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John 08-22-2022 01:20 PM


... You are another True Car Guy !

... :flag::flag::flag:


Too Many Projects 08-22-2022 01:41 PM

And the story just keeps going. So nice of you to share the car with the former owner like that.
You've done a super job on, not only the restoration, but acquiring the history. Hopefully not for some time, but the next owner is going to benefit greatly from all you have done for this car and it's heritage.

R68GTO 08-28-2022 12:47 AM

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More ownership history work completed today. I took the car to Chillicothe, Ohio where 4 prior owners or family members (owner deceased) reside. Then headed over to Lynchburg, Ohio to meet up with the son and wife of the second owner (Doug Davis). Doug is the guy that created Rat's Nest. It was a good day. In order from most recent owner/family to earliest. One owner family member (3rd owner had to cancel)
John Taylor - owned the car from 1981 to 1982 and sold it to DJ Justice who was the guy I bought it from in the prior post.
Terry Walley (deceased in 2018, represented by his wife Laura)
Ralph Willis (deceased in 2021, represented by his daughter Brandy, stepson Chad, and son in law Richard)
Doug Davis (deceased in 2006, represented by his wife Judy and son Denny)

Copo_Cartel 08-28-2022 03:32 AM

Jim ...your passion reaches beyond cars but also to the heart and souls of the families. Congratulations.

Xplantdad 08-28-2022 02:16 PM

Doug, agreed! So cool :biggthumpup:

R68GTO 08-28-2022 10:47 PM


Originally Posted by Copo_Cartel (Post 1599111)
Jim ...your passion reaches beyond cars but also to the heart and souls of the families. Congratulations.

There was definitely some emotions flowing yesterday, especially for those representing the owners that are deceased. I was happy to bring a little joy to them in the form of an old muscle car their loved ones enjoyed very much.

R68GTO 08-28-2022 10:57 PM

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Aside from the human interest happenings yesterday, I got to see a few new snaps of the car from back in the day. 3 new ones from John Taylor in the '81/82 timeframe, and one from shortly after Ralph Willis bought the car ('77/78 timeframe), dropped a drivetrain in it and went racing. According to the guy in the car in the pic, this pic was taken right after they got back from National Trails in Columbus. He said the car had Fenton Super Sharks on it at the time.

RPOLS3 08-29-2022 02:49 PM


dykstra 09-07-2022 10:02 AM

Way cool!!! What a great story. Love the history of these old cars.

R68GTO 10-23-2022 01:20 AM

Ya like pics right?
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Took Rat's Nest back to it's home track from the early '70's early this morning to catch the sunrise lighting on the vintage track sign. Enjoy!!

R68GTO 10-23-2022 01:22 AM

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Here's some more pics at another local spot to catch the sunset lighting.

Xplantdad 10-24-2022 01:17 PM

Very nice!!:cool2:

olredalert 10-24-2022 02:55 PM

----Great pics of a great car!....Bill S

RPOLS3 10-26-2022 01:39 PM

Love this car.

turbo69bird 12-08-2022 03:58 AM

The car looks great! So happy to see it done.

R68GTO 12-10-2022 03:59 PM

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Well, they're never really "done" are they:dunno:
Sold off my survivor jack and restored/installed a date code correct jack for the car. Not than anyone ever sees it, but I know it's right now:grin:

169indy 12-10-2022 05:48 PM

^^ Very true words, they are never finished & Dan B & I Joke like referring to the hidden correct jack,,,,,,,"I can See it from HERE!".
Nice job

R68GTO 12-11-2022 05:06 PM

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Another post from the "you're never done" archive....I was never quite sure what my speedo setup was supposed to look like - reducer/no reducer so I just had my original to the car cable plugged right into the trans. At MCACN, I spent quite a bit of time and took quite a few photos of Doug Perry's black low mile L78. It has the same trans/rear combo as mine and was obviously original, so I went out and found a 90 degree adapter and installed it. Also removed my speedo clip and added some dumdum over the hole just like Doug's car. My adapter isn't the correct part, but at least it now looks somewhat correct. If anyone has the correct 1:.777reducer (6476735) that you're willing to part with let me know. I know they're tough to find but I might be willing to part with some cash for the right one.
Thanks Doug P. for bringing the car into the public view, it's stuff like this that keeps us hobbyists going with new things to work on!

turbo69bird 12-15-2022 06:35 PM

You know there no way you’re ever putting that car back to stock right? That car looks way too good the way it is
Curious about the gas tank was it blacked out back in the day as well?

Or does it just look that way in that last group of pictures? Answered my own question on this one w post 450 must just be a reflection of the asphalt

Kurt S 12-21-2022 01:54 PM

Are you sure it had the same trans as yours? Meaning the same part # on the trans tag?

You can't go by physical appearances. There were two different speedo drive gear sizes and hence two different part #'s for each trans model. I've seen the same trans model and axle ratio have and not have the adaptor.

R68GTO 12-22-2022 09:34 PM

Kurt, no I am not sure. I was unaware of the different part number vs just M22 vs M21.
The trans in my car is not the original, I only "know" it was M22 from the guy that was the 2nd owners racing partner back in 1971. He was in the internals of the trans multiple times over the 4 years they raced it. Still not proof-positive, but the best I have.
I was hoping the speedo cable code thread over at CRG would verify trans/speedo adapter, but it seems that CW (my cable code) was used in multiple applications. CW is the code on Doug P.'s build sheet for that survivor L78 with M22 / 4.10 rear.

turbo69bird 01-03-2023 09:55 PM

Curious was your m22 pro shifted? My M21 was dumped for M20 internals for the wider ratio and pro shifted.

R68GTO 01-03-2023 10:43 PM

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I believe it was "pro shifted" by Doug Nash BITD. Way back in post 140 I shared a story told by Doug's son about Doug Nash coming to his house when he was a kid. The car also sported a Doug Nash "ProShift" sticker on the upper front fender just ahead of the Hayes sticker. It took me a while to ID that sticker and even longer to find a pair of originals to put back on the car!

turbo69bird 01-03-2023 11:12 PM


Originally Posted by R68GTO (Post 1610255)
I believe it was "pro shifted" by Doug Nash BITD. Way back in post 140 I shared a story told by Doug's son about Doug Nash coming to his house when he was a kid. The car also sported a Doug Nash "ProShift" sticker on the upper front fender just ahead of the Hayes sticker. It took me a while to ID that sticker and even longer to find a pair of originals to put back on the car!

Thatís awesome, youíll know if the one in there is pro shifted itíll bang hard in and out of gear . Even when idling through the pitts or around the block . Any shift is an agressive bang .

turbo69bird 01-03-2023 11:45 PM

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For those who arenít familiar with pro shifted trans missions hereís some info. Kinda long winded but gets the point across.

Hereís a pic of a pro shifted gear

Faceplates is a little different , but works kinda the same way

R68GTO 02-24-2023 11:23 PM

A little more owner history
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Terry Walley (L) & Ralph Willis (R). These two guys were friends and both were prior owners of my COPO. I spoke to each of them after I purchased the car, but sadly, they both passed away before I could get the finished car to them. Both raced the car on weekends. Terry raced it in the red/white/blue Rat's Nest paint scheme sans stickers. Ralph raced it in the black/gold paint scheme that he applied in the late 70's.

turbo69bird 03-05-2023 04:34 PM

That’s cool info on the previous drivers good job locating all that info . My RAIV bird has been tough to find owners. I found info on the first owner after the dealer recently but his wife had recently passed and the house sold can’t find where he’s gone after . It’s a really nice thing to find the trail at least though.(lived 14 minutes from CT dragway , about 2 as a crow flies) Too bad those guys (that raced yours) didn’t get to see it finished.
When I was putting the RAV engine in my car that Stephens raced in pro stock one guy was really interested as his freind had owned it for many years but never run it. He passed away the weekend I got it running in the car . It’s a shame when stuff like that happens .

Good job preserving that car though and I’m really happy you made it the race car. It’s a great car either way but the interesting history of the car is its race heritage IMO. All those weekends at the track each a story in itself anyone who has raced a car for many years understands every weekend of racing has a story. Such a great car and such a good job restoring it and sharing it with us.

R68GTO 03-05-2023 11:21 PM

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Finally dug out the only photo I have of Doug Davis (lower left) who created Rats Nest. This scan is from his photo album along with photos of the A990 Hemi lightweight he and Rick Wilkin campaigned in the mid-60's.

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