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Copo_Cartel 06-29-2018 06:22 PM

Thank you John....they have had 2 platinum award winners the past 2 years at the Camaro Nationals .

Copo_Cartel 06-29-2018 06:23 PM

Dave McGaffee here in Columbus will do the drivetrain

Steve Shauger 06-29-2018 07:24 PM

Hey Doug what an interesting car you found.... I'm curious about the engine configuration. If I recall this car was delivered as a 4N 396-325 hp. I know Yenko installed a 427 shortblock, and believe they reused the heads 325hp heads. Since it 410hp was the L36 427-390hp shortblock used? What intake and carb.


The way it's opted and configured it seems this was somewhat tamer than the typical 67 Yenko. BTW I love the color, options, history and documentation.

Copo_Cartel 06-29-2018 08:09 PM

Steve I will have to ask The original owner what heads came on the car ... since you weren’t there and I wasn’t there that would be a great question to ask him but I guess you are assuming .... and if I hear you correctly you must think all of the automatic cars were only 390 horse .....But Yenko Chevrolet advertised them as 410 hp. No better person to ask than the original owner.....I will reach out to him...he usually gets off work at 5 pm and works in Latrobe ....if he doesn’t visit family...usually home by 5:15 pm.

ORIGLS6 06-29-2018 09:30 PM

Amazing car with uncommon options for a ' hi-performance' conversion. Gotta be one-of-a-kind! :beers::beers:
The Blue exterior/red interior wasn't all that uncommon in the early 60s. I've seen many Corvettes from 63 - 64 like that.


GREAT Find Doug ! :flag:

Copo_Cartel 06-29-2018 09:59 PM

Ok guys.... I just got off the phone and spoke to two people.... First being Warren Dernoshek... most everyone is familiar with him because he worked at Yenko Chevrolet.... his exact words were ....We advertised the cars at 450 hp for the solid lifter 4 spd. and 410 hp for the hydraulic automatic.....but we did not have a dyno...he went on to say ...we tuned the cars but had no way to get exact HP ratings. That is his recollection. Then I called the original owner....and he said that they tuned the car ...but reused the heads, intake, and carb.....so there you have it ....exact HP was not really known but it was advertised that way by Don Yenko...We all know he was a salesman for his performance cars.

John 06-29-2018 10:06 PM



… Doug, That is a great car you have there.

… Looking forward to seeing it's progress. :flag:

cook_dw 06-30-2018 12:55 AM

I wouldn’t consider this “tamer” than most 67 Yenkos. Especially it is known that the low end torque along with the other dealer installed options made it very competitive to its 4 speed solid lifter counter parts.

68l30 06-30-2018 02:40 AM

I look forward to learning more of the history of the 67 cars. Thankfully the first owner is around to share and help preserve the history on 760.

BIG

Copo_Cartel 06-30-2018 03:33 AM

I would assume when the original owner ordered the car with Doug headers...that there was an increased amount of power. The paperwork shows a set of the headers...we all understand the power pickup when you run thru the headers and not the mufflers...on my Rally Green Copo that we race regularly...we picked up 4 tenths at the track by going thru the headers.

bcmiller 06-30-2018 04:10 AM

I had the same questions as Steve. Thought it would have been a Yenko "410" car because the original 396/325 hp automatic cars were built that way. If they would have done the 427/425 hp short block, then they would have probably needed to upgrade the TH400 and/or at least the torque converter. I don't know of any cars this late that were originally 325 hp cars that were converted to 450. They may exist, but I have never heard on any.

It is the lower end or "tamer" version - but that is in NO WAY said with any disrespect. They still had more horsepower than an original L78. Any 67 Yenko is a rare find and you have a real gem there. Congrats!

cook_dw 06-30-2018 11:09 AM

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purple panther 06-30-2018 12:00 PM

Wasnt dick harrell doing the conversions from the middle of 1967 into 1968?

Copo_Cartel 06-30-2018 12:40 PM

I spoke to John the original owner this morning...he said during the conversion that Yenko went from the 396/325 camshaft to the 427/390 camshaft...that itself gave it .060 additional lift... then add the Doug headers....those 2 items by far surpasses the 410 HP . It helps to have the original owner to confirm info.
This car is an 06E build. And was the last 67 Camaro at the Yenko dealership .
John recalls Yenko ads offering the 427 Camaros. He went with his father in early March of 68 to purchase the car and waited 12 days for the conversion.

olredalert 06-30-2018 03:37 PM

----Wow! Those interior pieces are perfect. This Yenko is going to be amazing when done......Bill S

bcmiller 06-30-2018 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Copo_Cartel (Post 1406429)
I spoke to John the original owner this morning...he said during the conversion that Yenko went from the 396/325 camshaft to the 427/390 camshaft...that itself gave it .060 additional lift... then add the Doug headers....those 2 items by far surpasses the 410 HP . It helps to have the original owner to confirm info.
This car is an 06E build. And was the last 67 Camaro at the Yenko dealership .
John recalls Yenko ads offering the 427 Camaros. He went with his father in early March of 68 to purchase the car and waited 12 days for the conversion.

What was converted that late? It was already a 427 conversion.

Copo_Cartel 06-30-2018 05:18 PM

For the most part with all of the converted Yenko 67 cars....Don Yenko would not convert them until an order was agreed upon with a customer or network dealer or demo or if the car was sent directly to Harrell, Gibb Dana etc. Don was a Chevrolet dealer that advertised the 427 Camaro but was smart enough not to have several converted ( extra money) sitting on the lot . It was cheaper to wait for the guaranteed order. I know of other 06E cars treated in this manner .

Copo_Cartel 06-30-2018 05:24 PM

Conversions were done under the Yenko agreement by other dealers...Gibb, Harrell, Dana etc. they were not converted only at Yenko and then shipped....that would have been to costly. Howard Sober was a shipping company used to transport cars from GM directly to dealers for conversion...especially Dick Harrell

bcmiller 06-30-2018 06:50 PM

Yep the 396/325 hp cam is tiny (.398 lift) compared to the 427/390 hp cam (.461 lift).

bcmiller 06-30-2018 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Copo_Cartel (Post 1406453)
For the most part with all of the converted Yenko 67 cars....Don Yenko would not convert them until an order was agreed upon with a customer or network dealer or demo or if the car was sent directly to Harrell, Gibb Dana etc. Don was a Chevrolet dealer that advertised the 427 Camaro but was smart enough not to have several converted ( extra money) sitting on the lot . It was cheaper to wait for the guaranteed order. I know of other 06E cars treated in this manner .

Ok, but seems silly to have a previous model year 396 car sit on the lot unsold for that long. I would at least have thought it had the 427 conversion done and then the other goodies added later. But your docs say it was all done at the same time so you are most likely correct.

What’s the casting date on the block? Assembly date (year and month) of the short block is also usually stamped down on the starter flange area.

I am going to send you a pm. I have a 67 L35 M40 car with a VIN less than 300 from this car. Sold new at Bob Eriksen Chevrolet in Milan, IL. No docs on it but I suspect it was converted, just not sure by who. It’s an 07A Tahoe Turquoise, Black Deluxe Interior, console car.

Copo_Cartel 06-30-2018 10:02 PM

Most likely correct ? The docs support and the original owner that was there confirm the conversion and when it happened. Every car was not converted prior to an order taking place. I am aware of the casting date location ...it is D 18 7 and yes it is 2 plus months prior to build date. Engine cast is 351 . Was Eriksen a Yenko network dealer ??

Copo_Cartel 06-30-2018 10:10 PM

The original owner will be with me at a few shows ...he is a very honest trustworthy man.

bcmiller 06-30-2018 10:14 PM

Look, I am not arguing with you. Does it make sense to you that a 67 Camaro with a 396 would sit on the lot for 9 months? Just a question. Dealerships are there to sell cars! Not trying to cause problems. It’s a great car!!!

The period from summer of 67 into spring of 68 is confusing for me as far as Yenko details go. Quite a few 67s did not sell until into 68. What did Warren say about that? It’s probably explained in someone’s book but I haven’t found the right book.

Eriksen was a Yenko dealer - at least in 69 - but a can’t confirm for summer of 67. I checked, no docs on the car.

BOWTIE67327 06-30-2018 10:49 PM

I guess I just don't get it??? the car, history, paperwork etc speaks for itself why is there any second guessing?

Schonyenko2 07-01-2018 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by bcmiller (Post 1406476)
Look, I am not arguing with you. Does it make sense to you that a 67 Camaro with a 396 would sit on the lot for 9 months? Just a question. Dealerships are there to sell cars! Not trying to cause problems. It’s a great car!!!

The period from summer of 67 into spring of 68 is confusing for me as far as Yenko details go. Quite a few 67s did not sell until into 68. What did Warren say about that? It’s probably explained in someone’s book but I haven’t found the right book.

Eriksen was a Yenko dealer - at least in 69 - but a can’t confirm for summer of 67. I checked, no docs on the car.

I believe Mills Chevrolet was a Yenko dealer in 67 68. I know a 68 was crashed at the strip sold from Mills. In 70 Bob Ericksen was the Yenko dealer selling 1 deuce that we know of. I know of no 69 Yenko cars sold from any Quad cities dealers in 69.

Copo_Cartel 07-01-2018 12:51 AM

The car was very expensive prior to the conversion and a weird color combo .....I was told by Warren Dernoshek that the left over 67 cars were taken around back to a holding lot. And the original owner confirms that Don Yenko could not sell him a 68 Z ...because he told Don ...I want a Big Block ....so Don took him around back and showed him this 67 Yenko...the rest is history. Knowing the story of Don Yenko driving this car with a 19 year old kid is priceless...as well as Don was apart of the sell.

Copo_Cartel 07-01-2018 12:55 AM

I talked to (CRG) Kurt a few weeks ago and he confirmed that this is the only documented Nantucket blue with Red Deluxe gut at this time...but as I say ....another one will pop up

bcmiller 07-01-2018 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by BOWTIE67327 (Post 1406479)
I guess I just don't get it??? the car, history, paperwork etc speaks for itself why is there any second guessing?

Well - there is no second guessing. I told you I wasn’t here to cause problems.

JoeC 07-01-2018 11:54 AM

I did a lot of research on the 1967 Yenko Camaros.

I believe Don had some shipped from Chevy to a storage building in East St Louis near where Dick Harell had a small shop. I think 20 to 30 Camaros were sent there.

Howard Sober Inc was used for shipping and they had a terminal in East St Louis in this same area
They may have been shipped by rail from Chevy as there are rail yards in this area.

Dick Harrell was sending the conversion paperwork to Yenko and it got saved in the old Yenko files later found by Warren D.

Many of these cars were special order or fleet orders with the "dash" trim tag

Not all of the cars were converted as at least one 1967 SS 375hp Camaro was sold by Yenko Chevy and the new owner went to pick it up at a St Louis storage facility well after the 1968 Camaros were on the lot.

When I looked through Warren's paperwork, it showed most of the St Louis cars had 427 conversion, headers, scattershield, gauges, traction bars, hood pins, High Temp ign. wires installed . Not many had fiberglass hoods installed.

Maybe this car was sent to Yenko Chev from the St. Louis storage facility?
would be interesting to compare the trim tag data with other known Yenko Camaros.

Copo_Cartel 07-01-2018 03:21 PM

Thank you Joe C for the great information.... during the conversion from March 4 1968 until March 16, 1968 ....John the original owner was just 19 years old .... and having to wait 12 days for the process to take place was an eternity to a 19-year-old kid. This car/ Documentation is full disclosure from the beginning...I want to honor the car and original owner as they should be. Please call or email me and I can forward you the trim tag photo for your files. It does have the dash - after the 4N on the TT
Doug 614-203-1272. [email protected]

Copo_Cartel 07-01-2018 03:58 PM

JoeC.....of the 108 list ...are there any known YS numbers after 760 ...that you are aware of .....documented....at this time I haven’t seen YS 761 .

396L35 07-01-2018 05:41 PM

Great find and cant wait to see it.

cook_dw 07-01-2018 08:10 PM

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68camaroz28 07-01-2018 10:56 PM

Wow, I'm impressed with this Camaro! Congratulations! And the interior parts look amazing after cleaning/detailing.

cook_dw 07-01-2018 11:06 PM

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R68GTO 07-02-2018 12:01 AM

Interesting that they called the body color Marina Blue. I assume the trim tag code shows Nantucket?

cook_dw 07-02-2018 12:23 AM

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