So what the hell is a survivor ?
 

Bait shop open for business again.

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Unrestored, unpainted, rusty, and crusty around the edges.= Cumby. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif

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You guys just love to stir the pot....this shold be good for 3 or 4 pages https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ins/tongue.gif

wilma

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You mean this???

http://www.thespoof.com/sitepics/celebs/hatch.jpg

or this???

http://jerseycool.files.wordpress.co..._1_lighter.jpg


http://www.collider.com/uploads/imag...vivor_logo.jpg

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What better way to help a thread than post pictures. I agree with the above. My idea of a survivor is original paint, untouched engine compartment/undercar/interior and it hopefully retains its original components.

My old '69 Z - (yes I corrected the master)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...arFiles033.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...arFiles076.jpg

My old '66 Vette original owner car:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...nvertible1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...9/DSCN0018.jpg

tag from the spair tire
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...0L79/tire5.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...0L79/tire2.jpg

The local Maroon '69 Z I posted photos of:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...8/P1010001.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...8/P1010006.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...8/P1010016.jpg

Cars that come to mind include Jack's '70 Z28 or KP's old green '69 Z28. I think Chuck and Darren have good photos of both.

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Better would be answers to the following:

1. What should the minimum traits be? (#'s major, minor, paint)
2. What should the maximum traits be? (chalk marks, "caution" sticker https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/smile.gif )
3. What level of restoration/repair be? (sheet metal, consumables (( wtr pmp, alt, belts))
4. Should there be "levels" of survivor?

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Do you hurt the cars survivor status if you clean it up? No paint or bodywork, no new seat covers or anything like that, just clean it up with a degreaser or something along those lines.

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As long as you leave the original dirt and grease that came with the car ! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ins/tongue.gif Like the crud around the ball joints ! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/smirk.gif That might be worth some points ?? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/rolleyes.gif

Mike

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Does this qualify as a survivor (or do I for having survived driving it at speed?) Only 7,900 original owner, miles. One of one, magazine project car. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif Or do I have to wait another decade, or two?

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b2...5268/fornt.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b2...268/engine.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b216/nk15268/int.jpg

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As long as you leave the original dirt and grease that came with the car ! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ins/tongue.gif Like the crud around the ball joints ! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/smirk.gif That might be worth some points ?? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/rolleyes.gif

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Yeah , and an inch of gak on the 40 year old crossmember holding a power glide!! that's what I call survivor. Let's see photos of who's got the biggest crud on their ball joints!! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...emlins/eek.gif

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I think my "li'l ole lady" 67 RS/SS 350 Camaro qualifies as a survivor. Even the license plates and frames are the originals from the selling dealer:

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b1...n_DSCF5460.jpg
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b1...n_DSCF5462.jpg
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b1...n_DSCF5466.jpg
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b1...n_DSCF5468.jpg

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Hey Hey Hey....put that away......

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Is this the car that was at the GM nationals at carlisle 06?
if so... what a great car !!!!! steve

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Uhhh.....I think these would qualify.
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r...010046_JPG.jpg
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r...010023_JPG.jpg
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r...010089_JPG.jpg
Whattya think?

Jeffx2...maybe 4 https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/naughty.gif

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Denis' Camaro rocks!


Hey Jeff M. tell us more...

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i will go one futher. on my 62 bel air survivor which was from an estate sale, i cleaned the ashtray but gently replace the half smoke cigar neatly back in its original position https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/naughty.gif. dennis

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------Dont have a survivor. Cant keep my hands off stuff. As much as I like and appreciate them, Im the wrong guy to have one.........Bill S

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Unfortunately the "you guys rock" phrase survived the 70s..

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I think my "li'l ole lady" 67 RS/SS 350 Camaro qualifies as a survivor. Even the license plates and frames are the originals from the selling dealer:

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b1...n_DSCF5460.jpg
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b1...n_DSCF5462.jpg
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b1...n_DSCF5466.jpg
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b1...n_DSCF5468.jpg

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We have been waiting for that one at the camaro nationals. That is an amazing car, any plans to head eastward for a visit in say June 22-24 ? Great car and owner.
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Unfortunately the "you guys rock" phrase survived the 70s..

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I kinda like it. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif

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I kinda like it.

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We have been waiting for that one at the camaro nationals. That is an amazing car, any plans to head eastward for a visit in say June 22-24 ? Great car and owner.
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Hi Steve. Thanks for the kind words but sorry, no, no plans to do the nationals again any time soon. Maybe when they have a west coast version?

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We have been waiting for that one at the camaro nationals. That is an amazing car, any plans to head eastward for a visit in say June 22-24 ? Great car and owner.
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Hi Steve. Thanks for the kind words but sorry, no, no plans to do the nationals again any time soon. Maybe when they have a west coast version?

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We are working on a couple of things and that possibility exists. I will keep you posted. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif

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I would like to think my 93 year old grandfathers 55 is a survivor. He had it painted this horrible green in 1980.
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m...n_IMG_0094.jpg
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m...n_IMG_0097.jpg
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m...n_IMG_0095.jpg
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m...n_IMG_0100.jpg
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m...n_IMG_0101.jpg
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m...n_IMG_0102.jpg

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Better would be answers to the following:
1. What should the minimum traits be? (#'s major, minor, paint)
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Born in driveline

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Untouched since it rolled off the line,period.-no fluffing,all original parts (rebuilt when ever possible) excluding rubber and fluids.. IMO Denis's car is a benchmark camaro https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

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The Dana L72 of Mini trails-1968 Honda Z50AKO Slant guard High Bar,100% original excluding one service.

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...2/hibarK02.jpg

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It doesn't get any better than that! 93 year old granfather's pea-green 6-banger '55 Delray!

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It doesn't get any better than that! 93 year old granfather's pea-green 6-banger '55 Delray!

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Thanks...He bought it used in 58 and was the only car he ever owned. The car is basically a strip out, no radio, three on the tree, straight 6, one paint job. Original color is Ivory White....

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-----JQuin,,,While lightly optioned you cant say it is without options as it has the Delray interior and overdrive just for starters. Cool five-five........Bill S

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And a Bel Air trim spear on the front fenders. And radio delete.

What's that round gauge in the dash for?

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What's that round gauge in the dash for?

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manifold temp, lets you know when your tinfoil wrapped lunch has been reheated. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/naughty.gif

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-----JQuin,,,While lightly optioned you cant say it is without options as it has the Delray interior and overdrive just for starters. Cool five-five........Bill S

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Show's how much I know...... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif

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What's that round gauge in the dash for?

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manifold temp, lets you know when your tinfoil wrapped lunch has been reheated. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/naughty.gif

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Almost... It's a magnetic thermometer....

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How about this shiny one-owner 307 Nova? Only the block has been resprayed, when the original cam went flat. And it looks like the master cyl, hoses, and battery (and tires) have been replaced. Does that mean this is not a survivor? Otherwise paint, interior, glass, all are original and in great shape.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...78-03pic03.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...78-03pic07.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...78-03pic08.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...78-03pic10.jpg

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Sam, if that is all that is done to the car it would be considered a "survivor" by the trademarked definition. It has to be judged to be 50% unrestored in 3 out of 4 categories - interior, exterior, chassis and mechanical (underhood). A much more difficult award to win is the NCRS 4 Star Bow-Tie award for unrestored cars. The Nova would fail one star due to the engine repaint.

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The Nova would fail one star due to the engine repaint.

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The Nova would fail one star due to the engine repaint.

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Nice Nova Sam!

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-----The steering wheel is on upside down!!!........Bill S

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-----The steering wheel is on upside down!!!........Bill S

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Yeah, but the wheels are turned...maybe there's a corelation. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/smile.gif

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-----The steering wheel is on upside down!!!........Bill S

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No, the car is upside down but the wheel is correct. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif