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Unreal 08-31-2021 07:57 PM

Shelby GT-S
 
I know this is a forum, mostly about vintage Shelbys, but I thought I'd post anyway,
I just purchased a 2019 Shelby Sixt 6-speed convertible. Sixt is the largest rental car company in the world, but is largely unknown in the US. The collaboration between Shelby and Sixt was to attempt to enter the high performance rental arena, and to also improve brand recognition. Shelby made 20 automatic coupes with 600hp, for rental in LA, Las Vegas, Miami, and Fort Lauderdale. They made one 6 speed convertible with 700+ hp (one guy at Shelby estimates 760hp) It is serial # 0001, and was used initially for promotion, and then, I am told, was used by the CEO of Sixt. I have contacted Sixt to confirm.

The selling Ford dealer tried to represent it as one of one, and technically, it is, but I did not pay a premium over any other late model Shelby GT convertible, which are fairly rare.

Nonetheless, I'm still curious what others think about its value, now and future. I know it took a long time for the hobby to recognize the Shelby GT350 H as an equal, and I expect the same may be true for the Shelby GT-S.

I welcome any comments, positive or negative.

AnthonyS 08-31-2021 08:10 PM

Interesting. Did you pull a Marti Report?

tom406 08-31-2021 09:15 PM

Shelby SIXT
 
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My buddy rented a coupe from SIXT for us to drive in 2019-lots of fun:)

Lynn 08-31-2021 10:43 PM

I would not try to factor in future value. A car is not an investment 99% of the time.

Yeah, everyone can point to a few cars that really paid off over time. Most did not. Even a ZL1 purchased new in 1969 for $10k would struggle to keep up with investments.

Future value is a crap shoot.
I remember guys paying double sticker price for 1976 Cadillac Eldo Convertibles, because there were supposedly the "last American Convertible."

That would be a bit over $22k. If you put that $22k into the a conservative investment, such as a Dow index fund, by 2020 it would be about $605k. Think you can get that for your 76 Eldo?

Also, if you are going to look at the "real" cost of your investment, you must deduct every dime you spend on it. Insurance, repairs, maintenance.

So back to the ZL1. $10k invested in a Dow index fund would today be about $764k.
The ZL1 is looking pretty good... until you factor in the cost of keeping it (garage space isn't free) the cost of operating it, and maintaining it, and the cost to insure it for all those years. Not looking so good now.

AnthonyS 08-31-2021 10:46 PM

^ well said!

Unreal 08-31-2021 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by AnthonyS (Post 1561487)
Interesting. Did you pull a Marti Report?

No, but I contacted Shelby American with the VIN and Shelby serial number, prior to purchase. They confirmed authenticity, and filled in some of the blanks as to why all the promo literature said 20 coupes, and yet there was 1 convertible. It also sat in their Heritage Museum for awhile, before going to Manheim. Once shipment is complete, I'll call Shelby to get a copy of the Shelby invoice. I also have a print of the Ford invoice, but would like to get a better one. I also contacted Sixt executive offices to try to get a statement from the CEO, but I'm skeptical that I'll hear anything back. But you never know!

Unreal 08-31-2021 11:39 PM

Lynn, I totally agree with you. I didn't buy it as an investment, I bought it as a toy, to drive for fun, nothing else.

I said I was curious, as to what others thought about a relatively unknown rental company collaboration with Shelby. According to Shelby, the trial is complete, and there are no plans to build any more. I suspect it will never be any more valuable than any other similar Shelby GT, and probably not do as well as the late model Shelby GT-H.

I did not buy it as part of my retirement plan. Rather I was able to buy it because of my retirement plan.

Again, I'm just curious.

ruralrte66 09-01-2021 12:24 AM

Yes Lynn, So true, I have said that for years, if I would have just put the money away in (something) a account what would it be today. But as life goes on your ideas change. Just my 2 cents.

Gregg

Lynn 09-01-2021 12:30 AM

And I wasn't slamming your decision to buy. Too many guys see the million dollar muscle car and think they can "invest" in something that will really pay off for them.

I buy cars that I like to drive. If it happens to hold its value, or even appreciate, so be it. I didn't buy any of them as investments.

Looks like a really fun car. Enjoy the heck out of it.

dykstra 09-08-2021 11:36 AM

Super cool car! Congrats. I had no idea of Sixt rental company. Thanks for posting.

olredalert 09-08-2021 02:33 PM

----I have been renting practicly new Mercedes from SIXT for a while now. No more expensive than a lot of other rental companies. Of course, right now all bets are off!.....Bill S

AzSideWinder 09-27-2021 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Unreal (Post 1561485)
I know this is a forum, mostly about vintage Shelbys, but I thought I'd post anyway,
I just purchased a 2019 Shelby Sixt 6-speed convertible. Sixt is the largest rental car company in the world, but is largely unknown in the US. The collaboration between Shelby and Sixt was to attempt to enter the high performance rental arena, and to also improve brand recognition. Shelby made 20 automatic coupes with 600hp, for rental in LA, Las Vegas, Miami, and Fort Lauderdale. They made one 6 speed convertible with 700+ hp (one guy at Shelby estimates 760hp) It is serial # 0001, and was used initially for promotion, and then, I am told, was used by the CEO of Sixt. I have contacted Sixt to confirm.

The selling Ford dealer tried to represent it as one of one, and technically, it is, but I did not pay a premium over any other late model Shelby GT convertible, which are fairly rare.

Nonetheless, I'm still curious what others think about its value, now and future. I know it took a long time for the hobby to recognize the Shelby GT350 H as an equal, and I expect the same may be true for the Shelby GT-S.

I welcome any comments, positive or negative.

I was searching online. I just purchased number 3 car. :cool2:
Im also wondering where it fits in history. The thing is if it has any value it wont be a for a very long time. The best you can hope for it is holds its value. I bought a 2013 GT500 new paid 65k for it, today is worth close to the same as new.
Thats is what is cool about the cat. Mines the 10 speed auto, Im not a huge fan of that tranny. Hoping to work out a few bugs. Trying to understand what tune is in it now or where it can be had.
Id like to know all the owners in this series.
The best thing also is regardless of what its worth down the line, it is unique, genuine and should totally increase in value.

Unreal 10-03-2021 06:29 AM

I purchased my convertible (CSM19SXT0001) from Crater Lake Ford, Medford, Oregon. They also had a Black/orange stripe coupe for sale. Is that the one you purchased?

All 20 coupes are automatics, and utilize the Edelbrock/Shelby blower, configured to 600+ hp. The convertible is a 6 speed, and utilizes the Roush-Ford Performance/Shelby blower, configured to 700+hp. Not sure why they used two different superchargers, as I understand the Edelbrock/Shelby one can be re-configured for up to 1000hp, although I think stronger half-shafts are recommended. I would worry about upping mine as I'm not sure the Getrag MT82-D4 could handle it. I think the 10 speed auto would handle it, easily. I'll bet yours was programmed to limit top end speed, since it was in Sixt's rental fleet. Since mine was driven by the CEO, Sebastian Birkel, I don't know it it did or not, but I'll never test it out!

I was told by a Shelby employee, that mine actually puts out more like 760hp, and, after driving it for a couple of weeks, that is plenty of horsepower for me, so I would not consider having it reconfigured.

One other thing, if you are interested, I had a problem getting proper insurance for mine. My regular insurance company, State Farm, wanted to insure it as an regular Mustang GT, based on the VIN, meaning it would be way, way underinsured. I ended up getting Haggerty Agreed Value, at my purchase price, although it took almost a week for underwriting to approve it. I've had Haggerty for my 69 Yenko Tribute for 20+ years, with no claims. Not sure if that had anything to do with getting it approved.

As for future value, who knows? If mine holds its value, or goes up, great. If its value drops like a rock, that's OK, too, as I bought it to enjoy. My advice is, enjoy it, but take care of it, and let the chips fall where they may.

rmarks 01-08-2022 01:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unreal (Post 1561485)
I just purchased a 2019 Shelby Sixt 6-speed convertible. Sixt is the largest rental car company in the world, but is largely unknown in the US. The collaboration between Shelby and Sixt was to attempt to enter the high performance rental arena, and to also improve brand recognition. Shelby made 20 automatic coupes with 600hp, for rental in LA, Las Vegas, Miami, and Fort Lauderdale. They made one 6 speed convertible with 700+ hp (one guy at Shelby estimates 760hp) It is serial # 0001, and was used initially for promotion, and then, I am told, was used by the CEO of Sixt. I have contacted Sixt to confirm.

The selling Ford dealer tried to represent it as one of one, and technically, it is, but I did not pay a premium over any other late model Shelby GT convertible, which are fairly rare.

Nonetheless, I'm still curious what others think about its value, now and future. I know it took a long time for the hobby to recognize the Shelby GT350 H as an equal, and I expect the same may be true for the Shelby GT-S.

I welcome any comments, positive or negative.



Unreal,

Sounds like a nice one. If you ever decide you want to sell your car, please let me know as I have been looking for a Shelby GT convertible.

Rich

Unreal 01-08-2022 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by rmarks (Post 1577765)
Unreal,
I have been looking for a Shelby GT convertible.

Rich

As I normally do with any major purchase, I have kept looking ever since I purchased mine. Sometimes, I find one that makes me wish I had waited, but in this case, I reconfirmed that I made the right move.

When I was looking, there was a red one with the roadster tonneau, for about the same money, but other than that, the only convertibles I've seen in the last 4 months were Super Snakes, or Signature Series, and they are all in the $130-$160 range. Most are automatics.
There is one GT-H non-supercharged automatic, for $107 which has been for sale for 5-6 months. Not sure why it's not selling.

Lots of Roush Mustangs, in the $65K range ($85K for new ones) again, mostly automatics.

Bottom line, not many late model Shelby GT convertible, high horse, 6 speeds coming up for sale. You could always commission one. Or spring for the 800+hp Super Snake or Signature. Don't wait for mine, as when the time comes to sell, I promised it to my son. :)

Unreal 05-24-2022 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unreal (Post 1577874)
As I normally do with any major purchase, I have kept looking ever since I purchased mine. Sometimes, I find one that makes me wish I had waited, but in this case, I reconfirmed that I made the right move.

When I was looking, there was a red one with the roadster tonneau, for about the same money, but other than that, the only convertibles I've seen in the last 4 months were Super Snakes, or Signature Series, and they are all in the $130-$160 range. Most are automatics.
There is one GT-H non-supercharged automatic, for $107 which has been for sale for 5-6 months. Not sure why it's not selling.

Lots of Roush Mustangs, in the $65K range ($85K for new ones) again, mostly automatics.

Bottom line, not many late model Shelby GT convertible, high horse, 6 speeds coming up for sale. You could always commission one. Or spring for the 800+hp Super Snake or Signature. Don't wait for mine, as when the time comes to sell, I promised it to my son. :)

There's a 2019 GT-H Supercharged 6 speed for sale on Autotrader.com for $105K. Virtual twin to mine, except for gold wheels and gold stripes. Mine has polished black wheels, and flat black stripes over black paint.

Also, I want to collect a data base of GT-S owners, so if you own a Shelby Sixt, and want to participate, PM me.

L_e_e 05-24-2022 05:45 PM

PM sent.

flyingn 05-24-2022 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by AnthonyS (Post 1561487)
Interesting. Did you pull a Marti Report?

too new for a Marti

AnthonyS 05-24-2022 08:54 PM

^ yes, certainly... but not by much!


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