Okay , i see what you did there. Not quite the same .
:hmmm:
oh no
no
No F'n Way !
say what ?
omg
:faint:

Rats Nest race car is Wicked and Wild
now its a bona-fide bull fighter !

... but Red
whats this about 427 - 4 speed

typo ?

or is hate about to take on a new dimension here :p

Owner #6 bought it as a roller, no engine or trans. He owned a 69 Camaro convertible with an automatic. He wanted a 4 speed in his vert, so he swapped the pedals and related stuff into his convertible and put the auto stuff in this car. This swap took place in the late '70's I think.
Rat's Nest is an original 4 speed car - 2nd owner's racing partner said it had a rock crusher in it when his buddy bought it with around 1,000 miles on the odometer. They raced it that way. At one point they trashed the tranny - had Doug Nash rebuild it with stronger internals is the story they gave me.

Radiator #3017838 originally came on only:
*1968 & 1969 Novas with TH400.
*1970 Novas 396 with Auto Trans.
*1969 Camaros with TH400,but not when Heavy Duty cooling or Air Conditioning was ordered.

Awesome, just stinking awesome. Congratulations.

Damn
so you go out and find a Clean Solid Shiny low mile COPO with Peachy original interior thats been garage kept for at least the past 35 years.
Still has some form of 427 in it , running and driving , street legal.
You wanted a 4spd car but compromising on an Automatic.

The owner cant convince himself that it has hardly any chance of being a COPO , so you likely get a pretty handsome deal.
And thats all really sweet stuff.

Then its LeMans Blue, double bonus
Then its Faktry 4 speed possibly M22, quadruple bonus

We've been posting alongside on PY/Ames Pontiac Forum for many years,
so don't take this too personal,
but i'm going to need to hate you for at least 24 hours-maybe 48.

yep Congratulations
Damn

We've been posting alongside on PY/Ames Pontiac Forum for many years,
so don't take this too personal,
but i'm going to need to hate you for at least 24 hours-maybe 48.

LOL, not a problem, my Pontiac Brutha! I'm sure if I post something over on the PY site, I'll get "flamed" for buying a "Crapmaro" as some like to say over there.

I do kinda feel like I hit the "car guy lottery" with this one. I am a Pontiac guy mostly but have always liked all makes/models - really just a car guy, no politics, BS, etc.
I'm not going to try to make this car into something it's not, it's far from being a "survivor" / "numbers matching" or any of those other terms people like to throw out there to talk a car up. Having said that, it does have some great attributes beyond the COPO status which I will post about along the way on this thread. I'm sure I'll make some mistakes along the way since I'm still learning, but I hope the knowledgeable people on this site :youguysrock:will help me out when that happens.

Where are we at now?
 

Aside from what I already posted, here's some other info on the car.
Body: Original body panels date stamped to line up with build date. I can't find a date stamp on driver's fender. I can't read the date stamp on the trunk lid.
Quarter gills & wheel opening trim added by owner #6 when he painted it its current black/gold stripe paint scheme. Owner #7 added the drip rail moulding. Owner #2 added the spoilers.

Interior: Original interior (including carpet) except for dash pad. Owner #7 replaced the pad (bought at GM dealership) when he removed the pedestal tach that was bolted through it.

Engine: VIN stamped 427 "942" block cast in October of 1965. Owner #6 rebuilt it to L88 specs with hyd. lifters. Said he pulled it out of an Impala SS. 840 heads, 163 intake, List 4295 GM Holley carb (factory original, not a reman). Aftermarket distributor (Accel) and alternator (Powermaster).

Transmission: CM Turbo 400 built with a reverse manual valve body by owner #6. I think this codes out to a motorhome trans!:headbang: Should have a M22 Rockcrusher according to owner #2.

Rear end: original multi-leaf setup with vintage Lakewood traction bars & driveshaft loop. PE (so close, but yet so far!) code 10 bolt posi. Owner #8 (the guy I bought the car from) didn't like the 4.10 unit so he swapped a guy for this rear. Keep in mind, this guy drove the car a total of 3,500 miles in 35 years! Why on earth would you feel compelled to swap out the rear for drivability:no:! I do have a lead on where it went, but it's a weak lead, we'll see.
Here's some photos of seats and door panels. Enjoy!

Made it through the 48 hour LeMans Blue 4spd COPO hate period.

Engine sounds like a worthy keeper. Congratulations
That interior stuff is NICE !
Sorry about the axle deal. Those things sure have some proud prices on them. Good Luck

Rats Nest was a semi-popular nickname.
Found a few others -
69 Camaro X22 - Missouri - Brent396 owns it now
68 Nova COPO - Missouri
Mid 50's Vette

And saw where Black with Gold stripes was the original 69 Camaro ZL-1 pilot/proto paint scheme.


Keep the updates rolling
You and the Dynamic Duo found in Cali have the front center stage

Rats Nest was a semi-popular nickname.

Yeah, but do they have the legit evidence to back it up?:haha:

And saw where Black with Gold stripes was the original 69 Camaro ZL-1 pilot/proto paint scheme.

Now why did you have to tell me that? I am already confused enough on what to do with the car....return it to 1972 Rat's Nest trim, restore back to original, sell it, and now ZL-1 pilot clone!:confused2: