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Rick99 03-05-2017 07:14 PM

Special Paint
 
Does a car having a special paint (--) trim tag add any significant value to the car?

olredalert 03-05-2017 07:22 PM

----Others may disagree but I dont think so. It does allow you to paint then car any color you want to though!!!......Bill S

marxjunk 03-05-2017 07:53 PM

i doubt it too..

just depends on what the colors is and if its a special car like a brass hat or special zone car for display or a movie

people want special things..like the "only one" so that could be a factor

Rick99 03-05-2017 09:09 PM

Thanks Bill and Mark for your replies. What about a Z/28 or SS stripe delete car?

marxjunk 03-05-2017 09:48 PM

everyone wants stripes..and tachs and buckets etc..so stripe delete is cool, but flash sells

njsteve 03-05-2017 10:09 PM

I think for situations where a color (like black) wasn't available that year and only a handful can be documented as being special ordered in black (like my old 1972 Formula 455HO Firebird that they made two customer ordered cars in black), it certainly does. It was around a 30% bump in value when I sold it as compared to a standard color.

Mr. Chevy 03-05-2017 11:24 PM

My friend's 70 Chevelle has that. The car was originally citrus green..

Rich

442w30 03-06-2017 02:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by olredalert (Post 1343964)
---- It does allow you to paint then car any color you want to though!!!......Bill S

I disagree – I find that no different than repainting a Fathom Green car Hugger Orange.

That being said, while I'm not a wheeler/dealer, I do think a special-order color can add value....but only to the right person.

Kurt S 03-06-2017 03:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 442w30 (Post 1344041)
That being said, while I'm not a wheeler/dealer, I do think a special-order color can add value....but only to the right person.

Agreed. A unique color (especially with a good story) will attract some people.

RST 03-06-2017 05:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by njsteve (Post 1344001)
I think for situations where a color (like black) wasn't available that year and only a handful can be documented as being special ordered in black (like my old 1972 Formula 455HO Firebird that they made two customer ordered cars in black), it certainly does. It was around a 30% bump in value when I sold it as compared to a standard color.

100% Agree :)

ds1 03-06-2017 09:28 AM

Dana Mecum thinks so. He has been trying to sell his Carolina Blue 1969 Z28 for WAY more than market value

Jeff H 03-06-2017 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by njsteve (Post 1344001)
I think for situations where a color (like black) wasn't available that year and only a handful can be documented as being special ordered in black (like my old 1972 Formula 455HO Firebird that they made two customer ordered cars in black), it certainly does. It was around a 30% bump in value when I sold it as compared to a standard color.

Steve, does PHS have the data on the Pontiac special paint cars showing the numbers? That would probably add value if there is proof that x number of cars had a certain non standard color.

TimG 03-06-2017 02:44 PM

We had a 1973 Corvette from Hory Chevrolet painted black and documented on the build sheet that way. That added value.

Big Block Bill 03-06-2017 03:01 PM

Special Paint code
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by olredalert (Post 1343964)
----Others may disagree but I dont think so. It does allow you to paint then car any color you want to though!!!......Bill S

Wouldn't a - on a trim tag represent the vehicle left the factory it was produced at a non-production color, such as the Spring colors available on a 1970 442 like Nugget gold? I used to work on a Post Sedan W-30, 4-speed, bench seat cat that left the factory in Nugget Gold. That car had a - on the trim tag, but someone had re-painted it a dark brown metallic. We did some detective / exploring and found parts of the original color in hidden areas.

Bill

442w30 03-06-2017 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Block Bill (Post 1344089)
Wouldn't a - on a trim tag represent the vehicle left the factory it was produced at a non-production color, such as the Spring colors available on a 1970 442 like Nugget gold?

Nugget Gold and the three other extra-cost colors for Olds A-bodies are just that – extra-cost. They are not "non-production."

Big Block Bill 03-07-2017 01:09 AM

Special Paint code
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 442w30 (Post 1344098)
Nugget Gold and the three other extra-cost colors for Olds A-bodies are just that – extra-cost. They are not "non-production."

But those what I called "Spring Colors" did not have a code resulting in a - on the trim tag, I guess a non-standard would be a better wording.

Bill

442w30 03-07-2017 06:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Block Bill (Post 1344181)
But those what I called "Spring Colors" did not have a code resulting in a - on the trim tag, I guess a non-standard would be a better wording.

No worries....even Olds people call them "special-order" colors because that's what it says in the catalog back in the day. But all 4 colors were RPO, so I tend to lean towards the other side of the semantics.

Don't quote me on this, but I'm relatively sure there are instances when these 4 colors received the proper color code. Certainly it's an example how Oldsmobile was a unique company, just like all of GM's decentralized brands, and they each operated a little differently. But I don't have the answer to this, so it's just speculation.

Tracker1 03-07-2017 11:03 AM

A - - 1969 Camaro will certainly be more valuable if the car was Tuxedo Black.

Big Block Bill 03-07-2017 12:27 PM

Special Paint
 
Especially if it was documented as leaving the Factory Black.

Bill

L78M22Rag 03-07-2017 04:16 PM

I think you hit the nail on the head. Documentation or clear evidence of the original special paint color, and being a desirable color, would make the vehicle unique and more valuable.

I don't agree that the - - is simply a license to paint the car any color and represent it as a rare special paint car.

Lee Stewart 03-14-2017 11:40 PM

http://s26.postimg.org/vg9w1l4a1/image.jpg


Speaking of Special Paint cars, this 1968 Chevelle SS 396 in Pontiac's Verdoro Green is coming to auction this May (Mecum Indy)

markinnaples 03-15-2017 02:19 PM

WOW, was never much of a fan of those dark greens, but I love that '68 Chevelle.

Lee Stewart 03-15-2017 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by markinnaples (Post 1345400)
WOW, was never much of a fan of those dark greens, but I love that '68 Chevelle.

Have you seen this 1968 Camaro SS396?

http://s26.postimg.org/6ku8jblrd/ch1015_224565_1.jpg


http://s26.postimg.org/dcknm6aqx/ch1015_224565_3.jpg

PeteLeathersac 03-15-2017 03:54 PM

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WOW and love to see/hear more of that '68 Camaro also hoping it's an L78!
Is it Vedero Green or maybe Boxwood Green...or something else yet?
:beers:
~ Pete

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Lee Stewart 03-15-2017 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PeteLeathersac (Post 1345411)
'

WOW and love to see/hear more of that '68 Camaro also hoping it's an L78!
Is it Vedero Green or maybe Boxwood Green...or something else yet?
:beers:
~ Pete

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It's a Special Paint Vedoro Green 1968 Camaro L78 SS396 with an M22 and . . . a front bench seat:

https://www.mecum.com/lots/CH1015-22...let-camaro-ss/

Lee Stewart 03-15-2017 04:53 PM

http://s26.postimg.org/smkitd695/image.jpg


How about a Special Paint: Vedoro Green 1969 Camaro RS/SS350 Convertible:

https://www.mecum.com/lots/CH0911-11...s-convertible/

Born30YrsLate 03-15-2017 05:29 PM

The Evening Orchid 1969 Z28 Camaro seemed to command a premium due to the special order color.
https://www.mecum.com/lots/PA0715-22...et-camaro-z28/

markinnaples 03-15-2017 06:32 PM

Lee, you're the VG King. Out of all of those, that '68 Chevelle sticks out the most to me, but the others are sweet as well.
It just seems to me that you just don't see that many '68 Chevelles in great condition in comparison to the more popular 66/67 and 69/70 models.

CamarosRus 03-15-2017 06:44 PM

What G.M. line was Vedoro Green from ??? (Pontiac, Cadillac)

In the 70' Camaro (world) are you members aware of the Black/Stripe Delete COPO Z-28??

mockingbird812 03-15-2017 07:28 PM

Pontiac = V. Green

Lee Stewart 03-15-2017 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CamarosRus (Post 1345442)
What G.M. line was Vedoro Green from ??? (Pontiac, Cadillac)

Vedoro Green was a Pontiac color. First introduced in 1967

Lee Stewart 03-15-2017 07:56 PM

http://s26.postimg.org/sdrjh6iuh/image.jpg


https://www.mecum.com/lots/DA1116-27...rolet-nova-ss/

The Description says it's a Special Paint: A2 Orchid. I can't find that color code. Someone said it's a Caddy color while someone else said it's Plum Crazy - a Chrysler (Dodge) color.

??

Lee Stewart 03-15-2017 08:01 PM

http://s21.postimg.org/e5a2pe4o7/image.jpg


https://www.mecum.com/lots/FL0117-26...ch-1-fastback/

Lee Stewart 03-15-2017 08:11 PM

http://s26.postimg.org/wo67crnxl/image.jpg


http://blog.virginiaclassicmustang.c...in-purple.html

Lee Stewart 03-15-2017 08:13 PM

http://s26.postimg.org/nhnwphip5/1969_00008_01.jpg

Lee Stewart 03-15-2017 08:22 PM

http://s26.postimg.org/dye7w0v6x/DSC00460.jpg


1970 Boss 302 Special Order Paint: Light Gray Metallic, which is a 69 Lincoln and Thunderbird color.

1 of 64 SOP 1970 Boss 302s

http://www.boss302.com/paint.htm

Lee Stewart 03-15-2017 08:29 PM

http://s26.postimg.org/tl5h9e8yx/image.jpg


1970 442 - Special Order Paint: Regency Rose (was an exclusive color for the 1970 Toronado).

https://www.barrett-jackson.com/Even...LE-442--194147

PeteLeathersac 03-15-2017 08:30 PM

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Look to the Canada Paint charts for the Purple color as it was available here on Chevy/GMC trucks for 69/70.
I had a Purple '69 1/2 Ton Fleet in the 70's...first thing I did when I got home was paint it primer Gray.
Canada Trucks also had a Pink color available around the same era, Ice Coral?
Still lovin' that VG '68 Camaro posted above...who's the lucky one w/ this car now?
:beers:
~ Pete

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Lee Stewart 03-15-2017 08:36 PM

http://s26.postimg.org/euapbh4vd/image.jpg


This one always puzzled me . . . Rallye Green was an RPO color for the 1969 Camaro, Nova and Impala . . . but not for the Chevelle. Personally I think it looks fantastic.

Lee Stewart 03-15-2017 08:53 PM

http://s26.postimg.org/kjqxvsb1l/download.jpg


1970 GS 455 Convertible - Special Order Paint: Chateau Mauve Firemist (1 of 1)


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