excellent work. I used to work in that area..never forget...even in the late 70's seeing a 53 Skylark pull out of Beils....sell me the Savoy !!

kwhizz 12-03-2007 06:07 AM

Re: Sam Griffith's Super Savoy!
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Sam...................Wow!!!........Awsum Car!!.....By the way, it looks like the last four pictures are from Union Grove....... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif

Ken https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/flag.gif

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Good eye Ken https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/laugh.gif ! All four photos are all dated July 17th 1966. This was when Jerry Z had the car.

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I was probably out there that day with my 3 month old L-79 Nova (Marina Blue SS) https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/worship.gif...Took Delivery from Hoskins Chevrolet on April 16th https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif

Ken https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/flag.gif

kwhizz 12-03-2007 06:26 AM

Re: Sam Griffith's Super Savoy!
 

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Looks like Palmer Lazarus's Orange Willys behind the Plymouth.....Also a neat Chevelle on the left side of the Pic...........

Ken https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/flag.gif

Postsedan 12-03-2007 06:37 AM

Re: Sam Griffith's Super Savoy!
 
What can I say....it`s a Post Sedan https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/worship.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/worship.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/worship.gif

Way cool.....Sam https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif

Dan.

kwhizz 12-03-2007 06:39 AM

Re: Sam Griffith's Super Savoy!
 
I remember a guy in the Neighborhood that had a 62 or 63 Dodge Max Wedge Torqflite car....He drove it daily and it timed out that as I was walking to School in the morning he would be going to work.....Loved to hear the "Muscle" Sound......as I remember they were manual Choke cars and when the Weather got Cold.....That Car wasn't going anywhere until it got warm enough to keep running when the "D" button was pushed......I think the car lasted one or two winters and he got Married and the Dodge was replaced with a Slant Six Dart
Have a lot of Memories of that car with the "Rumpity" Idle and the Shoe Polish Numbers on the Window from the Drag Strip..Very Impressionable on a Young "Whizz"

Ken

mockingbird812 12-03-2007 08:14 AM

Re: Sam Griffith's Super Savoy!
 
Max Wedge motors did not like the cold wx https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif . There was no heat cross-over on the intake manifold and Chrysler warned of carburetor icing. A service bulletin recommended covering the radiator and using a gasoline with anti-icing additives. "In winter weather, a rich surging condition, misfiring, and unstable engine operation may be encountered which may be severe and make ordinary street driving extremely difficult and undesirable" https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/crazy.gif

You are right. They did have a manual choke. One pull knob connected to two cables/choke levers (3rd knob from the left).


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mockingbird812 12-03-2007 05:31 PM

Re: Sam Griffith's Super Savoy!
 
[ QUOTE ]
Sam...Beils Upholstery does excellent work. I used to work in that area..never forget...even in the late 70's seeing a 53 Skylark pull out of Beils....sell me the Savoy !!

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Bob - I was wondering if any of the locals would know Beil's. Gordy owns it and operates it and his son and several other workers are on the payroll. I got the grand tour which was a lot of fun. The attic is like a maze and holds an impressive stock of vintage cloth/vinyl/leather. He has some very rare upholstery, vinyl roof, and convertible top material in his storage facility. Some of it dates back to the 20's and 30's. Plenty of sixties/seventies stuff too https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/naughty.gif . He is very proud of his business and is in the process of turning it over to his son.
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tabooo 12-04-2007 01:42 AM

Re: Sam Griffith's Super Savoy!
 
Where is Sam Beils located?

mockingbird812 12-04-2007 02:03 AM

Re: Sam Griffith's Super Savoy!
 
Beils is on about (don't have address in front of me) 6500 block of North Clark St. Chicago.

bkhpah 12-04-2007 02:40 AM

Re: Sam Griffith's Super Savoy!
 
Pure baddass..BKH https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/worship.gif

Belair62 12-04-2007 02:53 AM

Re: Sam Griffith's Super Savoy!
 
Yep..Clark near Peterson. Bet he would remember a 53 Skylark coming out of there with what looked like a new top. Damn car looked near to rallye green...just beautiful with a white convert top.

mockingbird812 12-04-2007 07:19 AM

Re: Sam Griffith's Super Savoy!
 
[ QUOTE ]
Sam
If you were still in Canfield I would come over just to lick the tires clean for you !
Congrats on a awsome car. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/worship.gif

Mike https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...-I-Have-It.gif

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So, Mike, your saying you saw dirt on my tires https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/smirk.gif ? Man, that is border-line fanatical Mike! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif

olredalert 12-04-2007 05:47 PM

Re: Sam Griffith's Super Savoy!
 
-----Naw,,,Sam,,,He just likes the taste of Armorall. Either that or you have been using marmalade for better stick at the strip!!!...........Bill S

m22mike 12-05-2007 03:25 AM

Re: Sam Griffith's Super Savoy!
 
Actually I like the taste of "Son Of A Gun" better ! Armorall is to greasy https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ins/tongue.gif

Mike https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

mockingbird812 12-05-2007 04:26 AM

Re: Sam Griffith's Super Savoy!
 
Here she is in stock street trim (sans hubcaps) in front of Jerry Z's house shortly after buying it from Gordy (early '63)...


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Notice the torsion bars are cranked way up in the front https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/cool.gif .

1970Bluel78 12-05-2007 06:27 PM

Re: Sam Griffith's Super Savoy!
 
Great story . Thanks for Sharing....

Zedder 12-06-2007 05:34 AM

Re: Sam Griffith's Super Savoy!
 
Very cool Sam...congrats and thanks for sharing!

mockingbird812 12-06-2007 05:41 AM

Re: Sam Griffith's Super Savoy!
 
Thanks fellows. Its my pleasure. I am really proud of her. I grew up with MoPar (all LoPo) and have a soft spot for odd, non-pretty ones! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif


http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v6...ckJersHome.jpg

Anybody recognize the neighborhood?

ORIGLS6 12-06-2007 08:51 PM

Re: Sam Griffith's Super Savoy!
 
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I grew up with MoPar (all LoPo) and have a soft spot for odd, non-pretty ones!:

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Kinda reminds me of some of the 'plain girls' in high school who turned out to be knock-outs a few years later.

You gotta look past the surface!

I too remember the sound of those Max Wedge cars. Still makes my heart race and puts a BIG smile on my face when I hear them.

Only one thing to say; I LOVE IT!!!!! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/worship.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/worship.gif


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