zl1 aluminum heads,fresh 074s
 

a brand new fresh rebuilt set of 074s not your avreage set,these are mint and have NO welds or problems winters casting and nos gm valves and hardware used.ready to drop on! 2900.00 many other sets available starting at 1100.00 a set.

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What do you have for $1100.00?

Tony

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King,
Those 074's have any porting on them any where????? If not, I'll take them!
Peter

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PM SENT

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Thanks King. I'll give you a call tomorrow!
Peter

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Payment pending, thanks...

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Money went out yesterday Chuck..... and your pm box is full.
Peter

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ttt

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I always prefer to make personal issues private. However i feel the need here to make a post. While the intent of this added post is to create the appearance that unported heads were what was asked for,and not received,and no refund given. The fact of the matter is that closeup photos were emailed[receipt retained] clearly taken for the reason to show there was some porting and it was CLEARLY shown,due to your statement of saying if they were unported youd take them I wanted you to see them first before sending money. Followed up by a PM that "Chuck,pics look great" [receipt retained],and then a refund requested over 3 weeks later due to the heads being "ported". At which juncture,even though the heads were as shown in the photos a "better,comletely unported set" offered as replacement[or full money back if it couldnt be finalized as being in stock within 2,3 days as stated] was denied,it certainly would lead me to believe that either buyer remorse,bad economy,or a cheaper,better set was found and wiggle room was needed to return these and subsequently using friendships to strongarm me,requesting i be banned and not be allowed to tell this side of the story, is truly a shame. In any other circumsatnce,2 sides of a story are always welcomed,and discussions between the two parties INVOLVED preferred to a lynch mob ,for some reason one side was all that was needed. I am more than certain i did the right thing in offering a better set or a full refund,and would be happy with that had i been the buyer in the same circumstance. I always welcome to open dialogue[my email and phone are always open],at the same time i also expect the right to share my side.

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... I am more than certain i did the right thing in offering a better set or a full refund,and would be happy with that had i been the buyer in the same circumstance....

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So what is the problem? Since the heads were of no use to Pete (ported), simply refund his money. That's all he asked for, no more, no less.

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<font color="red">074s not your avreage set,these are mint </font>
mint: webster
adjective
new or in its original condition, as if freshly minted a postage stamp in mint condition


<font color="blue"> King,
Those 074's have any porting on them any where????? If not, I'll take them!
Peter
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Looks like a misleading add. I take it theses heads are NOT mint as stated. Everyone knows pete races stock and can not have any porting. He even said so.
Sounds like a refund is in order.
Why does he have to accept another set of heads from you?
are these the heads he should have received in the first place? Maybe,now, he does not want to deal with you any more?

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full money back if it couldnt be finalized

This part of Chucks post says he offered a refund. Unless I am reading it wrong. I would give Pete a full refund if it was me.

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Tom, Id certainly have no problem sending a refund upon return of the heads. I just want you to post unequivicaly that you received the info [pics emails]and are aware that Pete was told they were ported 5/8/08 via phone ,sent pics of the porting 5/9/08 email ,acknowledged that "Chuck,the pics look good, ill take them " of those areas 5/11/08 PM ,and then had the heads for over 3 1/2 weeks before contacting me [via phone]and refused a replacement upgrade. Up to now you keep posting the quote "ill take them if they arent ported" in refernce as final to the agreement between buyer and seller as if you arent aware of the info above i sent to a moderator.

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Chuck;
A. I have seen pictures of the heads you sent the moderator, with only one shot of the exhaust ports(s), which did not show much, yea or nea. The exhaust ports were the area of concern.
B. Pete did not have the heads for 3 1/2 weeks. They were sent to a friend in RI, who delievered them to Pete June 20 at the Fast race in Michigan. Upon inspection by himself and other "Factory Stock" racers", he told the guy to please return them to you, as they would be of no use to him.
C. according to Pete, you refused to offer a refund, nor other heads, you said you do not refund money and that you did not have a replacement set at that time, as these heads are hard to come by.
D. besides the porting, I believe the heads had larger valves/sets insatlled, which rules out "mint/virgin".

IMHO, you did not lie to Pete, but used the all too familiar Ebay tactic of wording things where one assumes things that are not so. Yes, we Pete should have asked more questions, and been more specific, but he thought he could trust another sYc member. From what I am hearing, he is not the first to fall victim to this type of creative wording.

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Offering a replacement or purchase price refund was never off the table at any point for the record,it was always a matter of which remedy,not no remedy.Period . I just wanted to be clear that you had all the facts straight . And now as i stated upon receiving heads in same condition a refund of 2900.00 purchase price will be issued as long as it is done in a timely fashion.

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.... And now as i stated upon receiving heads in same condition a refund of 2900.00 purchase price will be issued as long as it is done in a timely fashion.

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Cool...

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I always prefer to make personal issues private. However i feel the need here to make a post.

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Chuck, I did everything possible to keep this thing private. I tried phone calls and e-mails. I did tell one of the moderators off line I was having some issues with your heads because I wanted to avoid this.
First off, I made it clear from my first post "zero porting". I should'nt even need pix. I felt your word would be the enough.If you had mentioned porting, the conversation would have been over.
You shipped the heads in the States, and you knew I would'nt be recieving them for weeks.
I'm not having buyers remorse! I did not find a better set!
I just did not recieve what was promised and advertised.
You "no money back" policy sux!
All you had to do was agree to send the money back, and this would have been over.
Peter

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Heads received today. Pictures show a complete lack of respect for someones property. Heads are freewheeling in boxes and float 8 inches in every direction. I have not opened these yet.I dont know what condition they are in,you will need to take this up with whoever in RI shipped these,I can video tape the boxes being opened or refuse them from ups and have your shipper inspect them and resubmit them if they are in the same condition as received as clearly stated in my response above. Ive been without these heads for 5 weeks and get them sent back with 2 pieces of tape holding them together and no packaging inside. I will wait a response as to what your shipper wants to do about this complete negligence for a 3000.00 set of heads.The extra set of guide plates i sent along are all in the box banging around,a complete disregard for my property. This is disgusting.

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"a complete disregard for my property. This is disgusting."

I agree Chuck. I hope they are in the same condition as when they left your hands.

ttt
How much for a nice stock set of 840 heads? Dates really don't matter, as long as they're a matched set. I missed out on a rebuilt set of 840's that sold on ebay for $980.00.
My proxy bid was low by a few bucks. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...emlins/mad.gif I was out wake boarding. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif

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https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bs.gifChuck. Those heads are boxed in "thee" same boxes you shipped them in, with the same stuffing you put in the box. If your offer to meet the shipper half way in travel, you can unbox them in front of him. I't 45 minutes for both of you. He's looking forward to it.
Peter
How did I know this was going to end badly??! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif

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As the recipient of these heads, I have some thoughts on the subject.

1. The boxes used to return items to the seller are the original boxes he used to ship to me.
2. In my experience, shipping companies ie. UPS, DHL, Fedex, etc... are seldom gentile. Whether a package is "fragile" or not.
3. Any lack of "respectful" treatment for these items was NOT from me.


On a similar subject:
I recently sold a set of NOS 1964 Hemi K code heads $$$$ on Moparts.
When I shipped the set to the buyer in Little Canada, Minnesota, I did not use a cardboard sleeping bag box.

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I read Chucks concern as not the box itself but the way the heads were packaged within the box - "Heads are freewheeling in boxes and float 8 inches in every direction","The extra set of guide plates i sent along are all in the box banging around"

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Ive shipped parts for 26 years,no aluminum head or 20.00 part for that matter has EVER left here freewheeling 6 inches or better in all directions with absoluetly no regard for the contents.You stated on the phone today that "lets cut to the chase we are both car guys,these heads dont break" ,so why were you so concerned about your mopar heads packaging and not MY aluminum heads???Probably because you had no financial interest in them??Any story,blame, excuse or outside opinion on this doesnt warrant the way i received these heads.After my conversation with you today Chuck it was evident you werent happy being the middle man dragging these hgeads to Michigan after you received them,and then told to bring them back and then sending them back again here ,and the packaging shows that. All the contents tossed about with guide plates all clanging inside and im sure no interior packaging around thye heads just probably on the bottom[yes they were boxed within the box when sent and the heads were tight. .You also stated one box was bent in half when you received it,for one thing its funny that you remembered that now ,but didnt see a need to change the box before returning it. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/confused.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/confused.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/confused.gif Ill video tape the opening of the boxes,ive learned one thing from this post .Document EVERYTHING

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Chuck,
I can understand your frustration with this item sale. I assume that you have a good reputation as a supplier of these types of parts.
The haziness of what constitutes "stock" and/or "unported" caused these events. It seems you are misdirecting that frustration with a packaging issue.

It is very simple: https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/scholar.gif
IF the heads were what the buyer was expecting,
THEN we would go on with our lives never knowing each other existed.
You weren't concerned enough to figure out how to ship a heavy object properly. So now it is my responsibility? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/worship.gif
I never tire of doing favors for friends. Although you are right about "dragging" the heads back and forth. It was very inconvient finding a spot for them in a 48 foot trailer and the extra diesel we consumed added weight might raise the planets temperature.
Do you see what I am getting at here?
This is a joke.
People are dying of disease, famine, war and I have wasted enough time on this.

I am not into keyboard muscles.
If you have a problem with how the packaging looks, meet me in Old Saybrook and I will video tape you while you video tape the box opening. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/rolleyes.gif

Or call me on the phone. You have the number.

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I sold Chuck(427King) an air cleaner years back. He did not think it was as I described it and sent it back. He found a new box for the air cleaner and it came back to me packed much better that I had packed it. I thought I had it packed pretty darn well. Chuck took the extra effort to make sure I got the air cleaner back as delivered. Just my experience.


Jason

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I sold Chuck(427King) an air cleaner years back. He did not think it was as I described it and sent it back. He found a new box for the air cleaner and it came back to me packed much better that I had packed it. I thought I had it packed pretty darn well. Chuck took the extra effort to make sure I got the air cleaner back as delivered. Just my experience.


Jason

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Jason - you return parts for the big players but you forget all about the small guy? You screwed my brother over so damn bad with a Hurst shifter boot. The thing went for top dollar and you wouldn't even entertain a refund, not even if he ate the money to ship it back. My brother is a member here, paid at that, and even if we thought the description did not match the item it did not seem to matter...

I don't want to step on anyone's toes here, especially since I'm sticking my neck out, but let these guys settle their issues privately. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/scholar.gif Like Chuck (427king) said, enough of the outside commentary.

-Dan

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I bought a set of heads from him and they were exactly as described and very well packaged. I couldn't have been happier and would not hesitate to buy anything he has advertised. I recommend him as a source for quality original/NOS parts to anyone looking for something hard to find.

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I bought a set of heads from him and they were exactly as described and very well packaged. I couldn't have been happier and would not hesitate to buy anything he has advertised. I recommend him as a source for quality original/NOS parts to anyone looking for something hard to find.

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I don't know if you're talking about Jason or Chuck, but I have bought from both in the past with ease, which is why something as trivial as a shifter boot threw us for a loop. I am not bad mouthing him for not having top notch parts, thats most certainly not the case! His discounts for members are awesome too! I was just shocked he would not take care of his own, thats all.

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Bought the heads from Chuck...

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Dan,

I remember the shifter boot. Your brother was upset that he would have to drill new holes to get the boot to fit in his Nova. Of course he would, it was a Hurst Super Boot, not a stock replacement. If I told hom it would fit in the car without modification that would be a different story. I cannot take back every part someone want to sent back becuase they thought it would fit their car. Sorry to take the thread off topic.



Jason

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Hey Chuckie
It's about time you showed up. Yank the wheels on that Poncho https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/cool.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/burnout.gif

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So how did this end ??? Pete did you get your money back ? whats going on ? Been away a while with the kiddies.

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Still waiting the hear the results of the full length feature film! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif
Peter

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074s not your avreage set,these are mint
mint: webster
adjective
new or in its original condition, as if freshly minted a postage stamp in mint condition


King,
Those 074's have any porting on them any where????? If not, I'll take them!
Peter


Looks like a misleading add. I take it theses heads are NOT mint as stated. Everyone knows pete races stock and can not have any porting. He even said so.
Sounds like a refund is in order.


I myself think Chuck should be the one to go out of his way to resolve this issue and return Pete's Money....

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Any Resolution??..........As long as it became "Public" here.......I think "Interested" observers would like to know the outcome........... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/hmmm.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/hmmm.gif


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Somebody's "Credibility" is going away....... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/hmmm.gif

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Interesting...

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Going...or gone https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/smile.gif