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Hi, A buddy of mine took a ride a while back to see a so-called COPO project car. I know this is Risky , but im gonna post a couple pics I took. can anyone here give me any advice to that caould lead me to belive this is a real deal copo? Ive been told the car had been wrecked and a new front clip had been installed, the engine is long gone., along with the rear end. so give the pics a look and give me your take to the pics.

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Interesting date code.

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You have a PM...

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I believe a member here owns a Copo with BDY # 293309, 51 51 car that was at the '04 reunion. The Funston car (orange auto) is BDY # 293349. Certainly quite a few Copo cars built during this time. I've never seen a 051 date before.
Mark

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I have been told that this car was sold at Dutch Miller chevolet in Hunnington WA. Any info on this dealer? is this a "good possibility" that the car may me a real deal copo?

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If the front clip was wrecked, most likely the radiator took it in the shorts too. Is it likely that they would have known enuff to replace the radiator with a more rare curved neck one? No expert (but paranoid) - just wondering.

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05A im assuming it should be?

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i did some checking and dutch miller did sell another copo (hugger orange)also what is quite interesting is the vin was pretty close to this car, your body # falls in between some known copos, really close! i think you have the state wrong on the dealer. your vin # falls into an 05a area. i would check this car out more.

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Was the owner ever able to find documentation on the car?

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I don't think you can draw any conclusion on the pics you have posted unless the VIN is known or you have documents.

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I refuse to let this car "die" my heart tells me its a true COPO, Ive even gotten a few "old pictures" of the car back from the earily 70's that the owner has.
IS THERE ANYONE OUT THERE THAT CAN I COULD PAY, TO VERIFY THIS CAR? I TALKED TO MR. ED C. AND HE TOLD ME HE "NO LONGER DOES THIS SERVICE".

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try BKHPAH

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Dutch Miller is still in business in Huntington, WV.

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Brian would be the best to enlist for sure.

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Jerry MacNeish at Camaro High Performance in Eldersburg, Maryland. (410)781-0418. This is what he does. Sam

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Too Bad Ed C doesnt do this anymore. He was the best at his job. Always enjoyed dealing with him,he never had a bad thing to say about anyone. Very rare combination.

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I refuse to let this car "die" my heart tells me its a true COPO....

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No - your heart WANTS it to be a true COPO. For your sake, I hope it is as well! Good luck!

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Too Bad Ed C doesnt do this anymore. He was the best at his job. Always enjoyed dealing with him,he never had a bad thing to say about anyone. Very rare combination.

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Really? It's too bad he felt the need to do this.....

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What is that???????????????

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That's a rebodied silver deuce. If you do that to a few cars, you tend to lose credibility.

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How can you lose credibility by flushing out a rebody?

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How can you lose credibility by flushing out a rebody?

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Thank you! I was burned down at the stake years ago for calling it a rebody, but was vindicated by those pics. So, you are right, you won't lose credibility for flushing out a rebody.

EdC actually performed the rebody on that Deuce. That car is a 20k mile, forest green, 307 with a/t, from Jersey City, NJ.

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Excuse me if I'm totally wrong but I thought there was a certain '69 Nova involved in the foolishness?.
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Matt, everytime I see your posts I want to ask about your J...they and AllStates are very cool!.
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~ Pete

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Excuse me if I'm totally wrong but I thought there was a certain '69 Nova involved in the foolishness?.
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~ Pete

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That is/was another case, and it's in litigation as we type. That case is another reason for losing credibility.

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Excuse me if I'm totally wrong but I thought there was a certain '69 Nova involved in the foolishness?.
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~ Pete

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That is/was another case, and it's in litigation as we type. That case is another reason for losing credibility.

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Yikes!.
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~ Pete

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COPOs are way to easy to clone. The ONLY way they can be verified as the real thing is with OE VIN-stamped drivetrain or genuine factory documentation.

A BE axle doen't mean a thing. I have had a couple of them; several others have been sold.

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The case in litigation is a Nova, not a COPO Nova either. William is right though, the COPO Camaro's are hard to doc - which is why many of the most knowledgeable people don't do cert's!

There is a Yenko Camaro that was cert'd by EdC - turned out there were two of them, and he cert'd the wrong one that was missing a trim tag and a vin on the f/wall. That's in litigation right now too.

Last year was a messy year, I can see why he hung it up.

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There is a Yenko Camaro that was cert'd by EdC - turned out there were two of them, and he cert'd the wrong one that was missing a trim tag and a vin on the f/wall. That's in litigation right now too.


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Is that the Hugger Orange car?

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Good job Marlin https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/worship.gif

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I saw the low mile 307 Nova that disappeared and the fresh silver restored Deuce that appeared. When asked about the beautiful original subframe in the Deuce the response was "its from the green car". When asked about the rest of the green car I was told "we had to use some other parts". Like the whole part I guess!
Its very hard to hide the truth, especially in this hobby. Once you go down that road there's no turning back.
Also, be on the lookout for the newly re-restored black Copo Chevelle, another "oops I did it again" story!
Mark

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There is a Yenko Camaro that was cert'd by EdC - turned out there were two of them, and he cert'd the wrong one that was missing a trim tag and a vin on the f/wall. That's in litigation right now too.


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Is that the Hugger Orange car?

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No, it's a blue one!

Mark is correct, the black copo chevelle is another one - it is indeed a road of no return. That road is called 'reputation'.

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I hate that sorta crap...that stuff is as wrong as wrong gets. Too bad the hobby got to where that became irresistible and even prevalent.

SS

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Very well said Steve...

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The $$$ are what changed everything... somethings are better some are worse. It is better because alot of shoddy restoration parts are beng replaced by correct parts because the market ($$$) is driving it. Then you have situations like mentioned above and they have come about because of the $$$ as well. It is a double edged sword... buyer beware.

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I hate that sorta crap...that stuff is as wrong as wrong gets. Too bad the hobby got to where that became irresistible and even prevalent.

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I have noticed that members are willing to talk about suspect cars more than before. Nice to see everyone looking out for one another. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

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That is a great thing https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

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The $$$ are what changed everything...

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Partly true; but the knowledge, honesty, integrity and comradery you see in the 'mainstays' of this site tend to root out the 'other faction' in this hobby/business.

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The $$$ are what changed everything...

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Partly true; but the knowledge, honesty, integrity and comradery you see in the 'mainstays' of this site tend to root out the 'other faction' in this hobby/business.

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That is for sure... It is refreshing to see that most of the people on here are willing to help the others in the hobby with honest answers.

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I inquired about the Black COPO Chevelle when it was for sale on this site. Ed was very upfront that the car was missing the hidden VINs and a donor was used.

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I inquired about the Black COPO Chevelle when it was for sale on this site. Ed was very upfront that the car was missing the hidden VINs and a donor was used.

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same with me

SS